Is the GS1250 the reason?

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I’m at an age where my dealer relationship matters. I like the local Yammy dealer, but If they also sold Katooms, I’d likely be on an orange bike. But really, these are mostly idle dreams. All the things that I loved about my S10 are still there. It’s the old “want more” or “need more” conundrum for me.
 

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I’m at an age where my dealer relationship matters. I like the local Yammy dealer, but If they also sold Katooms, I’d likely be on an orange bike. But really, these are mostly idle dreams. All the things that I loved about my S10 are still there. It’s the old “want more” or “need more” conundrum for me.
We are on the same boat!
 

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I believe anyone who gets hung up on the flavor of the day or current trend when it comes to ADVENTURE motorcycles is truly not an adventure rider. I say this because the S10 is pure blooded, exactly that, an ADVENTURE motorcycle built to take the shit.
#1 priority should be the adventure first then the motorcycle.
Owning an adventure motorcycle of any brand and using it as a pavement queen fits many and in that case BMW is a sweet motorcycle topping the charts in gadgetry and symbolism of the latest and greatest, maybe that you? Just like a Harley in "BIKER" status for some.
Hanging out with your buddies at a local bar or watering hole like typical HD riders is nothing more then a testosterone contest with little worries of reliability.
For BMW riders it will be at the MOTORRAD dealer more then the adventure if truly used as an adventurer. EVER dropped a GS or GSA, better put a protective bubble around it, those gadgets work wonders after that. LOL
Getting all wound up on gadgets the vintage and what your current motorcycle has and has not compared to others is like looking over the fence to check out the greener grass instead of actually being out there adventuring and enjoying the ride.
My thought has been, don't try to fit your self to the motorcycle according to what is trending or popular but fit the motorcycle to your needs.
A vast majority of riders out there don't know how too or never use the gadgetry on these bikes, but hey its a conversation thing.
I personally prefer talking about the scares on a bike that give's the bike its personality from an adventure then some techy riding aid. Just learn to ride its more fun.
If the bike fits the need get off the fence and go ride your adventure. If the need has changed, ditch the bike and find one that fits your needs. Even if a shammi dust wiping is all it will ever get, powerwash is overrated anyways LOL.
 

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Here is something to think about.
If your having to come to a YAMAHA SUPER TENERE forum to ask the question, who are you trying to convince, the S10 riders out there or your self.
If I was in that position, here would not be the the place to ask such question.
Maybe your asking because you know the answer already and just need the confirmation that the S10 is the bike.
Yes there are some on this forum who claim neutral, maybe former S10 riders. Maybe they are regretting the decision or miss the camaraderie of this forum "Tenere".
Or they are just confused and forget that this is a Yamaha Tenere forum.
Did you try the BMW GS forum on that question, if so I wonder how many said "stick with the S10".
 

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I believe anyone who gets hung up on the flavor of the day or current trend when it comes to ADVENTURE motorcycles is truly not an adventure rider. I say this because the S10 is pure blooded, exactly that, an ADVENTURE motorcycle built to take the shit.
#1 priority should be the adventure first then the motorcycle.
Owning an adventure motorcycle of any brand and using it as a pavement queen fits many and in that case BMW is a sweet motorcycle topping the charts in gadgetry and symbolism of the latest and greatest, maybe that you? Just like a Harley in "BIKER" status for some.
Hanging out with your buddies at a local bar or watering hole like typical HD riders is nothing more then a testosterone contest with little worries of reliability.
For BMW riders it will be at the MOTORRAD dealer more then the adventure if truly used as an adventurer. EVER dropped a GS or GSA, better put a protective bubble around it, those gadgets work wonders after that. LOL
Getting all wound up on gadgets the vintage and what your current motorcycle has and has not compared to others is like looking over the fence to check out the greener grass instead of actually being out there adventuring and enjoying the ride.
My thought has been, don't try to fit your self to the motorcycle according to what is trending or popular but fit the motorcycle to your needs.
A vast majority of riders out there don't know how too or never use the gadgetry on these bikes, but hey its a conversation thing.
I personally prefer talking about the scares on a bike that give's the bike its personality from an adventure then some techy riding aid. Just learn to ride its more fun.
If the bike fits the need get off the fence and go ride your adventure. If the need has changed, ditch the bike and find one that fits your needs. Even if a shammi dust wiping is all it will ever get, powerwash is overrated anyways LOL.
I think you just closed the debate in an awesome manner. Bravo! Very well said and very well articulated!
 

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Here is something to think about.
If your having to come to a YAMAHA SUPER TENERE forum to ask the question, who are you trying to convince, the S10 riders out there or your self.
If I was in that position, here would not be the the place to ask such question.
Maybe your asking because you know the answer already and just need the confirmation that the S10 is the bike.
Yes there are some on this forum who claim neutral, maybe former S10 riders. Maybe they are regretting the decision or miss the camaraderie of this forum "Tenere".
Or they are just confused and forget that this is a Yamaha Tenere forum.
Did you try the BMW GS forum on that question, if so I wonder how many said "stick with the S10".
Initially it was to ask those who already did the move to share their views as they would have had a better perspective. I am not member in a BMW forum
 

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This is a summary to close the debate. Please hear what he said at the end which is in line with what @lund indicated.

Enjoy your adventures!!!!

 

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Hi,

My apologies for the title. I was wondering if anyone recently moved from an S10 to a GS1250...what is it like as a change? Regrets? Happier? Both?
I still own my 2012 one but not sure if it us time to change....kind of happy with it...the reason why I thought about change us that suddenly I felt old! People are talking about TFT screens, integrated GPS stuff, shifterpro, hill descent control (?), 7 modes of riding (Street, highway, sport, enduro, enduro pro, dynamic etc..), dynamic suspension control, you have now even the record of the degree of your cornering and bike inclinaison, variable valve stuff...and of course this is only about the bike...I add to it gears such as 700 usd boots, 1200 usd dedicated adventure suit, 300 usd gloves, 1000 usd gps unit that you can control from the handlerbar buttons (how you look for a new POI while driving???) Etc...

I ride my 2012, with a nuvi 760 gps that never made me upgrade, I ride on my leather jacket and AA rated jeans even on offroad and never felt the need for something else...I do keep a raincover in my topcase just in case...and I do have a signet Q helmet that I use everywhere because of the long oval head shape that limits my choices...

Anyway just wanted to share the above in case I am getting too old or too outdated or too out of the today's riding community...

Cheers
I don't own one but have ridden all the modern big bore ADVs including the latest 1250 GSA. I also had the opportunity to acquire a very lightly used, FULLY loaded, pristine 2019 GS, for a steal of a deal (friend to friend sale). I asked myself my go to question: "Would I take it for free?" Totally appropriate since I was almost getting it for free (!) The answer was no due to 1) the high tech laden features and 2) the dealership "tethering". I ultimately didn't want anymore tech to deal with on the wide open (and fire) roads, than what the Super Tenere ES offered. I do my own wrenching for quality assurance and cost savings so the dealership relationship was not going to work for me.

If those two things are not an issue for you, I'd go for it and try the GS or GSA life because the bike is simply AMAZING in so many ways! Especially the 1250. Comfortable, super nimble, strong and fun!!

Wishing you the best whatever you decide! :)
 

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I don't own one but have ridden all the modern big bore ADVs including the latest 1250 GSA. I also had the opportunity to acquire a very lightly used, FULLY loaded, pristine 2019 GS, for a steal of a deal (friend to friend sale). I asked myself my go to question: "Would I take it for free?" Totally appropriate since I was almost getting it for free (!) The answer was no due to 1) the high tech laden features and 2) the dealership "tethering". I ultimately didn't want anymore tech to deal with on the wide open (and fire) roads, than what the Super Tenere ES offered. I do my own wrenching for quality assurance and cost savings so the dealership relationship was not going to work for me.

If those two things are not an issue for you, I'd go for it and try the GS or GSA life because the bike is simply AMAZING in so many ways! Especially the 1250. Comfortable, super nimble, strong and fun!!

Wishing you the best whatever you decide! :)
Thanks for your wishes. I ended up keeping my trusted 2012...we have been together through so many s**** roads and I can't think of a better "buddy" to have me riding...also, focusing more of the adventure itself while.optimizing some of the gears such as compact tent, gopro mount to record the memories etc...
 

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'04 R1150RT-P, Seven years and 60k+ miles. Loved it . . . . and then hated it. But you're right, if a person is going to talk shit about anything . . . . it had better be from personal experience(s).
Just purchased a 2004 R1150RT with 22,000. It was priced right......I don't want to hate it, however it is a one owner but no service history. Would you have the 24,000 big service were it your machine? I'm conflicted because I have a 1996 Gold Wing and a 2013 Tenere I treasure for their dependability.

I have no desire for a GS. The Tenere does everything I need, economically.
 
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Just purchased a 2004 R1150RT with 22,000. It was priced right......I don't want to hate it, however it is a one owner but no service history. . . .
At that mileage, mine was still perfect. And, yours might stay perfect. The power brake servos were a known issue, but I never had any problems with them. They're not all crap, and a lot of them remain great. If that big service is required, you'd probably better do it. Good luck.
 

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At that mileage, mine was still perfect. And, yours might stay perfect. The power brake servos were a known issue, but I never had any problems with them. They're not all crap, and a lot of them remain great. If that big service is required, you'd probably better do it. Good luck.
Did you have any suspension issues? Its a lot of fun to ride. I am talking to a mechanic this morning. Going to put a long two day ride in, then decide how I will proceed.
I've ridden over 50 years and except for some early Harleys and one previous BMW have never had mechanical issues nor been tethered to a dealership.

A motorcycle should be economical in my opinion, We are lucky as consumers that the market offers dependable, reliable motorcycles. Thanks for the response.
 

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Did you have any suspension issues? Its a lot of fun to ride. I am talking to a mechanic this morning. Going to put a long two day ride in, then decide how I will proceed.
I've ridden over 50 years and except for some early Harleys and one previous BMW have never had mechanical issues nor been tethered to a dealership.

A motorcycle should be economical in my opinion, We are lucky as consumers that the market offers dependable, reliable motorcycles. Thanks for the response.
No suspension issues.

I'll have to disagree about bikes being economical. The only financial advantage a bike provides is better fuel mileage. Everything else, such as tires, oil, and required service is more expensive than a car.

I'll have a bike as long as I can physically ride, but it's not because it's saving me money.
 
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