You do understand that a sharp poke in the ribs generally causes a person to exhale. And that person would be looking at you. At that distance, a mask is not going to be much help for what could be spread all over your face.
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SHUMBA
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Hatter, you sound like the type of guy who wouldn't get too close to other people.
Besides, a firearm won't protect you from the virus.
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WJBertrand
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SHUMBA, besides the obvious assault complications, wouldn't poking or tripping someone in the ribs require you to be closer than 6ft, thereby contradicting and discrediting your entire point?
Are you sure they are not Chinese ?
You cant know who has had it if you haven't tested. Its pure guesswork .
SHUMBA
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In London we have groups of people who dont even believe there is a virus. Secondly we have groups of people who will be told by people of religion not to get vaccinated, usually its put to them that its an American ploy to make them impotent or something like that. I honestly laugh in the face of anyone who thinks a vaccine will be our savior. A vaccine is as good as the number of people given it and history tells us how problematic that is.
SHUMBA
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Oh yes, the anti vaxers...a group of total nutters. But you would be amazed at how many there are. I know a couple, older people who are anti vaxers, but she is beyond wierd.
In addition, we have large communities of Ahmish people who live in rural areas and mostly keep to themselves. However, they think nothing of entering a food store or any other stores. Also, when they need to go to the hospital, they will sit in the emergency department close to others.
JMHO
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Got rain coming down in buckets here , over 6 inches this morning . Washing off all the exposed surfaces outdoors. Can’t hurt.
Madhatter
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Central Texas is known as flash flood alley. There will be rescues today , all most certain. People don’t learn even about that.
If/when a vaccine is available, I will most definitely get it. Will it be 100%?, nope, but even at 70%, it is better than nothing, and life will get a little more like it was.
I have no sympathy for anyone that has the opportunity to get the vaccine, and does not. They get sick, oh well, so sorry, life is a b**ch. It is interesting all the conspiracy theories, religious theories....etc. I respect them to a certain degree, as long as it does not impact an innocent person, but don't come crying when things go sideways.
I'll definitely get the vaccine but at my daughters' suggestion I'll probably wait a month or so. Let somebody else be the guinea pigs, especially if it is developed in another part of the world with very different demographics.
Having been falsely accused of being part of some, I have zero sympathy for people who believe in conspiracies or propagate them. For instance, the people who allege all sorts of wacky ideas about the Pentagon on 9-11.
For a little humor in this thread, the wackiest was after a Cessna freight hauler like this crashed near Mobile AL in 2002.
After the crash our Regional guy recovered nearly everything from the bay. Seems to me that radar records showed a tight steep spiral, indicating loss of control, and for a Cessna 208 to be this spread means that he was going pretty fast. The horizontal spread of debris implied the pilot had some level of control near the end.
The way the original regional investigator wrote the report had phrases spread in various sections and in summary was something like the airplane had been flying at (iirc) 3,000 ft altitude before the crash, there were red marks on some pieces of wreckage, and an black object stuck in a wing (or words to that effect). Pretty boring factual material buried in a report with lots and lots of other words. Regional investigators always were over-stretched and he put the cause down as being unidentified. The factual portion of his report went through review and was released. No big deal so far, right?
Hidden in those phrases, a word search would pop out "unidentified" and "flying" and "object" if you are a UFO hunter, so that proved beyond a doubt (to them) that we must have been covering up good ol' ET having collided with the Cessna!!! Now I don't have a problem believing that aliens may exist, especially with the Navy F-18 videos recently released, but the thought that little green men would go undetected in that airspace (LOTS of air traffic and military radar of all types) AND somehow be dumb enough to collide with a slow moving freight hauler was a stretch.
The Director asked me to re-open the investigation and see if we could get a better idea about what happened. Things were going fine till I made the mistake of using the FBI and Air Force labs for specialized exams our lab didn't have equipment for, rather than paying a commercial lab. (The NTSB has a small budget and is part of inter-agency help agreements so we'd use outside labs for FTIR, GCMS, etc.) Well, the involvement of the FBI and military sealed the deal both for the alien hunters PLUS turned on another group of conspiracy types. Now I/we were being accused of supposedly helping the military cover up a military drone running down the poor freight pilot. Another theory was that maybe he collided with a drug smuggler and the other airplane got away, so we were covering that up for law enforcement. https://www.perdurabo10.net/nightship-282.html
Ya can't make this sh1t up.
In the end, turned out that the Cessna pilot was between layers of low clouds when a DC-10 passed by at an angle with all the lights on. That kind of surprise is definitely attention-getting and happened just before the Cessna pilot told air traffic he'd lost control. Putting the pieces together revealed that when he hit the water the Cessna pilot had just about recovered the airplane from a steep spiral and was nearly wings level which let the airspeed build up when he ran out of altitude. Another couple of hundred feet and he probably would have made it. The red marks on the fuselage were matched to the paint of the tow bar which was kept in a belly pod and the odd piece of black metal was part of a cooling fin from one of the avionics boxes.
Thanks CW, I can relate. My father was LAFD from 1968 until 1999. When I was taking my TV classes in college, he and I would talk about the media coverage of some of the incidents he responded to, and he said that if they had not said the address, he would not have known he was there!
On another note, there are reports this morning that the companies that have been successful with their employees working remotely will most likely continue to do so after the pandemic has subsided. This will have huge impacts on commercial real estate as well as tax bases, since large companies with a mostly remote workforce will not need huge headquarter buildings.
I know I have focused on the economic fallout of this pandemic, since that is what has impacted me personally and professionally. I see the push to re-open the economy coming from a place of "economic desperation"; sure there are those outlier individuals that will believe any kooky conspiracy theory about this virus, but for the most part I see people with nothing left in the bank needing to get back to work to support their families. The unemployment systems are still overwhelmed, with the official unemployment rate at nearly 15%. I believe it may be closer to double that number, since there are 57 million self-employed people in this country. 12 million people work in the live events industry alone, and I know nearly all of us are out of work, and we have a large percentage of self-employed. These economic times are making the Great Recession of 2008 look like a speed bump, and will easily rival the Great Depression. Our economy is not going "bounce back" simply because we are open for business. Look at the businesses permanently closing due to the virus, and the numbers of jobs that will cost. This is going to take us years to recover from.
On another note, there are reports this morning that the companies that have been successful with their employees working remotely will most likely continue to do so after the pandemic has subsided. This will have huge impacts on commercial real estate as well as tax bases, since large companies with a mostly remote workforce will not need huge headquarter buildings.
I know I have focused on the economic fallout of this pandemic, since that is what has impacted me personally and professionally. I see the push to re-open the economy coming from a place of "economic desperation"; sure there are those outlier individuals that will believe any kooky conspiracy theory about this virus, but for the most part I see people with nothing left in the bank needing to get back to work to support their families. The unemployment systems are still overwhelmed, with the official unemployment rate at nearly 15%. I believe it may be closer to double that number, since there are 57 million self-employed people in this country. 12 million people work in the live events industry alone, and I know nearly all of us are out of work, and we have a large percentage of self-employed. These economic times are making the Great Recession of 2008 look like a speed bump, and will easily rival the Great Depression. Our economy is not going "bounce back" simply because we are open for business. Look at the businesses permanently closing due to the virus, and the numbers of jobs that will cost. This is going to take us years to recover from.
One of the helicopters, a MD500E, that I flew for a law enforcement agency was painted a dark brown. If you were more than 20' away from it, it looked black. Oh did we have fun with all the "black" government helicopter theorists.I'll definitely get the vaccine but at my daughters' suggestion I'll probably wait a month or so. Let somebody else be the guinea pigs, especially if it is developed in another part of the world with very different demographics.
Having been falsely accused of being part of some, I have zero sympathy for people who believe in conspiracies or propagate them. For instance, the people who allege all sorts of wacky ideas about the Pentagon on 9-11.
For a little humor in this thread, the wackiest was after a Cessna freight hauler like this crashed near Mobile AL in 2002.
After the crash our Regional guy recovered nearly everything from the bay. Seems to me that radar records showed a tight steep spiral, indicating loss of control, and for a Cessna 208 to be this spread means that he was going pretty fast. The horizontal spread of debris implied the pilot had some level of control near the end.
The way the original regional investigator wrote the report had phrases spread in various sections and in summary was something like the airplane had been flying at (iirc) 3,000 ft altitude before the crash, there were red marks on some pieces of wreckage, and an black object stuck in a wing (or words to that effect). Pretty boring factual material buried in a report with lots and lots of other words. Regional investigators always were over-stretched and he put the cause down as being unidentified. The factual portion of his report went through review and was released. No big deal so far, right?
Hidden in those phrases, a word search would pop out "unidentified" and "flying" and "object" if you are a UFO hunter, so that proved beyond a doubt (to them) that we must have been covering up good ol' ET having collided with the Cessna!!! Now I don't have a problem believing that aliens may exist, especially with the Navy F-18 videos recently released, but the thought that little green men would go undetected in that airspace (LOTS of air traffic and military radar of all types) AND somehow be dumb enough to collide with a slow moving freight hauler was a stretch.
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The Director asked me to re-open the investigation and see if we could get a better idea about what happened. Things were going fine till I made the mistake of using the FBI and Air Force labs for specialized exams our lab didn't have equipment for, rather than paying a commercial lab. (The NTSB has a small budget and is part of inter-agency help agreements so we'd use outside labs for FTIR, GCMS, etc.) Well, the involvement of the FBI and military sealed the deal both for the alien hunters PLUS turned on another group of conspiracy types. Now I/we were being accused of supposedly helping the military cover up a military drone running down the poor freight pilot. Another theory was that maybe he collided with a drug smuggler and the other airplane got away, so we were covering that up for law enforcement. https://www.perdurabo10.net/nightship-282.html
Ya can't make this sh1t up.
In the end, turned out that the Cessna pilot was between layers of low clouds when a DC-10 passed by at an angle with all the lights on. That kind of surprise is definitely attention-getting and happened just before the Cessna pilot told air traffic he'd lost control. Putting the pieces together revealed that when he hit the water the Cessna pilot had just about recovered the airplane from a steep spiral and was nearly wings level which let the airspeed build up when he ran out of altitude. Another couple of hundred feet and he probably would have made it. The red marks on the fuselage were matched to the paint of the tow bar which was kept in a belly pod and the odd piece of black metal was part of a cooling fin from one of the avionics boxes.
My marine biologist daughter has also been saying to wait and see on the first vaccine's.
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Damn, if that was 3000 agl, that's a hell of a lot of altitude to lose from just being momentarily surprised.
I suspect aliens had something to do with it.
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Your statistics do not tell the whole story. They are only confirmed cases. The US is one of the top leading countries in testing and results right now so we have the most cases. Other countries not shown are not taking the testing serious enough. We have no way of knowing what the true numbers are. Your chart also does not show the per capita number. So the numbers you are posting are very skewed.You've got the assault posts, a bit about rain, you've got the apparently hilarious plane crash stories and then you have the corona virus.
Back on topic, eh lads? If that's ok.
The current corona virus top ten as at 15th May 2020. Drum roll........
I've heard reports from a lecturn that the curve is flattening, but even when I squint I can't make that out, but who knows. Maybe the curve is flattening, maybe not. Could be. FLAT. Depends which way you lean. That's not political. That's STAT-is-TICS, statistics.
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OX-34 a country woman of yours arrived back in Australia from Summit county in Colorado (skiing) and tested positive for Covid 19. Her friends stayed back in Colorado and were asked to self quarantine, they went skiing the next day. Summit county infections drove up the infection and mortality rate in Colorado. I guess that was a way of thanking the fire fighters that went over to Australia during your natural catastrophe this past fire season down under. People are people...I have never heard any more about your countrymen or any hate directed down under.
No one gets your point. Seek help..............ugh!
No one gets your point. Seek help..............ugh!
WJBertrand
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Wonder what those numbers look like as a percentage of the population?You've got the assault posts, a bit about rain, you've got the apparently hilarious plane crash stories and then you have the corona virus.
Back on topic, eh lads? If that's ok.
The current corona virus top ten as at 15th May 2020. Drum roll........
I've heard reports from a lecturn that the curve is flattening, but even when I squint I can't make that out, but who knows. Maybe the curve is flattening, maybe not. Could be. FLAT. Depends which way you lean. That's not political. That's STAT-is-TICS, statistics.
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