Yamaha UK to stop selling new Tenere's

[CraigM]

I must admit though, I don't mind the fact that the S10 is "rarer" than the GS army (as long as Yamaha stay profitable of course). Appreciate the KTMs aren't as widespread but I'm quite happy with not seeing another S10 on every corner. ::022::

 

[HoebSTer]

This conversation is surely entertaining to say the least. I get the BMW has a cult following, as do many bikes we have available to us, but after riding "boring" Hondas over the years and now this "Boring" reliable Yamaha, I will stick with it. I have never heard of a Goldwing and or ST1100/1300 or FJR dropping a rear differential during an Iron Butt ride. I would actually like to hear of a failed driveline on a Japanese bike that wasn't owner neglect. ( I think this is where I go grab the popcorn and a frosty beverage and wait!!)
I guess in some ways I get snotty towards BMW guys since they are usually the ones with a "chip" as if their Whale Foreskin is better than my horse hide apparrell. IN general, it would take an earth shattering lottery-winning movement for me to hop on over to a German born foreskin follower.
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[Rasher]

So now, I have a great bike that afforded me to buy my required farkles including a high end rear shock, bags, skid plate, blah blah windscreen...rabble rabble..crash bars and several exhausts ::025::, for less than $16. oh and I got to keep my other two bikes, for less than the price of a new bare bones GS.

No brainer. Too bad not everyone is seeing the light. Again to each his own.

Yeah, I just wish we had the same "No Brainer" pricing over here ::008::

 

[Dallara]

The 30K figure is well substantiated. For example:

http://bmwmcmag.com/2012/01/r1200gs-is-again-the-best-selling-bmw-worldwide/

As I said in my original post, I was guessing what S10 sales are, but there have been other threads on this where various pieces of information have been pieced together to indicate the number is probably a few thousand since introduction. From this, you can back out yearly sales and I think 3K/year worldwide is probably optimistic. And whether it is 2K or 5K doesn't materially change the conclusion that the GS is vastly outselling the S10 and the introduction of a new model is likely to make it moreso.

Believe what you want.

So again, as usual... You really have no earthly idea how many Super Tenere's Yamaha sells a year. You're once again just making stuff up as you go along, right?

Other threads have gone through the details of the computation, but it is basically correct if you comparably-equip the same models and use list prices. I don't feel like doing it again. This may, of course, differ from what you're able to negotiate and/or what the difference will be with various OEM and aftermarket accessories.

So once more, you make an erroneous, sweeping statement - one with no real basis in fact - and then when challenged to prove your point you simply walk away, mumbling something about how you know this and know that but don't need to explain it... Typical. So much so it's becoming your trademark.

Funny, too...

How you made that quip about the Super Tenere's reliability... What was it you said?

"A reputation for superior Japanese reliability will only carry you so far and it is not like the S10 is flawless in this area either."

Several folks asked you to explain, clarify, or support that remark, and what do you do? Why, ignore it, of course! Again, textbook markjenn. Make a completely erroneous, literally ludicrous statement - couched as though it were some known fact - and then offer no support of your ramblings. How reliable does the Super Tenere have to be to score better than your hallowed, holy grail - that BMW? How dependable do worldwide S-10's need to be before you think they're "flawless"?

Better yet, why don't you just tell us of all the Yamaha Super Tenere *failures* you are aware of? Please emphasize all the ones you *know for a fact* that have had such failures as to leave teh rider stranded... You know, like those wonderful BMW's do when their final drives, clutches, shock mounts, etc. fail...

You need that BMW, Mark... Bad. Why? Because you'd fit right in with the mass self-deception and truth-deprivation so many Beemer pilots exhibit and enjoy.

Dallara



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[r1d1]

My Super Tenere looks like a proper motorcycle.
All those other single-sided swingarm things look like they have left the factory with a vital part missing, which may go some way to explaining rear drive failures ::009::

The S10 is currently the bike for me - it may be joined in the garage (but not replaced), depending on what those splendid Yamaha fellows decide to put their nice new triple engine into ::022::

 

[Tremor38]

Re: Re: Yamaha UK to stop selling new Tenere's

This conversation is surely entertaining to say the least. I get the BMW has a cult following, as do many bikes we have available to us, but after riding "boring" Hondas over the years and now this "Boring" reliable Yamaha, I will stick with it. I have never heard of a Goldwing and or ST1100/1300 or FJR dropping a rear differential during an Iron Butt ride. I would actually like to hear of a failed driveline on a Japanese bike that wasn't owner neglect. ( I think this is where I go grab the popcorn and a frosty beverage and wait!!)
I guess in some ways I get snotty towards BMW guys since they are usually the ones with a "chip" as if their Whale Foreskin is better than my horse hide apparrell. IN general, it would take an earth shattering lottery-winning movement for me to hop on over to a German born foreskin follower.
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Agree with almost everything you wrote with one exception. BMWs don't have 'differential' failures. No bikes does unless it's a trike.

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[creggur]

Who besides me is glad to see Dallara back? Missed you, man - how about letting us know before you up and disappear next time...

 

[Rasher]

Just read the Air Cooled 1200GS (2004 - 2012) sold 180,000 according to BMW, an average of around £20k per year over the nine year run.

I reckon 10:1 ration to Super Tenere's may be fairly accurate, can't see the new one doing as well just due to sheer number of bike now in this segment, in 2004 at the height of Ewan McBoredme fever there wa sonly a few bikes in this segment, now there are a dozen or so all jostling for position, they caught the crest of a wave and rode it perfectly.

Plus now many of the new sales will be to existing owners, the flood of used GS models into the market with the die hard lining up for this new model will supress sales as those who have not yet migrated from their sportsbikes have a vast choice of cheap used GS' to choose from, as well as they dozen or so other bikes.

What is starting to change in the UK is these bikes do get taken far more seriously by the press these days, I remember reviews of Africa Twins and XTZ750's etc back in their days were always utter pistakes, the reviewers would cane them flat out and start moaning about these ridiculous bikes that were slower than an FZR400RR and produced crap lap times. I still think the UK Journo's don't get the long term ownership thing, but they are starting to appreciate that a bike that "only" does 130mph and has less than 150BHP can be fun to ride, and I think this market will start to grow further.

I am also seeing mates testing these bikes now, some will trade in, and I know others who instead of trading there 3-4 year old sportsbike for the latest model are keeping hold of it and looking to get an adventure bike as a second bike, and we all know which one will end up sat in the garage 90% of the time :exclaim: