mrpete64
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Has anyone heard if this bike is coming to the U.S?
Mr Pete
Aging Hippie
Mr Pete
Aging Hippie
Yamaha XTZ660, the XT660, the 660, etc
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Dogdaze
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Re: Tenere 660?
Is there a new one? As the current one has been around since 2008 I think, in most of Europe. If it has not made it to the US shores yet, highly unlikely to, emissions!
Is there a new one? As the current one has been around since 2008 I think, in most of Europe. If it has not made it to the US shores yet, highly unlikely to, emissions!
Velvet
El lobo solitario
Re: Tenere 660?
Last year I wrote a letter to Yamaha about the 660 and they wrote back basically indicating that it will never be marketed in the USA. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it were.
Last year I wrote a letter to Yamaha about the 660 and they wrote back basically indicating that it will never be marketed in the USA. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it were.
Re: Tenere 660?
That's too bad. I will be taking delivery of a 2015 XR650L tomorrow since Yamaha will not sell a mid sized enduro in this country.
That's too bad. I will be taking delivery of a 2015 XR650L tomorrow since Yamaha will not sell a mid sized enduro in this country.
Re: Tenere 660?
Yamaha shot their development money to develop and start selling the new MT-07 twin, which costs about the same where the 660 is sold, has more power, and weighs less. When the 660 and MT-07 compete for dealer floorspace and the parent company wants to make a profit, that made a lot of sense. The big question over the last year is if/when MamaYama will come out with a VStrom-ish dual sport version.
Velvet said:
Yamaha shot their development money to develop and start selling the new MT-07 twin, which costs about the same where the 660 is sold, has more power, and weighs less. When the 660 and MT-07 compete for dealer floorspace and the parent company wants to make a profit, that made a lot of sense. The big question over the last year is if/when MamaYama will come out with a VStrom-ish dual sport version.
squarebore
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Re: Tenere 660?
Funny as we have the xt660 tenere but can't get the xr650 in Australia.Abercrombie Tenere said:
Its a Zebra
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I have always been a great fun of the Yammi. I am however in a predicament, on what to get my self- I tend to like the egos of a supermoto as tha XT offers, then again after reading some reviews, I don't want to be restricted to road alone. Tenene offers great egos as well, better brakes (so says the review), and capability to stark up laggages for a long odo log. Am looking for pros & cons for getting either bike, ooh am 5'11" in height, and weight 75kgs.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Dogdaze
Well-Known Member
Re: Yamaha XT 660 vs XT 660 Tenere
Hi and ::004::
I think you may look to join ADV or a 660 specific site, as this one primarily is XT1200Z. Having said that, the XT660Z is a very capable bike and I would not have any reservations about getting one, if there was any where local to use it for it's intended purpose...............
Hi and ::004::
I think you may look to join ADV or a 660 specific site, as this one primarily is XT1200Z. Having said that, the XT660Z is a very capable bike and I would not have any reservations about getting one, if there was any where local to use it for it's intended purpose...............
Re: Yamaha XT 660 vs XT 660 Tenere
Do you mean to ask about the 660 versus 1200?
Do you mean to ask about the 660 versus 1200?
chromax
New Member
660 ST
Whats up inmates? I hope I dont get hammered for posting this its not mine how ever its tempting at this price I have never seen one in person.
It looks clean, imported.. and light
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5705284186.html
Whats up inmates? I hope I dont get hammered for posting this its not mine how ever its tempting at this price I have never seen one in person.
It looks clean, imported.. and light
http://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/5705284186.html
Stridey
Member
Thats the older model pre-2008 and air cooled I think.
The XT660Z water cooled single is now defunct and stopped production I have read somewhere.
I have one of the first 500 build that I bought in 2008 and it has been a great bike. Mine has been all round Europe, belted down auto routes/motorways/free ways and covered about 40k odd miles. Never failed to start and only on its second battery (been on tender/charger). It will pull indicated 85-90 all day if you want.
Great bike, its build like a brick s**t house and pretty much bomb proof. Only things I've replaced are consumables such as tyres chains pads etc.
real shame you guys in the States never got it! Can-t you import one?
The XT660Z water cooled single is now defunct and stopped production I have read somewhere.
I have one of the first 500 build that I bought in 2008 and it has been a great bike. Mine has been all round Europe, belted down auto routes/motorways/free ways and covered about 40k odd miles. Never failed to start and only on its second battery (been on tender/charger). It will pull indicated 85-90 all day if you want.
Great bike, its build like a brick s**t house and pretty much bomb proof. Only things I've replaced are consumables such as tyres chains pads etc.
real shame you guys in the States never got it! Can-t you import one?
No and you hit a subject I work with so pardon me if this is a bit long. Plus, my daughter just walked away from totaling her Corolla because everything DID work.
Before a vehicle is licensed in the US (and EU) the model must pass Federal Customs requirements, safety, and environmental tests. btw - The EPA tests are actually not that tough for motorcycles which already pass similar ones in Europe, but the cost of the procedures and documentation is far beyond what individuals can do. The changes largely came as a result of the need to show crashworthiness, because some countries don't (or didn't) require safety glass in windshields, shoulder belts, head rests, collapsing steering columns, bumper standards, etc. The following is a 2016 test failure (0 out of 5 stars) of an India SUV and you can see the lack of airbags, loss of body integrity, head impact on the windshield, etc.
At one point there was a gray market of smaller companies which would do the tests and modifications for a fee, and factory delivery of European cars was very common. Remember that BMW/Yamaha/etc of USA/Canada/etc are NOT the OEM, they are basically importers/resellers with names like Yamaha USA. Usually they are wholly owned, but not always and there lay the rub.
The work of the gray market companies was frequently designed to be as inexpensive and easily un-done as possible to restore the non-US performance or looks. After people would import the cars they would eventually sell them to new owners and those people would go after the OEMs in other countries or uninvolved USA arms of those companies for warranty items and lawsuits. The laws of other countries don't apply and the US arms of the OEMs could not perform recalls which are requirements on them. Those gray market companies skirted rules and upset the OEM's so bad that it was pressure from the US arms of the car OEMs that got the rules got massively tightened. Below is what now applies for our State and it's typical.
http://www.mva.maryland.gov/about-mva/info/27300/27300-23T.htm
This also led to the international vehicular requirements that most countries use today and it's helped the OEMs not need to design umpteen versions of a vehicle, but there are still differences. For example, the US requires (iirc) 9 inches from center for motorcycle turn signals and a minimum number of square inches in size, which are more than the EU requires. Worse, some differences are intentional:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/12/double-safety-standards-abound-in-latin-america-global-markets/
Before a vehicle is licensed in the US (and EU) the model must pass Federal Customs requirements, safety, and environmental tests. btw - The EPA tests are actually not that tough for motorcycles which already pass similar ones in Europe, but the cost of the procedures and documentation is far beyond what individuals can do. The changes largely came as a result of the need to show crashworthiness, because some countries don't (or didn't) require safety glass in windshields, shoulder belts, head rests, collapsing steering columns, bumper standards, etc. The following is a 2016 test failure (0 out of 5 stars) of an India SUV and you can see the lack of airbags, loss of body integrity, head impact on the windshield, etc.
At one point there was a gray market of smaller companies which would do the tests and modifications for a fee, and factory delivery of European cars was very common. Remember that BMW/Yamaha/etc of USA/Canada/etc are NOT the OEM, they are basically importers/resellers with names like Yamaha USA. Usually they are wholly owned, but not always and there lay the rub.
The work of the gray market companies was frequently designed to be as inexpensive and easily un-done as possible to restore the non-US performance or looks. After people would import the cars they would eventually sell them to new owners and those people would go after the OEMs in other countries or uninvolved USA arms of those companies for warranty items and lawsuits. The laws of other countries don't apply and the US arms of the OEMs could not perform recalls which are requirements on them. Those gray market companies skirted rules and upset the OEM's so bad that it was pressure from the US arms of the car OEMs that got the rules got massively tightened. Below is what now applies for our State and it's typical.
http://www.mva.maryland.gov/about-mva/info/27300/27300-23T.htm
This also led to the international vehicular requirements that most countries use today and it's helped the OEMs not need to design umpteen versions of a vehicle, but there are still differences. For example, the US requires (iirc) 9 inches from center for motorcycle turn signals and a minimum number of square inches in size, which are more than the EU requires. Worse, some differences are intentional:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/12/double-safety-standards-abound-in-latin-america-global-markets/
Re: Tenere 660?
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I was thing exactly the same.squarebore said:
CW -Checkswrecks said:
If you don't mind telling, what exactly do you do and who do you do it for? I'm guessing it's gov work given where you live and the stuff you seem to be involved in. Please share some details if you can. Sounds very interesting.
Thanks,
Bob S.
I lead groups doing aircraft accident investigations for a Fed agency. The agency is small and multimodal, so we also sometimes help groups with things other than airplanes. A lot of the posts you see from me are something to do while traveling.