I have a set coming and found these prices when researching the other day:
Michelin Anakee 3
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Just curious, ChecksWrecks...
Where did you find the info from Michelin stating that the H-rated Anakee 3's had a harder rubber compound than the V-rated ones?
Thanks!
Dallara
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Just curious, ChecksWrecks...
Where did you find the info from Michelin stating that the H-rated Anakee 3's had a harder rubber compound than the V-rated ones?
Thanks!
Dallara
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swampyvt
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After 400 miles on them I'm happy. They definitely ride nicer on the highway. And like stated above they are much better on a dirt road then I expected them to be. After riding NJ to Texas for the race I may have more info on mileage etc.
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I mounted these for Swampy. As with all Michelins, an absolute dream to mount and balance. Looked like a nice tire. I think I'll try it next once I burn through my old-school Tourances (non-EXP) on the trip to TX.swampyvt said:
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Dallara said:
Fair question & the answer is that I learned it from another company, then confirmed it a couple of times.
I've done a number of tire investigations for a long time, but in 2008 we worked real close with a tire company on a SC Learjet accident that resulted after loss of all four main tires. The runway is in the background and no tires = no brakes, plus they lost the engine reverser function. We collected a half mile of tire debris that became 4 jigsaw puzzles to figure out and be able to prove what happened. (low initial tire pressure)
The tire company makes a LOT of tires for all sorts of vehicles and we were in a development center with a lot of very experienced tire people. It was like a toy shop and class in one place and I was under the impression about H tires lasting longer so asked. (Since then seen the same on forums and this had nothing to do with airplanes.)
As explained originally about CAR tires, the higher ratings need to be able to stop faster and handle at higher speeds, hence the softer compound. I also found that the FMVSS 119 standards for motorcycles use similar environmental conditions that are imposed on cars. Since then, some highway investigators I know have said the same thing as what I heard at the tire company.
Checkswrecks said:Fair question & the answer is that I learned it from another company, then confirmed it a couple of times.
I've done a number of tire investigations for a long time, but in 2008 we worked real close with a tire company on a SC Learjet accident that resulted after loss of all four main tires. The runway is in the background and no tires = no brakes, plus they lost the engine reverser function. We collected a half mile of tire debris that became 4 jigsaw puzzles to figure out and be able to prove what happened. (low initial tire pressure)
The tire company makes a LOT of tires for all sorts of vehicles and we were in a development center with a lot of very experienced tire people. It was like a toy shop and class in one place and I was under the impression about H tires lasting longer so asked. (Since then seen the same on forums and this had nothing to do with airplanes.)
As explained originally about CAR tires, the higher ratings need to be able to stop faster and handle at higher speeds, hence the softer compound. I also found that the FMVSS 119 standards for motorcycles use similar environmental conditions that are imposed on cars. Since then, some highway investigators I know have said the same thing as what I heard at the tire company.
Great info to know. I appreciate the detailed answer.
Thanks! ::008::
Dallara
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Slightly odd commentary vid on Anakee 3 stability from Michelin (sounds like an old school health and safety vid)
MICHELIN ANAKEE III: Better Stability For Better Safety
MICHELIN ANAKEE III: Better Stability For Better Safety
Running the K60s and a weave is noticable at speeds over 80mph but can be induced at lower speeds by abrupt handlebar inputs. The bike always settles down but can be unnerving, to say the least. Looking forward to wearing these out and replacing with a set of A3's.
Thanks for the video very interesting. I have been waiting to get back here with my impressions of the Anakee 3 but it’s been so windy lately as I’m sure it would effect my perceptions of this tire. But this is what I think so far. Put 1K miles on them so far. They handle better off road then the Tourance exp’s . I don’t do much off road, but I did feel more stable with these tires. They also lean into a turn with ease, sometimes a little too much, I can over do it sometimes and have to adjust (or rider error).
Here’s the thing, I like these tires on road 0-95mph. Especially 45-75mph-I feel like I can whip the bike and play at will. However, when you start approaching the triple digits it feels less confident as oppose to the Tourance exp’s. I start to feel a little shimmy/lumpy in the front wheel. Now that could be the wind, but I don’t think so. Speaking of wind, this bike does not do well in the wind IMO. So now I have to see how they ware and hopefully not squaring off at 8K like the exp’s.
Here’s the thing, I like these tires on road 0-95mph. Especially 45-75mph-I feel like I can whip the bike and play at will. However, when you start approaching the triple digits it feels less confident as oppose to the Tourance exp’s. I start to feel a little shimmy/lumpy in the front wheel. Now that could be the wind, but I don’t think so. Speaking of wind, this bike does not do well in the wind IMO. So now I have to see how they ware and hopefully not squaring off at 8K like the exp’s.
swampyvt
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I just managed to take pictures of my tires. The Anakees shown have 6k on them. We just got back from the MotoGP in Austin by way of NJ, PA, MD, WV, VA, NC, SC, NC, SC, GA, AL, FL, AL, MS, LA, TX, OK, AR, MO, IL, KY, VA, WV, MD, PA, NJ. 
) The bike was loaded heavy for all of the miles ridden. Both panniers, a top box and a dry bag on the passenger seat were all full and definetaly overweight.
Impressions...
On road these tires feel much better than the Anakee 2s. Cornering at high speed in twisties is excellent. We were riding fast enough to feather the edges of the tires and at no point did it feel unstable. On the highway the tires are definitely a nicer ride. Rain performance was also excellent as I got caught in what I would consider "monsoon" weather. I also rode ~70 miles of dirt and gravel roads and they performed with no issues.
The tires look like they have a lot of miles left but only time will tell..
The front tire looks much more worn than the rear.
Rear.
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) The bike was loaded heavy for all of the miles ridden. Both panniers, a top box and a dry bag on the passenger seat were all full and definetaly overweight.Impressions...
On road these tires feel much better than the Anakee 2s. Cornering at high speed in twisties is excellent. We were riding fast enough to feather the edges of the tires and at no point did it feel unstable. On the highway the tires are definitely a nicer ride. Rain performance was also excellent as I got caught in what I would consider "monsoon" weather. I also rode ~70 miles of dirt and gravel roads and they performed with no issues.
The tires look like they have a lot of miles left but only time will tell..
The front tire looks much more worn than the rear.
Rear.
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What pressure are you running?
Any experience over 100 mph?
(The video was 131 mph/215+kph)
How was the dirt feel?
What I've read from the BMW GS-ers seems to indicate that the wider grooves is making these same as, or a bit better than, the A2s off road.
Thread on ADV:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849777&highlight=anakee&page=7
Any experience over 100 mph?
(The video was 131 mph/215+kph)
How was the dirt feel?
What I've read from the BMW GS-ers seems to indicate that the wider grooves is making these same as, or a bit better than, the A2s off road.
Thread on ADV:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849777&highlight=anakee&page=7
swampyvt
Member
I ran 36 f 42 r.
I hit 125 indicated a few times passing and it felt solid. I hit 105 much more and with no issues.
The dirt felt better than my 2s. Never had a problem hooking up.
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I hit 125 indicated a few times passing and it felt solid. I hit 105 much more and with no issues.
The dirt felt better than my 2s. Never had a problem hooking up.
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I find it interesting that the front tire is wearing that much quicker than the rear tire.