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GLADIATOR88

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Hello all... my 2012 Super T now has 40k miles and the Cam Chain Tension is making a racket at startup. I have the new 2014+ updated part with the new gaskets in hand. Was wondering if anyone knows of a video available for the install??

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Call me and I can walk you though it... I've done many of them... In my experience the 2014 was just as bad as my 12.. I then went over to a manual and never had another issue....
 

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I agree with Tabasco. Don't replace an acct @ 40k miles with another acct. Install a manual cct and be done with the drama.
 

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I have over 3 years remaining of YES. You can bet your ass I replaced mine with a updated '14 Yamaha CCT (covered under warranty also). If I put in a manual CCT and bike jumped time or any other top end issue I would be SOL. Manual CCT would void most engine warranty claims. And all Yamaha CCT's will get progressively noisier before failure so plenty of notice and time to replace.

But if my warranty was expired I would install a manual CCT when the automatic unit got noisy.

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If installing a manual CCT would void warranty, don't you think there is a good reason for having the OEM self-adjusting CCT? A manual CCT is cheaper and surely Yamaha would have installed this if their engineers thought it fit to do so. Just my thoughts.
 

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Juan said:
If installing a manual CCT would void warranty, don't you think there is a good reason for having the OEM self-adjusting CCT? A manual CCT is cheaper and surely Yamaha would have installed this if their engineers thought it fit to do so. Just my thoughts.
Whether a manual CCT is better or not is probably beside the point for Yamaha. I think for warranty purposes they wanted to avoid the claims that might result if owners neglected periodically adjusting them or if an over zealous owner adjusts it too tight. Yamaha probably figured using the automatic CCT was less risky for them.
 

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WJBertrand said:
Whether a manual CCT is better or not is probably beside the point for Yamaha. I think for warranty purposes they wanted to avoid the claims that might result if owners neglected periodically adjusting them or if an over zealous owner adjusts it too tight. Yamaha probably figured using the automatic CCT was less risky for them.
::026:: Exactly! Cannot rely on techies or customers getting the adjustment right, if at all.
 

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I already bought the graves manual Cct but have not installed yet. Do I have to definitely open the clutch case to ensure the chain won't slip??? Is there any other way of doing it without undoing the whole case?? Opening the the timing plug and aligning it at k point would be enough to avoid chain slipping?
I appreciate your answers and advice.

Nicolas
 

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No big deal to remove the clutch case and no big deal to change the cct. I made up a jack bolt instead of the tie wraps. I've used this method about three times now.



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I am going to bring to my buddy who is a mechanic today to replace my CCT. Ill be honest im a little worried it gets done properly. Hopefully Tabasco will give e a call and guide me. Its 1034am in NY. Going to my buddys shop at 12pm to rip into the bike. Wish us luck!!



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Call me and I can walk you though it... I've done many of them... In my experience the 2014 was just as bad as my 12.. I then went over to a manual and never had another issue....
 

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nicolasr said:
I already bought the graves manual Cct but have not installed yet. Do I have to definitely open the clutch case to ensure the chain won't slip??? Is there any other way of doing it without undoing the whole case?? Opening the the timing plug and aligning it at k point would be enough to avoid chain slipping?
I appreciate your answers and advice.

Nicolas
Do not remove the tensioner without taking steps to ensure the chain wont jump. There are a couple of different methods previously documented (Pauls jacking bolt or tye wiring the chain/guide together). Definitely the clutch cover has to come off. Does not necessarily require a new gasket. Or do it in conjunction with a valve check.
 

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I have cam chain tension out of bike... have a question.. if anyone knows how to do this install please give me a call asap... 631 740 0044

Mike
 

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nicolasr said:
I already bought the graves manual Cct but have not installed yet. Do I have to definitely open the clutch case to ensure the chain won't slip??? Is there any other way of doing it without undoing the whole case?? Opening the the timing plug and aligning it at k point would be enough to avoid chain slipping?
I appreciate your answers and advice.

Nicolas
I believe the safest way would be take the valve cover off and zip-tie the chain to the cams so when tension is released... timing is not lost. Be careful out there, people!
 

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BaldKnob said:
I believe the safest way would be take the valve cover off and zip-tie the chain to the cams so when tension is released... timing is not lost. Be careful out there, people!
Wast of time taking off the valve cover.
 

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limey said:
Wast of time taking off the valve cover.

. . . as long as tension is kept on the chain with your jack bolt or some other means. I was crude and just wedged wood in there for the last one.
 

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If you are installing a new auto tensioner, part of the procedure involves pushing the guide to contact the retracted tensioner to release it. That is tough to do without losing tension on the chain for a moment. When I did mine, it seemed like there was a point in engine rotation where the cam was not pulling on the chain, and the risk of jumping a tooth was minimal. At least I didn't have any problem in that regard.
 

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I am about to install the Graves manual CCT. The gas tank is retracted pivoting on the lower bolt and held back with a strap. The tensioner is blocked by the massive cluster of wires. Is there a method to moving this out of the way “gently” or just tough love?
 

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I am about to install the Graves manual CCT. The gas tank is retracted pivoting on the lower bolt and held back with a strap. The tensioner is blocked by the massive cluster of wires. Is there a method to moving this out of the way “gently” or just tough love?
I just installed the Graves CCT today. What I did with the cluster of wires was take a wire tie around the cluster and anchor it to a point on the throttle body to pull them out of the way. Then you have clear access to the CCT bolts and removing the OEM CCT. I used a jack bolt like what has been mentioned to keep tension on the chain. It was actually pretty easy and I re-used the clutch cover gasket. I probably could have used the old CCT gasket but I used a new one. The best part is no more dreaded chain rattle at cold start up and having piece of mind that the CCT is not going to fail and cause catastrophic damage.
 

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I just installed the Graves CCT today. What I did with the cluster of wires was take a wire tie around the cluster and anchor it to a point on the throttle body to pull them out of the way. Then you have clear access to the CCT bolts and removing the OEM CCT. I used a jack bolt like what has been mentioned to keep tension on the chain. It was actually pretty easy and I re-used the clutch cover gasket. I probably could have used the old CCT gasket but I used a new one. The best part is no more dreaded chain rattle at cold start up and having piece of mind that the CCT is not going to fail and cause catastrophic damage.
How did you go about getting the correct pressure on the chain?
 
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