Is the GS1250 the reason?

[Streethawk]

every 1,000 - 1,500 miles I clean the chain,

Wow man! I know I'm too obsessive for that long an interval! Lol! Probably bringing too much of my past aircraft maintenance approach to my two wheeled vehicle maintenance! Ha ha! Great life you're getting out of your chains though! I clean and lube mine every 400-500 miles (using a free trip meter to track it). I also de-gunk the front sprocket area every other cleaning. Slack adjustment and check alignment is done about every 1000-1500 miles. The chain alignment tool is the star of the show there

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . I clean and lube mine every 400-500 miles (using a free trip meter to track it). . . .

At first that sound crazy frequent: every other fill-up. I used to lube, but not clean, about once a month. Then I thought . . . . and every 400-500 miles is every other fill-up, and about once a month.

 

[HeliMark]

Wow man! I know I'm too obsessive for that long an interval! Lol! Probably bringing too much of my past aircraft maintenance approach to my two wheeled vehicle maintenance! Ha ha! Great life you're getting out of your chains though! I clean and lube mine every 400-500 miles (using a free trip meter to track it). I also de-gunk the front sprocket area every other cleaning. Slack adjustment and check alignment is done about every 1000-1500 miles. The chain alignment tool is the star of the show there

I use a spray can of wax lube (Dupont) for the chain that I get from Walmart. Unless it is caked in mud, the pressure spray gets rid of most if not all of the dirt. Don't do an alignment on the chain, doesn't call for it in the manual.

 

[Purificator81]

That describes the OEM limitations, particularly for gen1, more than a reflash which removes all those limitations. My own personal experience is that Touring mode is a less sluggish and more powerful feeling than before the flash. It has a more conservative ramp up than sport is all. Hard to imagine any loss of torque.


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You got me ready for a flash... will ask around if it is available in my neck of of wood

 

[Streethawk]

I use a spray can of wax lube (Dupont) for the chain that I get from Walmart. Unless it is caked in mud, the pressure spray gets rid of most if not all of the dirt. Don't do an alignment on the chain, doesn't call for it in the manual.

I use the same stuff ("Chainsaver" by DuPont in the yellow can). Love it! I also use their "Chain & Sprocket Degreaser" first to clean (in the red can and also at Walmart). Beyond impressed with both products!

As for chain alignment, same here regarding it not being covered by my manual. I learned on a weekend ride cut short (and around the track day paddock) about the disparity that can be present with the adjustment hash marks on the swingarm. On my Versys 650, the marks are off by about 1.75 marks (!) Never had that problem before but it definitely caused early chain replacement. Implemented the chain alignment tool; zero issues since. Forum research revealed that it's a known issue with that particular swingarm too. The supersports and superbikes I've worked on however, have been pretty accurate though.

Some good info on chain alignment here:
How To Check Your Wheel Alignment - MC Garage

 

[Dirt_Dad]

When I went to my Tiger, I was a little concerned on the additional maintenance with the chain, as the last number of bikes I have owned were shafts. With the current modern chains, like what @Dirt_Dad has said, it really isn't much of a concern. I currently have 33K miles on my Tiger with the original chain. Everything is within spec, although with needing new tires and a valve check coming up, I will be putting on a new chain (and sprockets) because of the mileage on it.

The only additional maintenance I do, is about every 1,000 - 1,500 miles I clean the chain, and after every ride I put the bike on the center stand and spray the chain with some lube. Chain has only needed to be adjusted three times.

1,000 to 1,500...boy, would my chains be happier in your garage rather than mine. I'm confident I'm no where near that frequency. Oiler keeps 'em lubed, I probably wipe off the dirt with a paper towel every few months. I know I suck at chain maintenance, so I just change them out at the 18K service. Yes, it's too soon, but I don't want to think about it. So when the valves get done, go ahead and change out the chain sprocket set. Return to abusing them.

 

[HeliMark]

I use the same stuff ("Chainsaver" by DuPont in the yellow can). Love it! I also use their "Chain & Sprocket Degreaser" first to clean (in the red can and also at Walmart). Beyond impressed with both products!

As for chain alignment, same here regarding it not being covered by my manual. I learned on a weekend ride cut short (and around the track day paddock) about the disparity that can be present with the adjustment hash marks on the swingarm. On my Versys 650, the marks are off by about 1.75 marks (!) Never had that problem before but it definitely caused early chain replacement. Implemented the chain alignment tool; zero issues since. Forum research revealed that it's a known issue with that particular swingarm too. The supersports and superbikes I've worked on however, have been pretty accurate though.

Some good info on chain alignment here:
How To Check Your Wheel Alignment - MC Garage

The red and yellow cans are good. Picked up several extra cans as it has been a little scarce lately at Walmart.

I misunderstood you on the alignment, I do use a metal ruler to make sure the axle is the same on both sides of the swingarm. Don't trust those marks they have.

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[HeliMark]

1,000 to 1,500...boy, would my chains be happier in your garage rather than mine. I'm confident I'm no where near that frequency. Oiler keeps 'em lubed, I probably wipe off the dirt with a paper towel every few months. I know I suck at chain maintenance, so I just change them out at the 18K service. Yes, it's too soon, but I don't want to think about it. So when the valves get done, go ahead and change out the chain sprocket set. Return to abusing them.

Figured I am on borrowed time with the chain.

Okay, back to the original thread. Imagine how much more reliable the 1250, or the new 1300 would be with a chain.

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[Purificator81]

Figured I am on borrowed time with the chain.

Okay, back to the original thread. Imagine how much more reliable the 1250, or the new 1300 would be with a chain.

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As I think I know them, when they put the chain to increase reliability, they will put cam shift in the engine to bring it down again....they can't help themselves...

 

[HeliMark]

As I think I know them, when they put the chain to increase reliability, they will put cam shift in the engine to bring it down again....they can't help themselves...

Well, they do have a pretty reliable record of within 3-4 months of a new model hitting the streets, of having a recall and/or stop sale...

 

[Purificator81]

An update since then....my 2013 S10 is still in the garage since 2014...everytime I try to remember my trips, I get the memories about the remote places I went to...I don't even think about how the bike performed or which brand I was riding...but more of the places and people I met in trips that were more of an escape from modern life to embrace the simplicity, purity and zenitude...
I am not riding a S10...I am riding a two wheels motorcycke with one wheel in the present and the other one in the future...

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[scott123007]

An update since then....my 2013 S10 is still in the garage since 2014...everytime I try to remember my trips, I get the memories about the remote places I went to...I don't even think about how the bike performed or which brand I was riding...but more of the places and people I met in trips that were more of an escape from modern life to embrace the simplicity, purity and zenitude...
I am not riding a S10...I am riding a two wheels motorcycke with one wheel in the present and the other one in the future...

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I want what you're smokin'

 

[Purificator81]

I want what you're smokin'

Just breathe slowly and deeply, relax and enjoy simply the existence...this will take away the bells and whistles in every aspects of your life including bikes

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[My Tenere]

I have both bikes.
simply, you traveling in the same plane, but if you choose to set in economy class (S10) or business or first class (BMW R1250 GS ADV).both class of traveling will get you there.
For me, I used S10 for short trips/raids were the 1250 GS ADV for longer raids and trips.
there are some other factors to be considered for example
is it worth to pay more for your hoppy? considering the cost for other activities you are doing for fun!
Security! You can not park the Beemer in less secured Parkin. were S10 is less attractive for theft ( I believe)
And some other factors based on your perspective

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . were S10 is less attractive . . . .

Well, that was just mean. I'm not going to mine you said that.

 

[Purificator81]

I have both bikes.
simply, you traveling in the same plane, but if you choose to set in economy class (S10) or business or first class (BMW R1250 GS ADV).both class of traveling will get you there.
For me, I used S10 for short trips/raids were the 1250 GS ADV for longer raids and trips.
there are some other factors to be considered for example
is it worth to pay more for your hoppy? considering the cost for other activities you are doing for fun!
Security! You can not park the Beemer in less secured Parkin. were S10 is less attractive for theft ( I believe)
And some other factors based on your perspective

Economy vs Business/First class is not really accurate in my case. The riding position for me was exactly the same and I measured the distance between the handlebar and the seat, the seat and the footpegs and they were identical safe of 1/4 of an inch...furthermore, the analogy is also no accurate when focusing on arriving to destination because it was more about the journey in terms of exploration, meeting remote communities in the mountains etc...so that you actually don't focus on what you are riding and the bells and whistles...the marketing buzz and the over sophisticated products to convince you that you adventure will be much better is not really accurate...

I agree with the safety for parking...no one cared about the S10 and GS owners were filling their bikes with GPS, alarm, locking both wheels and almost sleeping next to the bike...

I am not preaching for or against any of the two bikes...for everyone's own liking...my point is that the experience of adventure should be beyond the bike....this would have been another story for other categories where the focus is totally different

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