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Defekticon said:
I found with the adventure high bars I was able to get rid of my rox risers. I can't say I'd recommend running them both together unless you have shorter arms than I do.... My dress shirt size for ref is 18 1/2 neck, 32-33 arm. I don't wear dress shirts very often because of that.
What is the difference in handlebar height between Rox Risers and Stock bars vs Stock mount and EVO Adventure High bars.

Can you provide a photo of the Controls mounted on the EVO Adventure High bars? I am concerned with the control space 190 mm vs 240 mm.
 

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I have a 2015 S10 and based on the pro taper site I don't see how all the crap will fit on the adventure high bar grip space. Could someone please prove me wrong with a picture because I really want these bars.

Thanks much.

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My new bars have me stumped

i am new to the S10 and I am trying to replace the handlebars. I bought a ProTaper Contour Raptor bar and I am trying to take apart my stock bars on the bike (a 2016). I can't get the weights off of the end of the stock bars. I do not have grip heaters. I have changed bars on my KLR and my KLX without issue but I am at a standstill on the S10.
Ideas/suggestions?
Mikey
 

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AZ Mike said:
My new bars have me stumped

i am new to the S10 and I am trying to replace the handlebars. I bought a ProTaper Contour Raptor bar and I am trying to take apart my stock bars on the bike (a 2016). I can't get the weights off of the end of the stock bars. I do not have grip heaters. I have changed bars on my KLR and my KLX without issue but I am at a standstill on the S10.
Ideas/suggestions?
Mikey
The Gen1 and Gen 2 handlebars are different. What year is your Tenere?
 

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Thanks for the responses. My S10 is a 2016 and the bar end weights screw in. So now I have that figured out, I need to figure out how to remount the bar ends on the new bars (protaper contour Raptors). I think I can thread the inside of the bars and screw the ends back in. it's supposed to rain today and tonight so it should be a good day to work on Popeye, my Tenere.
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AZ Mike said:
My new bars have me stumped

i am new to the S10 and I am trying to replace the handlebars. I bought a ProTaper Contour Raptor bar and I am trying to take apart my stock bars on the bike (a 2016). I can't get the weights off of the end of the stock bars. I do not have grip heaters. I have changed bars on my KLR and my KLX without issue but I am at a standstill on the S10.
Ideas/suggestions?
Mikey
MSR 340355
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1FGUR_enUS724US724&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=MSR+340355&*

See if this works for you. I used them on my 2012 with the ProTaper Contour Raptor handlebars. BTW the Raptor bars are very close to the same design as the Gen1 KLR bars.

edit: I replaced the bolt with a longer stainless steel bolt. Don't remember the measurements.
 

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Great you got the ends off , now after you install the new bars are the brake lines tight on turns ? I put extended Bk lines on .. Got them from Jaxon @ RideonAdv . I found what I was looking for... M16x1.5mm TAP and the hole should be 14.7mm or 35/64'' for the weights, some Pro taper bars can be taped with no drilling . Now the tabs on the controls some people grind off but I drilled little pilot holes , sute you self. Good luck
 

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tomatocity said:
What is the difference in handlebar height between Rox Risers and Stock bars vs Stock mount and EVO Adventure High bars.

Can you provide a photo of the Controls mounted on the EVO Adventure High bars? I am concerned with the control space 190 mm vs 240 mm.
Sorry I missed this post last year. I came back to this thread to re-read it and actually talk about chopping down my bars and reducing the control space even further. I'm finding that after just a few minute of riding my right arm/hand/wrist/shoulder going numb. Now, I do have problems with my Shoulder and elbow. In fact I'm pretty jacked up on that arm after turning wrenches and playing sports. I need surgery to move my ulnar nerve, but I'm pretty much just pushing it off because it's expensive and I can't have the downtime at work.

I've realized that when I ride my KTM and XT250 I have absolutely no problems with my right arm. It was the same way with my KLR 650. And I'm trying to think of ways to really get this problem solved for good. I may try the raptor protaper bars and chop them down. Or stick with the ADV High bars and just chop an inch and half off.

I have broad shoulders, but abnormally short arms which prevents me from keeping my elbows bent in the riding position. It just generally puts a lot of pressure on the wrong nerves when holding the throttle.

Current setup:
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I just installed Pro-Taper Adventure high bars. I don't think there's anything that hasn't been covered already in this thread, but to congeal it into one post for someone considering these bars:


Clutch and brake lines: I had longer lines from Jaxon to accommodate 2" Rox risers. The ADV high bars seem like they'll adjust anywhere in their range with them. I don't think I'd want to install the ADV high bars with stock brake and clutch lines.


Compared to 2" Rox risers with stock bars: mostly overlap: except for extreme placement of the Rox (like maybe risers rolled all the forward, then bars rolled forward in the risers), the Pro-Taper bars will be able to get there... or close enough. The height feels nearly identical to me.


Room for controls: The controls fit with the stock bar-end weights installed. The stock bar-end weights have about 1/2" long bar-diameter section on the inboard side before the enlarged "ball" on the outboard end starts (into which the handguards screw). I tried installing all the controls without the bar ends and it's somewhere between tight and impossible - the lever and mirror perches are so far inboard that they land on the first bend. Having that extra 1/2" on the bar-end weight to move everything outwards is the deal-maker. IOW, I'm not sure aftermarket bar-ends would allow all the controls to fit if they installed flush to the ends of the Pro-Taper bar.


Tapping stock bar ends: (as already stated) M16 x 1.5mm thread. I ordered one from Fastenal and picked it up next day for about $20. If I were able to find a hardened bolt in that size, I would've probably tried grinding a notch in it and using it as a tap. Tapping was not dramatic, altho there's clear a surprising amount of chips. Blowing compressed air thru the bars helps clear the chips. If anyone in central FL is planning on doing this, I'd be happy to share the tap.


The feel: very similar to the 2" Rox + stock bars. The sweep is a little different, I think an improvement, but they still have more sweep than dirt-bike bars. The greater bend length makes them feel noticeably more flexible than the stock arrangement. To me this feels worse, but maybe it makes them more crash-worthy or something.


Random notes: the switch housing on the left has two screws holding the housing together on the bar, but inside there's a clamp with two screws which need to backed off to get the housing off the stock bars. I think all the control housings (left switch, right kill switch, and throttle cable housing) have a plastic nub which engages holes drilled into the bars. This means you have get enough slack to get the nub backed out of the hole before the housings will come off. It also means the nubs need to be cut/ground/filed/sanded off before they can be installed on the new bars. The nubs will prevent the housings from seating on the new bars.
 

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steve68steve said:
Room for controls: The controls fit with the stock bar-end weights installed. The stock bar-end weights have about 1/2" long bar-diameter section on the inboard side before the enlarged "ball" on the outboard end starts (into which the handguards screw). I tried installing all the controls without the bar ends and it's somewhere between tight and impossible - the lever and mirror perches are so far inboard that they land on the first bend. Having that extra 1/2" on the bar-end weight to move everything outwards is the deal-maker. IOW, I'm not sure aftermarket bar-ends would allow all the controls to fit if they installed flush to the ends of the Pro-Taper bar.
Good write up. I also have the ADV High bars. I installed the barkbusters. They have bar end weights and bar end inserts that do work with the protaper bars, and they also work with the same threading as the stock bar end weights.

Handle bars are fascinating to me, how such minor changes in sweep and pull back make a huge difference in how long I can comfortably ride.
 

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Andylaser said:
Love the comparisons, can you do one with the FJ-09 bars?
Speaking of, anybody have the measurements for the FJ-09/Tracer bar? Beginning to think about swapping bars on my Tenere and would like to know where the FJ bar fits in with all of the aftermarket options.
 

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TwinsFTW said:
Speaking of, anybody have the measurements for the FJ-09/Tracer bar? Beginning to think about swapping bars on my Tenere and would like to know where the FJ bar fits in with all of the aftermarket options.
I'm ordering the FJ09 handlebars tomorrow. I believe they're on backorder until late October. I sat on an FJ for the hell of it at the dealership and loved its bars, almost no sweep. The S10 bars are brutal on my hands. If you'd like the handlebar part number along with the necessary hardware to reinstall the stock weights and guards let me know.
 

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AZPI said:
I'm ordering the FJ09 handlebars tomorrow. I believe they're on backorder until late October. I sat on an FJ for the hell of it at the dealership and loved its bars, almost no sweep. The S10 bars are brutal on my hands. If you'd like the handlebar part number along with the necessary hardware to reinstall the stock weights and guards let me know.
Why can't you post that information? I'm interested.
 

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TwinsFTW said:
Speaking of, anybody have the measurements for the FJ-09/Tracer bar? Beginning to think about swapping bars on my Tenere and would like to know where the FJ bar fits in with all of the aftermarket options.
OP and author of the spreadsheet here. I'm happy to add in data on specific bars if someone sends it to me. The best way to do that is to PM me - I don't always get thread updates. Just send me all of the data points you have that are listed in the spreadsheet and I'll update it. I found my data on various parts websites and compiled it. It probably took me 3 or 4 hours one evening back in my Vstrom days when I decided the stockers were killing my shoulders. It shouldn't take you too long to hunt down one or two bars worth of data.

Cheers.
 

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Morning everyone. My first official post other than the intro.
I've used the ProTaper Evo Adventure bars on several bikes I have and love em. That said, , I just brought home a 012 S10. Stock bars etc. I have a pair of 2" rox risers and am contemplating installing these w/the stock bars. This would give me the adequate rise for comfortable standing(I'm 6'3"). Cable/hose length is the consideration here. ?, can I reroute the brake/clutch and related behind the steering head versus the stock forward routes. The simplest way to go is preferred here.
Thanks for the help, , G, in Vegas. ::008::
 

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I have a 2017 S10. I use two inch ROX risers and an aftermarket seat. I can adjust them fully forward and backwards and all cable lines clear easily. I am concerned if I can use the existing ROX Risers with new handlebars or will it require conversion bolts to the new handlebar fit?

I am having a terrible problem with SORE wrists on even shorts rides and I am also in pain between the shoulder blades. I have read about this issue on NUMEROUS message threads. The solutions tends to be changing the handlebars with less sweep. However, I am not able to find a detailed listing of all the parts and steps needed to change the stock bars using the existing ROX Risers to either a ProTaper Contour Raptors or FJ09 handlebar.
 
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