yellow dot on tire placement

leen

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I recently had a new tire mounted at I-90 motorsport in Issaquah Wa, and they didn't align the yellow dot on the tire with the valve stem. The dot is about 14" clockwise from the valve stem. I wasn't happy about this because I already mounted the wheel back on the bike before i noticed the problem.
My question to the group is, should I take the wheel off the bike and have the shop remount the tire?
 

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I wouldn't worry about it. This is going to shock some people, but I never bother to balance my tyres. Never had any vibration, never had any strange wear and never had any problems. Multiple bikes hundreds of sets of tyres.
 

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Tires now days are usually well balanced. Most often when I change tires I do not have to change the wheel weights. I guess they are balancing the wheel... If they put on an additional weight they compensated for the mounting position. If the weight was there to begin with, well maybe not... Ride it and see, probably no issue.
 

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iClint said:
I wouldn't worry about it. This is going to shock some people, but I never bother to balance my tyres. Never had any vibration, never had any strange wear and never had any problems. Multiple bikes hundreds of sets of tyres.
Yes, I've also heard of people NEVER synching carbs either. To each their own. I can tell a difference doing either one of these things, so........................... ::001::
 

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If it feels out of balance it probably is, if not well then just ride.

Very easy to balance your own tire btw, just look on YouTube.
 

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Do yourself a favor and grab some brake cleaner and a shop rag and remove the mark from the tire. It is really NBD.
 

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The dots on new tires that have them are not critical but are intended to guide technicians when positioning the tire on the rim during the mounting process.

Since it is very hard to make a tire that is perfectly balanced, some tire manufacturers apply yellow dots that indicate the tire's light balance point and serve to help you balance the assembly while mounting the tire. The yellow dots should be aligned with the valve stem on both steel and aluminum wheels since this is the wheel's heavy balance point. This will help minimize the amount of weight needed to balance a tire and wheel assembly. So usually, whenever you see a yellow dot, match it up with the valve stem.

This is always true except in cases where a red dot also appears in the lower sidewall. The red dot indicates the high point for both radial runout and radial force variation. As I'm sure you know, not only is it hard for tire manufacturers to make a perfectly balanced tire, it also is very difficult to make a perfectly round tire.

Tires tend to have high spots and low spots. The difference between the high and the low is called radial runout. Radial runout changes the radius of the rotating assembly, causing it to raise and lower the vehicle as it rolls along. That gives the perception that the tire is ``hopping'' or ``bouncing'' down the road and ends up delivering a rough ride to the driver and irregular wear to the tread.

Radial force variation is similar to radial runout and is a result of a heavy or thicker area being manufactured into the tire due to variations in component thickness, placement and overlapping. Radial force variation applies more force against the road at the tire's thicker spot as the tire runs, which causes one sidewall to flex differently than the other. The result is tire/wheel assembly vibration and irregular tread wear.

To avoid or minimize these problems, whenever you see a red spot, match this up with the valve stem-unless you happen to have a steel wheel that has a dimple on the exterior side of the rim area. The dimple indicates the wheels' low spot and is spec'ed by some original equipment manufacturers so that they can match mount tires and wheels installed on new trucks at the factory.

If you see both a red as well as a yellow dot on the tire, the red dot takes priority. An easy way to remember this is the phrase ``Red Rules.'' Ignore the yellow dot and match the red dot to the wheel low point dimple as some vehicle manufacturers do or, if no dimple is marked on the wheel, align the red dot with the valve stem.

If you see any blue, green, purple, white, pink or orange dots, just ignore them. They are ``mystery'' dots and are there for factory purposes. Once the tire leaves the manufacturing plant, dots of those colors have no use.

A tire with no dots does not indicate a lack of tire uniformity or factory inspection. It simply means that those tire companies didn't want to put any dots on their tires. So you are on your own. If you find imbalance to be a problem after mounting the tire, rotate the tire 180 degrees on the rim and then recheck the balance.

Since all the tire companies seem to have their own policies regarding mounting dots and there was no one source to find this information, the Technology and Maintenance Council (TMC) asked each company to advise it of its mounting markings and what they are to be used for. It then produced RP243 Tire and Wheel Match Mounting Markings.
 

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^^^^^^^^

Nice write up Kev. ::008::

Should be a sticky.
 
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