Honda Africa Twin Specs Leaked

[TheHelios]

http://www.africatwinforum.com/forum/113-honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-general-discussion-forum/1114-honda-portugal-leaks-africa-twin-specs.html#post7458

 

[Dogdaze]

Oh yes!! Finally, and DCT to boot!
I love it, "Honda Leaked Specs", no they didn't! It was controlled from the very beginning, why do jornos think the general public are living under a rock?

 

[0012]

Wow, it is pretty heavy!

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[528Hz]

Oh yes!! Finally, and DCT to boot!
I love it, "Honda Leaked Specs", no they didn't! It was controlled from the very beginning, why do jornos think the general public are living under a rock?

because quite a few still do live under the rock without realizing that almost every aspect of this system is controlled charade, money, wars, weather, media, religion and so on. And even when exposed, participants must act as if nothing happened.

 

[greg the pole]

so 460lb dry. 500lb fuelled? 93 hp (nothing to write home about)

it will probably not be the game changer that honda hopes it to be.
Still roughly 80lb lighter than the yammie.

Would be good to see it in person. either way I reserve judgment till then

 

[Dogdaze]

so 460lb dry. 500lb fuelled? 93 hp (nothing to write home about)

it will probably not be the game changer that honda hopes it to be.
Still roughly 80lb lighter than the yammie.

Would be good to see it in person. either way I reserve judgment till then

I do believe, as someone pointed out, that the 92-93hp was a strategic move by Honda to allow for it to be restricted for new or learner riders and fall within the scope of the law and capture sales from that category, I'm sure they are being conservative with their claims. If you think about it, 998cc and only 93hp? Nah, something's not kosher. As for the weight, well a heavy 1000 lump is going to weigh a fair bit and then the frame to carry that said lump. The DCT appeals to me, the chain........not so much.

 

[greg the pole]

good point.
so it will be easily tuned.
Just like you, i'm not crazy about the chain. DCT I could take or leave. NOthing wrong with a clutch.

 

[Bushyar15]

Here's the "Confirmed" info on it….

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-specs/

Doesn't say if the weight is wet or dry.

 

[Dogdaze]

Here's the "Confirmed" info on it….

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-specs/

Doesn't say if the weight is wet or dry.

"The new Honda CRF1000L Africa Twin is powered by a 94 hp 998cc parallel twin engine and weighs 503 lbs 'wet' in the non-ABS/DCT version."

Still a little high on the price, then saw it was in Euro's, so at today's rate of exchange not too bad. I just don't know manufacturers restrict colours to different region ::010::

Not all of Europeans love black bikes, (I have one now, not my first choice) as I'm sure not all US riders want their given choices, are we children that we must be given only two choices, otherwise we'll sit there all day at the dealer deciding what colour matches or handbags...... ?????

 

[scott123007]

Here's the "Confirmed" info on it….

http://www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/honda-crf1000l-africa-twin-specs/

Doesn't say if the weight is wet or dry.

Right under the first picture of the article YOU linked, it says 503 "wet" and I don't think that meant going through that water crossing

 

[Bryce]

so 460lb dry. 500lb fuelled? 93 hp (nothing to write home about)

it will probably not be the game changer that honda hopes it to be.
Still roughly 80lb lighter than the yammie.

Would be good to see it in person. either way I reserve judgment till then

I think all along the game changer has been DCT, not weight or anything else.

 

[Spaggy]

18.8 liter fuel tank and chain drive. So far I'm liking my Tenere.

 

[BravoBravo]

18.8 liter fuel tank and chain drive. So far I'm liking my Tenere.

::026::

Also, it has tube tires. I think the last time I owned a motorcycle with tube tires, Richard Nixon was president. ;D

-Bruce

 

[Dogdaze]

18.8 liter fuel tank and chain drive. So far I'm liking my Tenere.

I think the fuel economy will be much better on the AT than the S10, so the capacity would be a moot point, the chain, although much better these days, I'm with you on that.

 

[Dogdaze]

::026::

Also, it has tube tires. I think the last time I owned a motorcycle with tube tires, Richard Nixon was president. ;D

-Bruce

I think, and I may be wrong on this, but it allows much more varied type of tyre, really motox type stuff, serious offroading and allow for bent rims etc when out in the wilderness to be 'tubed' and keep going. This is pure speculation on my part.................. I'm bored, what can I say?

 

[squarebore]

I think the fuel economy will be much better on the AT than the S10, so the capacity would be a moot point, the chain, although much better these days, I'm with you on that.

I don't think the chain is that much of an issue anymore. A friend on a tiger 1050 sport just hit 60k kms on an original chain and probably had three adjustments. I prefer the shaft drive as well, but a chain is no big issue and does save some weight.

 

[BravoBravo]

I think, and I may be wrong on this, but it allows much more varied type of tyre, really motox type stuff, serious offroading and allow for bent rims etc when out in the wilderness to be 'tubed' and keep going. This is pure speculation on my part.................. I'm bored, what can I say?

You are probably right. ::008:: I can't imagine Honda would have gone this route without some pretty sound reasoning behind the decision. Personally, I am not planning any rides across the Kalahari Desert, so it is academic to me...

-Bruce

 

[Bushyar15]

I believe tubes allow you to run a lower tire pressure for off-road use.

I find it interesting as we look at this from the perspective of how we use our S10s. For me I want a more dirt worthy ADV bike. Meaning lighter weight and more capable like the KTM.

I'm on the fence about the chain, but it does weigh less and I've not read about any real pervasive issues with chains on the KTMs. It will be interesting to see when it gets here!

 

[Dogdaze]

I'm on the fence about the chain, but it does weigh less and I've not read about any real pervasive issues with chains on the KTMs. It will be interesting to see when it gets here!

Depends on how you intend to use the bike, chain on a hwy would mean lubing every 600m +/-, but in dirt the chain would wear much quicker. On the plus side, does allow for sprocket and therefore gearing change.........

On another site I used to frequent, there was a guy that only ever lubed his chain, never ever cleaned it and lasted 35-50k miles...

 

[EricV]

A lot just depends on the market it's being sold in. I'd love a 1000cc, 500 lb bike to replace my wife's F650GS2. I'd even accept chain, but for our mostly touring riding, the tube tires are not something I'd accept. Sure there are some conversion possibilities, but I fix a flat on the road in ~10 minutes with tubeless tires, I have no real desire to take a step backwards and deal with tubes. Interstate travel speeds take their toll on chains, even properly lubricated. She sometimes makes it to 20k miles on a chain, but not always. The early ATs had shaft drive, but I suspect racers wanted chain for the ease of gearing changes.

At this point we'll pick up a couple of XT250s or maybe a WR250R and use those for the day rides off/on pavement.