ECUnleashed Gen2 - RESULTS ONLY

[Yzhogman]

Just a follow up for anyone in Canada that may have been considering using Synmoto in Richmond BC to do their flash. After several attempts I was never able to get anyone there to respond to an email so I just gave up and sent my ecu to af1 last week (not back yet). Zuan had good luck with them but maybe they've decided it's not for them. Would have been nice to get a response even if it were to that effect.

 

[erenet]

Same here, Synmoto never answered the phone, responded to my voice mail or replied to my email.

 

[nwrider]

Well, I received my reflashed ECU from AF1 yesterday. I have the GEN I T-mode and the GEN II S-mode programs. It was late in the afternoon, so I only went about 30 miles. My initial impression is that the T-mode definitely has more power available than stock with no hesitation upon initial throttle opening and very smooth on/off transition. Sport mode is OMG. Feels like the engine picked up another 40 HP. Throttle transitions are much more abrupt and the reduction in compression braking is noticeable to me. If I'm aggressively riding in the Sport mode, the abrupt throttle transition is less noticeable. However, if in Sport mode and just motoring along, it's annoying. It might be helped by adding a bit of drag on the throttle with a light "O" ring on the grip/bar end weight junction. I'll know more after a planned 200+ mile ride tomorrow.

UPDATE: Before the ride yesterday I removed all of the free play from the throttle. That helped the on off throttle control in sport mode so that it's no longer an issue. The 275 mile ride up the Columbia River Gorge to Lyle on Hwy 14 then up the Klickitat River to Glenwood, BZ Corners and return is always a great ride with fall colors and views of Mt. Adams andMt. Hood lots of good pavement and twisty roads. I have to say that the GEN I T-Mode (AlsoRan described it well as a cross between the original T-mode and the Sport mode but closer to Sport in power) is near perfect for almost all of my riding. It may be my imagination, but I think there's a bit more overall vibration than before. However, I'm extremely happy with the hybrid Gen I/GenII flash.

 

[Yamaguy55]

Well, I received my reflashed ECU from AF1 yesterday. I have the GEN I T-mode and the GEN II S-mode programs. It was late in the afternoon, so I only went about 30 miles. My initial impression is that the T-mode definitely has more power available than stock with no hesitation upon initial throttle opening and very smooth on/off transition. Sport mode is OMG. Feels like the engine picked up another 40 HP. Throttle transitions are much more abrupt and the reduction in compression braking is noticeable to me. If I'm aggressively riding in the Sport mode, the abrupt throttle transition is less noticeable. However, if in Sport mode and just motoring along, it's annoying. It might be helped by adding a bit of drag on the throttle with a light "O" ring on the grip/bar end weight junction. I'll know more after a planned 200+ mile ride tomorrow.

UPDATE: Before the ride yesterday I removed all of the free play from the throttle. That helped the on off throttle control in sport mode so that it's no longer an issue. The 275 mile ride up the Columbia River Gorge to Lyle on Hwy 14 then up the Klickitat River to Glenwood, BZ Corners and return is always a great ride with fall colors and views of Mt. Adams andMt. Hood lots of good pavement and twisty roads. I have to say that the GEN I T-Mode (AlsoRan described it well as a cross between the original T-mode and the Sport mode but closer to Sport in power) is near perfect for almost all of my riding. It may be my imagination, but I think there's a bit more overall vibration than before. However, I'm extremely happy with the hybrid Gen I/GenII flash.

That sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. Someone makes an aluminum throttle tube with an altered ratio so you don't have the on-off thing. Sorry, but I forget who it is right now. Thanks for the info.

 

[Rasher]

I have started to use the T- mode now, never felt the need, but recently have been doing some commuting in really heavy traffic and spending a lot of time stopping and starting and riding really slowly, the T-Mode is handy for this - but still damn sluggish - as soon as the road clears the slightest bit I am back to S Mode ::26:: but at least I have found a use for T Mode now ::008::

 

[Dallara]

That sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. Someone makes an aluminum throttle tube with an altered ratio so you don't have the on-off thing. Sorry, but I forget who it is right now. Thanks for the info.

G2 Ergonomics - http://www.g2ergo.com/store/g2-street-tamer-throttle-tube/

I don't use one - I like the ECUnleashed Gen 2 throttle response - but I know other people who have used G2 throttle tubes and swear by 'em.

Just FYI...

Dallara



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[avc8130]

Wow...why not return the ECU to the flasher and let them tame the throttle? I assume ECU-U should be able to since FT can.

With the Flash Tune harness I have been all over the map with crazy throttles. I can easily make the bike a handful to ride with a hit in the throttle like a YZ80 coming on the pipe. I can also make the throttle so boring you can fall asleep riding.

My current S mode throttle map is quite aggressive with a very sharp response and is WOT on the throttle bodies at 80% on the wrist. I LOVE it for being a jackass on the street and I like it on gravel roads as I can instantly spin the wheel and roost.

My T mode is just the stock "s" map from 5th gear for every gear. Pretty much a standard 1:1 throttle at all rpms.

The overall adjust-ability is excellent and really easy to understand in the software to me.

ac

 

[twinrider]

I don't use one - I like the ECUnleashed Gen 2 throttle response

Me too, I don't find it twitchy at all. But then again, people said the same thing about the VFR800's throttle response when it was first released in 1998 and I thought that was fine too...

 

[AlsoRan]

Well, I received my reflashed ECU from AF1 yesterday. I have the GEN I T-mode and the GEN II S-mode programs. It was late in the afternoon, so I only went about 30 miles. My initial impression is that the T-mode definitely has more power available than stock with no hesitation upon initial throttle opening and very smooth on/off transition. Sport mode is OMG. Feels like the engine picked up another 40 HP. Throttle transitions are much more abrupt and the reduction in compression braking is noticeable to me. If I'm aggressively riding in the Sport mode, the abrupt throttle transition is less noticeable. However, if in Sport mode and just motoring along, it's annoying. It might be helped by adding a bit of drag on the throttle with a light "O" ring on the grip/bar end weight junction. I'll know more after a planned 200+ mile ride tomorrow.

UPDATE: Before the ride yesterday I removed all of the free play from the throttle. That helped the on off throttle control in sport mode so that it's no longer an issue. The 275 mile ride up the Columbia River Gorge to Lyle on Hwy 14 then up the Klickitat River to Glenwood, BZ Corners and return is always a great ride with fall colors and views of Mt. Adams andMt. Hood lots of good pavement and twisty roads. I have to say that the GEN I T-Mode (AlsoRan described it well as a cross between the original T-mode and the Sport mode but closer to Sport in power) is near perfect for almost all of my riding. It may be my imagination, but I think there's a bit more overall vibration than before. However, I'm extremely happy with the hybrid Gen I/GenII flash.

I have about 800 miles on the Gen-1 (T) / Gen-2 (S) program and I'm very happy with the performance as well. Being a "T moder", I really struggled with the decision to give up the Gen-1 mapping which offered great T mode performance. I bought into the hype and got the Gen-2 "upgrade" thinking that T would remain the same and found out that was not the case. Instant drop in performance. So I tried to go back and they could not do it. I asked if they could do a hybrid map which they were able to do and it has worked out very well. Good overall performance with strong pull but not the sharp response. Have good power down in the lower RPM's and all the way through the range. Less shifting for sure, just roll the throttle and plenty of usable power. Better T mode now than ever now so no need for sport mode for 99% of the kind of riding that I do.

 

[fredz43]

I have about 800 miles on the Gen-1 (T) / Gen-2 (S) program and I'm very happy with the performance as well. Being a "T moder", I really struggled with the decision to give up the Gen-1 mapping which offered great T mode performance. I bought into the hype and got the Gen-2 "upgrade" thinking that T would remain the same and found out that was not the case. Instant drop in performance. So I tried to go back and they could not do it. I asked if they could do a hybrid map which they were able to do and it has worked out very well. Good overall performance with strong pull but not the sharp response. Have good power down in the lower RPM's and all the way through the range. Less shifting for sure, just roll the throttle and plenty of usable power. Better T mode now than ever now so no need for sport mode for 99% of the kind of riding that I do.

So, did ECUnleashed do that custom flash for you for free as they did with the Gen 2 upgrade?

Thanks.

 

[MoFarkle]

Apologies if this has been answered, but... Are there recommendations for a minimum mileage before you start playing with the power? I'm already convinced enough to pay for the re-flash but I have only put 1200miles on my s10 so far. Should I have it run in more? say 5k miles?

Thanks

 

[snakebitten]

Honestly, the bike could have and should have come from Yamaha running this way. I'm pretty sure that the reason it doesn't has nothing to do with reliability.

I also don't believe the guys at places like ECUunleashed are smarter and better at engine tuning than the engineers at Yamaha. Instead, they simply are immune from the many obstacles that the OEM isn't.

So if you feel like flashing your S10 is warranted, no reason to wait. Lucky you. I had 22,000 miles on mine before the flash was easily available.

 

[Firefight911]

Holy ECU flash!!!!!! This thing is ridculous with the flash.

There is no embellishment or over statement of just how good this flash is on our S10s. Allow me to push you over the fence if you are wondering if it's worth it. IT IS!!!! Do it!!!!

I way under estimated how much improvement it made on the bike. It seems to have improved every single area on the ride envelope.

I am beyond impressed!! This should be the second thing anyone/everyone does on this bike. Suspension first, ECU flash second! Period! It is that good!!!!

 

[Chequeneglia]

Honestly, the bike could have and should have come from Yamaha running this way. I'm pretty sure that the reason it doesn't has nothing to do with reliability.

I also don't believe the guys at places like ECUunleashed are smarter and better at engine tuning than the engineers at Yamaha. Instead, they simply are immune from the many obstacles that the OEM isn't.

So if you feel like flashing your S10 is warranted, no reason to wait. Lucky you. I had 22,000 miles on mine before the flash was easily available.

::026::


A Yamaha guy told me that the restrictions are ecological... only to save the environment, not the bike

 

[sportsguy]

Holy ECU flash!!!!!! This thing is ridculous with the flash.

There is no embellishment or over statement of just how good this flash is on our S10s. Allow me to push you over the fence if you are wondering if it's worth it. IT IS!!!! Do it!!!!

I way under estimated how much improvement it made on the bike. It seems to have improved every single area on the ride envelope.

I am beyond impressed!! This should be the second thing anyone/everyone does on this bike. Suspension first, ECU flash second! Period! It is that good!!!!

Did you use AF1 down in TX?

Which version of the "flash" did you get?

 

[snakebitten]

Same song. Added verse. You have now joined a sizable choir!

I disagree with the order though.

First tires.
Second flash.
Third suspension.

Order turns out to be sorted by price too.

 

[Firefight911]

Yrs, AF1. Most current iteration, Gen 2.



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[sportsguy]

Yrs, AF1. Most current iteration, Gen 2.



Sent from my Windows phone. Spelling errors free of charge.

Thank you sir.

 

[coastie]

Holy ECU flash!!!!!! This thing is ridculous with the flash.

There is no embellishment or over statement of just how good this flash is on our S10s. Allow me to push you over the fence if you are wondering if it's worth it. IT IS!!!! Do it!!!!

I way under estimated how much improvement it made on the bike. It seems to have improved every single area on the ride envelope.

I am beyond impressed!! This should be the second thing anyone/everyone does on this bike. Suspension first, ECU flash second! Period! It is that good!!!!

HAHA, Yea it should come from the factory like this. They would sell A LOT more motorcycles. I even love touring mode. I use it in stop and go traffic and in the dirt, so I don't have to deal with the touchy throttle. Sport mode is perfect for everything else.

 

[fredz43]

HAHA, Yea it should come from the factory like this. They would sell A LOT more motorcycles. I even love touring mode. I use it in stop and go traffic and in the dirt, so I don't have to deal with the touchy throttle. Sport mode is perfect for everything else.

The info for the 2014 says: T and S ride modes have been fine tuned for more manageable throttle response in town and more aggressive mapping for those back-road assaults.

It will be interesting to see if they got the message and actually will come from the factory this way. "More aggressive mapping" sounds good.