WR250R vs DR650SE temptation building

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You'd probably be able to get most of your money out of a used clean 690, so I could see you justifying it. Besides, you'd always see it as the one that got away if you don't get one. And I wouldn't want to try your bike as much if you buy the Suzi. Errmm - Never mind that last part.
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The alternative to me would not be the Suzi, it'd be a Husky TR650 or maybe a 610. More horsepower (48), lighter weight (400 lbs) than the Suzi, good parts support and community, well balanced. What's not to like? Heck, they are still selling new ones for only $5999 new and clean used ones pop up for really good prices on Craigslist. Better if you can wait a few months till winter sets back in.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I am digging it. I'll admit there's part of me that looks at that bike, the old design, nothing cool looking on it at all, and I think to myself, really...? This thing has been out forever, why am I so amused by it? But the truth is, that basic, no frills thing put a smile on my face and I need to be honest with myself... I liked it.
I know what you mean, I've eyeballed the DR myself. Like you said, old school, no frills, basic, not that cool looking, but just something about it. There sure is a cult following, and all those guys who keep going back to them must see the attraction of a reliable old tank, that you can customize to no end...
 

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Checkswrecks said:
The alternative to me would not be the Suzi, it'd be a Husky TR650 or maybe a 610. More horsepower (48), lighter weight (400 lbs) than the Suzi, good parts support and community, well balanced. What's not to like? Heck, they are still selling new ones for only $5999 new and clean used ones pop up for really good prices on Craigslist. Better if you can wait a few months till winter sets back in.
The DR has a dry weight of 324lbs. The Husky certainly doesn't look 75lbs heavier. I am still curious about it. Yesterday I started researching the Husky. Currently have a full page of Husky images up on one of the browser tabs. I need to do more reading about those bikes.
 

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Checks is onto something... maybe wait till winter. That gives you time to more seriously think it over and research your options. Plus you are more likely to get a better deal during the winter doldrums and it gives you a farkle project during bad weather to get it just right to go riding in the Spring.
 

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Been doing some additional research. A used DR is coming up as something I think I'm going to have to try.

I've washed my WR. That's such a rare event I actually put it in the maintenance log.

This goofy (often stupid) video actually shows what is appealing to me as the potential of the DR. What it shows is really all the capability I'm looking for.

SUZUKI DR650 - THE WORLD'S BEST BIKE
 

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On a somewhat serious note, make sure that you get enough pre-buy DR seat time on one before committing. I've ridden a couple and found the good ol' Honda 650 was more of a kick in the pants.


And while you've written about the KTM 690R, what about a good old 525EXC, or even a 450EXC
 

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Checkswrecks said:
And while you've written about the KTM 690R, what about a good old 525EXC, or even a 450EXC
Years ago I owned the 520EXC. Amazingly powerful bike. It was a blast for the first hour or two. But in the tighter trails of the east coast it got downright dangerous at hour 4 and beyond. They body is starting to get fatigued, the bike isn't. That bike wore me out.

It's exactly what I'm wanting to get away from now. I'm lucky if I get out to any true trails once a year. The vast overwhelming dirt riding to which I have regular access is dirt road in some form or another. Having a super capable dirt bike is nearly useless to me. The compromise in conform that super capable bike demands is unnecessary. I rather have something better suited to the real world riding that I do. The DR ain't sexy, but it does seem to be able to do everything I'm going to throw at it.
 

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Years ago I owned the 520EXC. Amazingly powerful bike. It was a blast for the first hour or two. But in the tighter trails of the east coast it got downright dangerous at hour 4 and beyond. They body is starting to get fatigued, the bike isn't. That bike wore me out.

It's exactly what I'm wanting to get away from now. I'm lucky if I get out to any true trails once a year. The vast overwhelming dirt riding to which I have regular access is dirt road in some form or another. Having a super capable dirt bike is nearly useless to me. The compromise in conform that super capable bike demands is unnecessary. I rather have something better suited to the real world riding that I do. The DR ain't sexy, but it does seem to be able to do everything I'm going to throw at it.

You've mentioned the FZ1 and 520EXC before, I just forgot you had them.


And I remember that when you got the WRR you said/wrote things like "ain't sexy, but it does seem to be able to do everything I'm going to throw at it." What I'm picking up is that like Little Red Riding Hood, the soup was too hot with the the 520 & FZ1, it's too cold with the WRR, and you are looking for just right. To me, the DR is just too close to a KLR. Here is where a WR450 sure would suit me/us but of course, the dirt bike conversions can't be made legal in VA and MD and Yamaha is so far not selling a factory version.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
You've mentioned the FZ1 and 520EXC before, I just forgot you had them.


And I remember that when you got the WRR you said/wrote things like "ain't sexy, but it does seem to be able to do everything I'm going to throw at it." What I'm picking up is that like Little Red Riding Hood, the soup was too hot with the the 520 & FZ1, it's too cold with the WRR, and you are looking for just right. To me, the DR is just too close to a KLR. Here is where a WR450 sure would suit me/us but of course, the dirt bike conversions can't be made legal in VA and MD and Yamaha is so far not selling a factory version.
Interesting way of looking at it. Yes, the KTM was too hot in many ways. It was a case of too much actually being too much. Thing was a beast to keep under control. The FZ1 I've always called the most boring bike I've ever owned. But it was too hot (fast) for its own good. I've enjoyed owing the WR and I didn't realize it was too cold, until I got a hold of the DR.

Actually I always said I wanted the WR to see what it could teach me. I've never had a small displacement bike in my adult life. My wife showed me what she could accomplish on a little 125cc and I was impressed. I wanted to see if I could learn new things with the little WR. I think what I learned is that I'm no longer in a position in life where my dirt skill will see any significant advancement. I don't have regular access to any place that could challenge me to improve. Instead I realize I have the skills that I have, and I accept that. I think what the DR did is make me realize the experiment is over. Time to return to those capabilities that are familiar and satisfying. The performance of the DR is fitting that description.

You probably won't be surprised to learn I owned a KLR. In fact, it is still the bike I've owned the longest out of all bikes in my adult history. I liked my KLR, but it was a top heavy pig. Something that is really appealing to me about the DR is it feels so little and easy to control. It really doesn't remind me of my old KLR. It reminds me more of my wife's old XT350 from 25 years ago (her first bike). I had an XT600 at that time. That bike reminds me of the KLR.

My god...I've had a lot of bikes. Maybe my wife is right...I might have problem.

WR is up for sale.
 

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Sexy Austrian definitely not. Suspension is the biggest limiting factor (and seat). But farkle out a DR to suit yourself (and it will never be a sexy Austrian) then wheelie and skate to your hearts content.

http://www.overlandjournal.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/SPR10_20-25.pdf ::024::

Annnnd, you can RIDE it to and from the mountains from home or RTW loaded to the gills with camping (gasp!!!) gear while still having fun.

I look forward to watching you disappear out of sight around the mountain as you roost knobs into chunks! Caution!! Stay back! Jon's about to launch!!!

BTW... ::006::
 

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spklbuk said:
I look forward to watching you disappear out of sight around the mountain as you roost knobs into chunks! Caution!! Stay back! Jon's about to launch!!!

BTW... ::006::
It seems like most of time the suspension is fine for what I'll be doing. But I did find that going fast on a washboarded out steep downhill was too much for the stock suspension, actually, going up it kinda sucked, too. I'll need to do something about that, but probably less than most would do. I still have the sophistication of a paperclip when it comes to suspension.

I don't anticipate doing a huge amount of farkling to it. Just make it wheelie, tweak suspension, get some tires with grip (wondering if Dunlop 606 will fit) and put a skid plate on it. How much could that cost...don't answer that.

No pics just yet.

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Someone is gonna get a really nice WRR if they scoop up DirtDad's bike. And now I just gotta follow even further back from him to avoid his roost!!!
Thanks, and thanks for the bump on the ad earlier today. Haven't seen that picture in a while.

I don't think I've ever roosted you. I'm normally following you. Besides, roosting seems like a totally inefficient way to move a motorcycle. It is both a waste of fuel and very hard on tire life. Count me out. O:)

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Years ago I owned the 520EXC. Amazingly powerful bike. It was a blast for the first hour or two. But in the tighter trails of the east coast it got downright dangerous at hour 4 and beyond. They body is starting to get fatigued, the bike isn't. That bike wore me out.
Check out a 350 EXC-F some time, it's a perfect balance of power and agility.
 

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In the immortal words of Brody: You're gonna need a bigger boat barn.

 

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trikepilot said:
DirtMom is right... you do have a problem!!
Funny...Dirt_Child said the same thing to me this evening when she saw the picture on my phone.

The first step of recovery is to admit you have a problem.

Screw that, I don't have a problem. I can quit at any time. I just don't chose to quit, but I could.

I'll admit I might have had a problem when this video was shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9WZROGVzR4&list=UU-wPVYY-dOgFPtFGDdkvsJw

But I'm better now.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
In the immortal words of Brody: You're gonna need a bigger boat barn.

::012:: ::012:: ::012:: ::003::


I don't anticipate doing a huge amount of farkling to it.
::)

Just make it wheelie, tweak suspension, get some tires with grip (wondering if Dunlop 606 will fit) and put a skid plate on it. How much could that cost...don't answer that.
Yes, D606 is a popular tire for the DR as are many others...and don't forget to budget for a bigger tank someday...

Here lies all most some of what else you might or might not need want to know!! ::024::

http://www.motocd.com/mc/
http://www.kientech.com/DR650ProdList.htm
http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html

and here is the rest...
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549433 info index thread
http://drriders.com/


Your farkle list may tend stretch out slightly over time. :eek: Once it is built to suit you, there will be no regrets. Behind the times or not, the machine is just plain fun. And there is NO comparison to a KLR, two different animals altogether.

Oh yeah! I hear these folks can outfit a DR with a killer set of rims...http://www.buchananspokes.com/categories/rims_sun.asp that help make the DR handle like a feather weight. >:D
 
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