cosmic said:
Oem gizmo that works like in cars would came handy, that i recon, but i'am not sure how safe are those mods available on the market.
Having used various bike CC units, from the factory GL1800 to Audiovox add on unit on a FJR, safety isn't an issue. They all disengage with a touch of the brake, front or rear, or clutch use, or excess rpms. Really pretty seamless. When engaged there always seems to be some slack in the throttle tube that allows your hand to relax and not be moved about by the CC, though a hill may move where the slack is, you feel it as more of a nudge, than any sudden movement of the throttle tube under your hand, and can over-ride it if you needed to.
Safety is in when you choose to engage the CC, rather than how it works. It would be dumb to try and use it in traffic, for example, or a tight twisty road that really required more throttle control and changes as well as gear shifts. Trying to just motor on thru at speed would not always suit the situation.
Hopefully the aftermarket will come up with a nice CC unit for the throttle by wire bikes that doesn't cost a fortune, works well and is using the technology, rather than just tacking on a old style vac unit or ignoring the throttle by wire technology available. I'd rather have a backwards compatible Yamaha CC! And would pay more for it, but not 10X more. You can buy a pair of heated grip panels and a Heat-Troller for around $125, but Yamaha wants over $300 for their bulky factory units that are plug and play. I'd probably pay $500 or even a little more for a plug and play Yamaha CC kit, but not $1k, for example.
Honestly, I just don't think the numbers are there for Yamaha to spend the money on R&D and offer us the CC option. Market pressure with the Explorer might bump the possibility of some of this stuff becoming standard for the S10 in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
@MarkJenn -
No, every bike has speedo error. If you didn't have a GPS, you wouldn't even know.
No (dude, you're in CA, remove your charcoal canister and tweak your fuel, Yamaha can't legally do it for you)
What problem? You know how to avoid it and what to do when you cause it to occur.
The math says the wire is acceptable, but there is a connector flaw.
Asking for better latches on the bags is like putting lipstick on a pig, the bags are still pretty cheesy, even if they had nicer latches.
Rear wheel strength? Ok, you got me on that one, WTF? (though I wouldn't mind seeing a cast wheel option) Check the GS forums for lots of bent wheels on both ends.
Nothing wrong with having a knock sensor... but the spec'd fuel for the bike is 91 RON, so how about you just use that?
Are you really
that good of a rider? But it's two wires and a switch, you can do that yourself for cheaper than Yamaha can.
Ok, we do agree on these next two, but I don't see the CC happening and we might get lucky on the switches, even better if TCS was changeable on the fly.
??? Wait, you have a CA model, that's possibly the issue here.
Do you really go back and forth with this? I agree it's a trivial issue that they should have corrected, but suspect it only will be changed when they run out of the parts already made.
I fixed the throttle cable in the line of sight with a zip tie on day ONE. It's a dumb left over from dirt bike days. You're right, they should fix it, like how about reducing their SKUs and using existing dual cable throttle housings already in stock? The FJR unit would work on the S10 and eliminate that issue.
Not going to happen. It's a cigg plug because all the accessories sold come with a cigg plug, like your phone charger and GPS and even your air pump, (that you can't use there since the wiring is too light and the fuse is too small).
Do you want a quiet fan? Or one that flows enough to do the job? You want quiet, stop riding in traffic and wear ear plugs. I can't believe you're bitching about this one.
So I give you props on 4 of your 15 items and sort of agree with a couple more. The others are either non-issues or cheaply correctable by the owner.
