xengibez
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Just come across this photo of a Honda XLV750R and the Shaft Drive is uncannily like the S10.. ;-)
XLV750R Shaft Drive
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Dogdaze
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You mean the S10 resembles the XLV? I believe most FD's follow a similar look to perform basically the same function. BMW like to add a huge support as they and Honda utilise a single-sided configuration, Honda on the Crosstourer has a nicer look than the BM's, but not the same overheating issues....... ::017::
BTW, I fell in love with the XLV750R back when it was first shown as a Paris-Dakar contender.
BTW, I fell in love with the XLV750R back when it was first shown as a Paris-Dakar contender.
caillou
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Actually, BMW is using the Paralever system, with 2 universal joints, since the 90's (and is not the only one) to eliminate the "bad" effects of driving shaft on braking and increase rear suspension travel without needing a long swing arm. The Guzzi Stelvio is using the exact same system. Funny enough, BMW previous system on the G/S was the monolever, with a single U joint, and was way more reliable than the Paralever, mainly because the drive shaft and U joint was in oil while "permanently lubricated" on the Paralever (originally, the Paralever was supposed to be run in oil but leakages led R&D to mount permanently lubricated U joints).
Not sure the the XLV system was reliable (the bike was not, and has been replaced rapidly by the much much better Africa Twin) but since the introduction of the Paralever by BMW, the reliability and rock solid reputation of BMW driving shats has suffered a lot.
Not sure the the XLV system was reliable (the bike was not, and has been replaced rapidly by the much much better Africa Twin) but since the introduction of the Paralever by BMW, the reliability and rock solid reputation of BMW driving shats has suffered a lot.
Dogdaze
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There a lot of big Jap cruisers that run dry shafts and some with housing some without so that you can actually see the shaft rotate while moving, oil seals at both ends....
I used to love the look of the old XLV but the were desperately unreliable. Rare as hens teeth now due to the numerous 'issues' they had, a lot of which became beyond economic repair. I think the bike market is ready for a mid capacity shaft drive bike and I'm amazed Moto Guzzi haven't released an 'adventure' version of the sweet V7. Honda also had the Deauville (or Dullsville as it was cruelly called) which would have been easily converted into a shaft drive Transalp style bike. What do I know, eh ?