New ECU Flash Option: DIY FLASHING

quietfears

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A word of advice to anyone installing the harness - the install is straightforward, and you don't need to tap any wires with the current harness that Flash Tune is sending. The harness now has a piggyback for what I assume is the ground wire. However, be very careful when inserting the pins from the harness into the ECU socket. I wasn't very careful when I was trying to get them to seat, and two of the wires broke off with the pins stuck in the socket. Digging the broken pins out and resoldering the wires to them was a real pain.
 

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Is anyone of the European Tenerists offering flash tune flashing services? Sending ECU to avc would cost an arm and a leg from here :(.
 

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Dant3 said:
Is anyone of the European Tenerists offering flash tune flashing services? Sending ECU to avc would cost an arm and a leg from here :(.
Hi Dant3

I think is also so terrible from your Neighbor Austria. ..... :'(
The shipping costs are very high. ::007::
The problem is if it does not work properly you have to send forth again. :question:
Were it not so expensive, I had the ECU has long been sent to AVC. ::26::
I know 4 Companies who flashing the ECU,but they are very expensive. ::007::

Greetz Nald >:D
 

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Nald, i guess our only option for now is ECU-Unleashed reseller in Poland, Off the Road or Diapason. Though i can't seem to find a link to Diapason flash on their site. ::010::
 

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Do all of the EU countries use the -50 config ECU?

Is shipping between the countries affordable?

ac
 

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avc8130 said:
Do all of the EU countries use the -50 config ECU?

Is shipping between the countries affordable?

ac
Hi ac

I do not know if all EU countries, the -50 ECU configuration use.
On my S10 I have to look up.
But I do not think that in European countries have different ECU configurations.
Between the continents yes.

Shipping between most countries in Europe, I think, 10 € ($ 14) to 20 € (27 $).

Greetz Nald >:D
 

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avc8130 said:
Do all of the EU countries use the -50 config ECU?
Hi.
Earlier in the tread i posted an image of my ECU - a 00 ECU from my 2011 S10. AfaIk the 00 ECU is for the 2010 and 2011 edition. The 2012 edition got a newer ECU - the -50. OTR (www.off-the-road.de) and ECUnleashed (www.ecunleashed.co.uk) can reflash both versions of the european ECU.

I have tried to find out if there is a difference between OTR and ECUnleashed, but so far the only thing I can find is that the ECUnleashed flash adjust the fuelling somewhat in the closed loop. For me the best solution would probably be the flash harness from Flash-Tune, but they don't support the 00 ECU yet. I might send them my ECU next fall, but due to global warming the spring is already here in Norway (+10 degrees centigrade and dry roads ::003::) and I must ride!

For europeans with -50 ECU - it is a no-brainer. www.flash-tune.com, harness + bench-kit and flash yourself and all your friends ;)


Regards,
J
 

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janusxx said:
Hi.
Earlier in the tread i posted an image of my ECU - a 00 ECU from my 2011 S10. AfaIk the 00 ECU is for the 2010 and 2011 edition. The 2012 edition got a newer ECU - the -50. OTR (www.off-the-road.de) and ECUnleashed (www.ecunleashed.co.uk) can reflash both versions of the european ECU.

I have tried to find out if there is a difference between OTR and ECUnleashed, but so far the only thing I can find is that the ECUnleashed flash adjust the fuelling somewhat in the closed loop. For me the best solution would probably be the flash harness from Flash-Tune, but they don't support the 00 ECU yet. I might send them my ECU next fall, but due to global warming the spring is already here in Norway (+10 degrees centigrade and dry roads ::003::) and I must ride!

For europeans with -50 ECU - it is a no-brainer. www.flash-tune.com, harness + bench-kit and flash yourself and all your friends ;)


Regards,
J
Flash Tune will never support the -00 ECU unless someone sends one to them to hack.

You do NOT need the bench harness to flash a single ECU.

ac
 

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Yes :) That is why I said "and all your friends" :)

Regarding sending my ECU to flash-tune - yes but I cant wait 4 weeks for the ECU now when spring is already hete. Maybe in october.

J
 

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I had some time yesterday and checked my ECU. It is also a 00. I have a 2010 euro model S10...
 

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Hi


Today I worked a bit on my S10 and looked to the ECU.
Mine had also an -00 ECU ..... and mine is a 2011 Modell of the S10
But the purchase date and first registration was 09/2012.

greetz Nald >:D
 

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I don't understand this re-flushing stuff? Please can someone explain why it is so important?
 

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Mzee said:
I don't understand this re-flushing stuff? Please can someone explain why it is so important?
Read the thread, do a quick search.

You will find there is a lot of potential locked away in the Tenere hidden inside its ECU that can be unlocked through re-programming.

ac
 

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Question 1: If we look at ETV decel S gear 6 in the Flash Tune program there is higher numbers in the unrestricted file compared to the stock file. Can anyone confirm that higher values means less engine breaking?

Question 2: When i compare ETV decel s 6th gear beetween stock and unrestricted without the compare function there is difference e.g 113 vs 118 at 8000.

When i use the compare function i cant see any difference in value as i select and uncheck, but i can see that the values that i know differs are framed.

When i compare percent it shows 0 percent difference?

Is this the way the compare function is supposed to work, or am i doing anything wrong?
 

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Roadster said:
Question 1: If we look at ETV decel S gear 6 in the Flash Tune program there is higher numbers in the unrestricted file compared to the stock file. Can anyone confirm that higher values means less engine breaking?

Question 2: When i compare ETV decel s 6th gear beetween stock and unrestricted without the compare function there is difference e.g 113 vs 118 at 8000.

When i use the compare function i cant see any difference in value as i select and uncheck, but i can see that the values that i know differs are framed.

When i compare percent it shows 0 percent difference?

Is this the way the compare function is supposed to work, or am i doing anything wrong?
Higher value = less engine braking.

It appears the compare function doesn't work in the ETV Decel fields. Send Chris/Kirk an email at Flash Tune.

ac
 

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Hi! Just registered for this topic, been reading this for a while with great interest and now waiting for my harness to arrive. I am looking at the program and checking out the files and I was wondering if anyone has shared any of their experiments? Would be interesting to see what people have accomplished even if it was not the most high performance top secret file, but even a failure would be interesting :)
 

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I don't really have a map to share but what I did was fairly simple. The throttle restrictions are all, or mostly in the first three gears. If you do the CJM mod you bypass most (but not all) of the throttle restrictions but pick up strange timing maps as AC first pointed out. They really don't look healthy in some areas. Take a look for yourself with your new SW.
So I just loaded the S Mode 5th gear (same as 6th) timing and throttle maps into the neutral map area. Very quick and easy to do with the Flash Tune SW. I have a switch for the CJM so now when I engage the switch, I get the 5th gear maps no mater what gear I am actually in. Those maps are even more aggressive than the neutral map and also have the good timing. They are very exciting in the lower gears! Close to a one to one throttle response. If you don't want to mess with the CJM, you could just try loading the 5th gear maps into ALL gears, If you don't like it you can quickly take it out. But I expect you would find it exciting! ???
As I noted before in other posts, there is only one set of fuel maps and they are used in every gear and every mode. The only thing I did to them was to lean out some areas based on the PC maps published here and other places. (your FT SW can import and read them) For example the PC maps ALL leaned out the 6000 rpm range for almost all throttle openings. So I leaned mine out about 50% of what they did just to be safe. But I really can't tell any difference from the fuel table changes. But I sure can for the throttle map changes!!! ::008:: So far I have left the S and T modes stock. If I want to play I go to SS mod. (CJM). The nice thing is that I can now go directly to SS mode ANY time I want. Even in the middle of an acceleration run just to compare the difference. And it is a big difference in the lower gears!
The only other thing I have done so far is lower the fan temp. Just for fun and for conformation that my changes actually went in.
Note: At first I had trouble getting the transfers to work. By trial and error I learned to turn the ignition on and back off TWICE before you transfer. I don't know why but that works every time. I was talking to the guru at Flash Tune about it and he said he had noticed the same thing. So if you have any problems, try the on/off twice thing.
Good luck, you are going to have fun! ::012::
 

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Quick advice:

1. Learn and use the software. Don't be scared to try things. The Tenere having 2 modes is excellent. Make all of your changes in 1 mode at a time. That will always leave the other mode in case something doesn't go as planned.
2. Realize this is an iterative process.
3. If you choose to experiment with engine braking, be careful with values over 120.

ac
 

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Thanks for the great practical tips! Maybe instead of Touring and Sport modes, I will call them Testing and Stable modes :) and first change I will make to the test mode is to lower fan temp so I can see that the changes actually go through.

And AVC you read my mind and answered the question I did not yet ask about the engine braking. I remember reading about some scary engine braking experiment, maybe that was you.

People have been reporting about the flash making the bike run smoother and fixing surging or off-idle stumble, do you know why would it fix it exactly? I have no idea what could cause it so obviously have no clue what I could try in the flash to fix it.
 
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