2014 Bar Risers

[ironranger]

Thunderwear: I would prefer to learn a little more about the set-up first. We have had other brands requesting a longer boss as well due to similar angled clamping geo's as the new Super T and I have told them No-go. It appears in this pic that the OEM cap bolt to bolt centerline is clamping over the riser boss though I would prefer it to be flush to the inside of the OEM riser. I am sure there are varying opinions but the wider the surface area with only two bolts the more area there is to spread the load. I am more than sure Yamaha has done FEA to determine what's good and acceptable. The 2012 & 2013 is straight/inline with the bike (12 and 6 as related to clock position). Looks like I may need to come up with a new option.

Chris O

 

[Travex]

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts on this, ironranger in particular. I very much appreciate your taking such an active interest as it seems we're in agreement that the current recommended solution is less than optimal. I believe the pics somewhat overemphasize the shortness of the boss, but they're too short nonetheless. I'll be pleased to send along the requested measurements when I return home or run into someone with a proper depth gauge, but as I'm touring for up to a couple/few weeks it may be a bit.

For my piece of mind and your interest I'm periodically checking for tightness, and as you can probably discern from the pics I'm paying appropriate attention to tightening sequence and placing greater hold on the leading edge.

I had great success on the 2012 with your risers for nearly two years and look forward to the same confidence on the '14. They favorably change the ergos and furnish a far better fit with the bike, in addition to providing ideal stand-up reach.

You're not alone in being confounded as to why Yamaha would affect such a peculiar non-standard change to a control interface which is probably more frequent than not, complimented by your product.

I'm curious what approach you'll be taking toward an amended riser. Would you consider a contiguous bar as Thunderwear proffered, angle the new extended boss complimentary to the stem, or just go with a simple butt-end?

Looking forward to your work Chris. Thanks again! ::003::

 

[ironranger]

Travex:
~Great job! Things have a way of seating themselves initially for a variety of reason's such as paint on the bar, out of round or oval bar shape, knurling on the OEM bar swaging itself into the riser, etc. My experience has been after the first check nothing typically ever moves.

~A continuous bar design would make it specific to the width of the these clamps and add cost if it was machined from one piece of billet ($$$$) or if it was a modular set-up ($$). My approach will be to either extend the boss via a small adaptor or design a new riser specific to this bike. We have a 8mm tapped hole in the boss for a GPS mount that could be used for an extension. Tapering the end to match the OEM riser/clamp would be tough as each person may have the riser rotated/positioned differently.

Shoot me a PM when you get the measurements and we will get to work on something.

Thanks for riding with Rox! I consider anyone who purchases our product a friend and fellow adventurer! Sounds cliché but its true as we do not exist with out you.

Chris

 

[Kevhunts]

Just thought I would jump in on this: First the riser that is being used in the photos is our 2" 1-1/8 riser that is a universal riser intended for a wide variety of platforms. It is not specific to the 2014 Super T. Yamaha's choice to re-arrange the clamping geometry's is a curious one for sure.

The A-R assembly procedure referenced in this thread was developed by me for the 2012 T as I had one of the earlier 2012 bikes as a personal bike and wanted better stand-up ergo's for off-road. I think there is a picture of that bike on the super T forum somewhere. I respect people who's opinion is to leave a bike as the OEM designed it and I would never recommend making modifications that you are not comfortable doing, are unsafe or steal your confidence. Bikes come in one size fits all whether you are 5'5" or 6'5". A riser simply fits the bike more comfortably to the rider if that's the riders choice.

I would like to state that we are a high quality USA made company. We pride our selves in our customer service, workmanship and top shelf materials. I would also agree and state that I to am disappointed with your hardware situation as it should not have gotten off the assembly line as you received it. If you would like to call us we can send out a new set of hardware no charge. Please call Rox direct @218-326-1794 and mention this thread.


Travex: can you give me the measurement from the end of the riser boss to the inside of the OEM clamp? How much more clamping area do we need?

God Bless and good riding,

Chris
Owner
Rox Speed FX Inc

Hats off to Chris for engaging current customers needs and requesting input to improve/enhance his products!

 

[Travex]

Hats off to Chris for engaging current customers needs and requesting input to improve/enhance his products!

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Hey Chris, I happen to be ambling around the Great Lakes and am in Duluth tonight. Am going to Thunder Bay tomorrow but it'd better to fight the sun your way than the rain theirs. If not, I'll be sure to get those numbers to you as I can. You caught me overlooking the obvious extension as the tapped hole is a good idea. Good forethought in any case.

 

[jimsgone]

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[ironranger]

Kevhunts: Thank you sir!

Travex: You will only be a hop skip and a jump from us when you hit Duluth. We are right up the road in the Grand Rapids area. 2.0 hrs will get you here. 37829 Rock Haven Road Cohasset, MN 55721. I may be to late if you are on the road but call me if you want to make the run over. I will pm my cell# to you and you can call at anytime.

Chris

 

[Travex]

Yeah, I looked you up and it was just 93 miles. Looked around town till midday and hadn't heard anything so I headed north. Not your fault, can't expect you to monitor the forums and get nothing done. I'll see if I can get in there with some better pics to give you a better idea until I measure. Adding my depth gauge to the tool-carry list.

 

[Travex]

Chris, I was able to use a caliper with a depth gauge today and noted the following measurements. Please bear in mind that as it was a caliper it's length kept me from positioning it ideally for an absolute measurement, so take these as very close approximation.

.275 @ the front and lesser portion of gap.

.490 @ the rear.

The pic is of the left stem and is rotated about 90° CW for camera placement.

Let me know if I can provide you with anything else that might be helpful to you. Sorry for the late reply as I was off the grid.

 

[ironranger]

Thanks, That's what we need. I appreciate you taking the time to do this. I hope your ride was enjoyable!

BTW - Off the grid is good!

Chris

 

[Travex]

You're welcome. The ride was excellent thanks.

I'm sure this is quite premature, but would you have an inkling as to whether any potential product(s) for the '14 would be available in a finish more like the bars and stems themselves rather than the machine finish?

 

[ironranger]

I think the anodized version matches up closer to the OEM finish. We can make that happen.

 

[Travex]

Very good. I'll look forward to it. Thanks.

 

[ThreePutt]

Bumping this up wondering what the progress is. Would love to order a set in any finish.

Thanks.

 

[ironranger]

Threeputt: I hope to have proto's done for fitment in the next week or so. I am not comfortable with an add-on to the existing Rox riser so I am designing a one piece riser specific to this bike. I will try to get something out a soon and safely as we can. I will try and post a 3-d pic of the proto in the next few days though I know you would like to hear we can ship tomorrow.

God bless and good riding.

Chris

 

[ThreePutt]

Thanks!

 

[Thunderwear]

Threeputt: I hope to have proto's done for fitment in the next week or so. I am not comfortable with an add-on to the existing Rox riser so I am designing a one piece riser specific to this bike. I will try to get something out a soon and safely as we can. I will try and post a 3-d pic of the proto in the next few days though I know you would like to hear we can ship tomorrow.

God bless and good riding.

Chris

Hey Chris....I will buy the new version too!!

2014 ES, Black, Inland Empire California

 

[XtreemLee]

Threeputt: I hope to have proto's done for fitment in the next week or so. I am not comfortable with an add-on to the existing Rox riser so I am designing a one piece riser specific to this bike. I will try to get something out a soon and safely as we can. I will try and post a 3-d pic of the proto in the next few days though I know you would like to hear we can ship tomorrow.

God bless and good riding.

Chris

I am watching this thread and want to be in line for this product as soon as its ready!

Lee

 

[Dmcleane]

Add me to that list!

 

[Grndlb]

I just installed the existing Rox 2" risers on my 14', but I'll be in line for the new version as well.