It's time for an update Yamaha.

[Longdog Cymru]

Think that's bad, just wait till a new ST1300 comes out!

Do you mean the Honda ST1300 Pan European? It’s been around for years!

 

[tallpaul]

If Yamaha updated the engine to a triple, and added more whiz-bang electronics, and chopped the weight down, and invested a whole lot of money into other changes, then I doubt they'd call the bike a "Super Tenere", since it would basically be a new bike. I don't think they'd want to saddle the new bike with the name of an old bike that, in all reality, probably hasn't been a big seller for Yamaha.

My guess is that Yamaha has made just enough money on the S10 to keep it in production, but not enough to make it worthwhile to do a lot of upgrading. The popularity of the S10's little brother probably makes it even less likely that you'll see any changes to the Super Tenere.

They could call it something catchy, like Tracer. Oh, they already have one!

 

[Boris]

25-30kgs less, 20-25bhp more and general refresh and I’d be happier. The updated, modern electronics are a given these days. Triple would be a massive bonus on a Super Tenere.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Hill start assist that doesn't work and cannot be shut off.

That sounds horrible. I experienced my hill hold once. That sucker got shut off as soon as that ride ended. Probably good for a new rider, but as an old timer, I could not tolerate it.

 

[Don T]

The T12 have been due for an update for at least a couple of years.

A funny thing here in Denmark is, that the T12 have sold better than ever before since the T7 came out last year.

When the update happens, I hope it includes a refined/improved version of the already great 1199 ccm twin engine. I find the character of the CP3 engine unsuited for off tarmac excursiones.

Less weight would be welcome.

 

[STenitus]

Do you mean the Honda ST1300 Pan European? It’s been around for years!

Yes and despite the ridiculous, engine-to-rider heat transfer, the bike is awesome and has a loyal following. An update might be as "good" as the 18+ GW.

 

[twinrider]

On my wish list would be less weight, more power, an IMU for lean ABS and factory LED headlights.

Yet every time I ride the S10 it does everything I need and it's reliable as an anvil. Already sorted out the motor with a flash and decat, the headlights with HID and a better seat. Happy I don't need to drop 15K on a new bike and plan to keep it for the foreseeable future.

 

[Longdog Cymru]

Yes and despite the ridiculous, engine-to-rider heat transfer, the bike is awesome and has a loyal following. An update might be as "good" as the 18+ GW.

I owned two ST1300s over an 9 year period, they are lovely bikes and hide their weight well once moving and, I think, they were at least as good as the FJR Yamaha.

 

[twinrider]

I owned two ST1300s over an 9 year period, they are lovely bikes and hide their weight well once moving and, I think, they were at least as good as the FJR Yamaha.

They suffered from Honda's strange preference for not putting cruise control on its touring bikes or updating them. The FJR was updated numerous times and eventually got cruise control, electronic suspension, LED lighting and so on. The ST1300 remained the same throughout its run. Shame because the V4 is a great motor. Honda did the same with its VFR1200X.

 

[Sierra1]

The ST1300 would be my choice for around town riding due to it's lighter steering. The FJR would be my choice for higher speeds, and twisty roads due to it's steering. More and more LE agencies were trading in their Beemers on the ST. Then Honda turned the ST into the CTX, an odd imitation of a HD bagger. Now, they have the CTX 700, and dropped the 1300. I still haven't seen the "new" 'Wing. . . . or either CTX in the wild.

I really liked the ST1300 I rode, with the exception of the 120mph speed limiter. I understand that there were questions on it's high speed stability, but, I read that it was traced down to an electronic message board mounted to the rear of the UK units. I still think the Tenere would make an outstanding LE bike.

 

[LJM]

IMO, forget the tech & anybody who wants 160HP ADV bike can go buy a Ducati or a KTM. I think the market needs diversity & from the recent globalization KTM will probably be making Yamaha's in the near future they already ate Husky & GasGas both are bikes I've owned and really enjoyed now I couldn't see buying one, next dirt bike will be a Beta or KTM.
Back to the ST update, loose some weight, keep focus on simplicitIy, reliability, suspension, quality parts & I would defiantly buy another one. A few years ago I owned a tech happy 150hp ADV bike & hated it. Now I'm looking for my next bike I test rode a high tech 2020 160hp ADV bike a few weeks ago & wasn't impressed at all rode home on the ST very happy.

 

[lund]

Personally i like the S10 basically as is, there are plenty of other bikes out there to satisfy the need of other taste.
If you start changing everything then its no longer a Super Tenere and its reputation no longer applies. Some people like my self purchased the S10 based on its reputation and not so much the gadgets, i had a gadget 2 wheeler GS, its now gone thank goodness.
There is always room for improvement but a fine line in a complete make over were its no longer the same bike.
I would like to see small changes, like better performance mods, abs deactivation capable and adventure ready. Like out of the box bike protection installed. The only big change i would like is a complete revamped on the OEM panniers.
I do agree on LED lighting but i have no issues with the current lighting. Remember the S10 is an adventure bike and the more fancy you make it the more $$$$ it will cost when you drop it on your adventure plus when your out on an adventure good luck being able to fix it if it in the field when it goes down with so much fancy chit on it. Simplicity is what i like about the Super T.
Yamaha's Super Tenere is the real deal in ADV motorcycles in every way for world travel. Some of your need to take heed of the famous KLR 650 as a ADV bike, yes old in tech but probably the #1 chosen world traveler because its simple and reliable and cheap to own.
The last thing we want is to become like the BMW GS, expensive and problematic, then turned back when it goes down cause no shop can work on it other then a BMW dealer.

 

[sjh]

I'd be happy with a 1000cc T7 with a shaft drive, cruise + traction control, and more of a premium fit & finish - the rest is either a liability waiting to hurt your wallet, bells/whistles that i'll prob forget, or OEM farkles I'd rather change for 3rd party versions anyway.

 

[Scoop47501]

That sounds horrible. I experienced my hill hold once. That sucker got shut off as soon as that ride ended. Probably good for a new rider, but as an old timer, I could not tolerate it.

Don't believe all the hater comments on the new Goldwing. The hill asset problem is uncommon and it's the light that has stuck on in those cases. You do not have to use it at all if you prefer. I have a 2018 Goldwing along with my Tenere and it has been flawless . All the other issues listed are also uncommon.

 

[sky4]

yup get rid of the crazy twin cylinder engine, better headlights , better gearing, better paint job, it will be interesting.

What's the beef with the twin? I think it's a perfect adv engine.

 

[sky4]

Personally i like the S10 basically as is, there are plenty of other bikes out there to satisfy the need of other taste.
If you start changing everything then its no longer a Super Tenere and its reputation no longer applies. Some people like my self purchased the S10 based on its reputation and not so much the gadgets, i had a gadget 2 wheeler GS, its now gone thank goodness.
There is always room for improvement but a fine line in a complete make over were its no longer the same bike.
I would like to see small changes, like better performance mods, abs deactivation capable and adventure ready. Like out of the box bike protection installed. The only big change i would like is a complete revamped on the OEM panniers.
I do agree on LED lighting but i have no issues with the current lighting. Remember the S10 is an adventure bike and the more fancy you make it the more $$$$ it will cost when you drop it on your adventure plus when your out on an adventure good luck being able to fix it if it in the field when it goes down with so much fancy chit on it. Simplicity is what i like about the Super T.
Yamaha's Super Tenere is the real deal in ADV motorcycles in every way for world travel. Some of your need to take heed of the famous KLR 650 as a ADV bike, yes old in tech but probably the #1 chosen world traveler because its simple and reliable and cheap to own.
The last thing we want is to become like the BMW GS, expensive and problematic, then turned back when it goes down cause no shop can work on it other then a BMW dealer.

Few updates on a long production run also means better aftermarket, and better oem parts availability both new and used.

The super t is a great place to start. Customize as needed, the bones of it are solid.

 

[Sierra1]

Personally i like the S10 basically as is, . . . . If you start changing everything then its no longer a Super Tenere . . . . Remember the S10 is an adventure bike and the more fancy you make it the more $$$$ it will cost . . . .take heed of the famous KLR 650 as a ADV bike, yes old in tech but probably the #1 chosen world traveler because its simple and reliable and cheap to own.
The last thing we want is to become like the BMW GS, . . . .

Absolutely my thoughts too. I get that everybody has their personal preferences. I've never been the fastest, strongest, or smartest. . . . and I don't need my bike to be. I did show up to work everyday. . . . and I expect my bike to also.

I'd be happy with a 1000cc T7 with a shaft drive, cruise . . . .

If my naming hypothesis is correct. . . . that would be called the T10. It also should also silence the power junkies. They switched the FJ from chain to shaft with the FJR, so it's not like that's unheard of.

"I yam what I yam, and that's all that I yam. . . ." -- Popeye

 

[Arkyrider]

Don't believe all the hater comments on the new Goldwing. The hill asset problem is uncommon and it's the light that has stuck on in those cases. You do not have to use it at all if you prefer. I have a 2018 Goldwing along with my Tenere and it has been flawless . All the other issues listed are also uncommon.

Agree. I also have a 2018 GW.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Yamaha can skip the hill hold feature on the updated Tenere. It's not for experienced riders. I doubt there are many first time riders starting off on a Tenere.

 

[RonH]

Skip things that can't be repaired. Hill start assist, DCT, adaptive ABS, headlights ect, ect, and most any other wonderful "upgrades" most lust for. Mechanics are at a complete loss at even beginning to understand and work on the 2018-up GL1800. Think years down the road. Is it really worth it? You guys that think the 2018 GL1800 is an upgrade, you are in a heap of agony. Maybe not today, but soon. I would hate the Super Tenere to ever be upgraded along even remotely similar to ideas that Honda thought was worthwhile.
I was in the repair industry for 34yrs, so some of my bad attitude comes from 34yrs of agony on some of these "updates" everyone expects constantly.