winter riding
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I am using one piece riding suite ( a local made aerostich kind of solution) also I am wearing thermal liner plus a polar jacket. However I am seriously considering the following modifications for the winter riding
- to install a carbon heater element under my seat.
- heated grips ( daytona)
- have a electric jacket or vest.
at this topic things gets complicated.
a) lithium battery powered euipment or 12V powered ones? there are increasing number of lithium battery powered riding equipments. If they do a decent job they might be good option since having a cable harness to the bike is something that annoyes me is there anyone who experienced lithium battery powered riding suits? could you comment about they are decent solution for riding or not?
b) Vest or JacketAccording to my reserch heating around the corebody is the essential thing and since blood is circulated around our body a good vest could heat the rest of the body. Is there anyone in the forum could comment if the vest would be fair enough or it is better to go with a jacket? the second reason that I would like to go with vest is wearing something without sleeves under one piece riding suite could be more comfortable during the ride .
c) which brand and technology I consider Gebring or exo2... it seems exo solution is superrior since the material they are using ( fabroc) is really advanced.
- to install a carbon heater element under my seat.
- heated grips ( daytona)
- have a electric jacket or vest.
at this topic things gets complicated.
a) lithium battery powered euipment or 12V powered ones? there are increasing number of lithium battery powered riding equipments. If they do a decent job they might be good option since having a cable harness to the bike is something that annoyes me is there anyone who experienced lithium battery powered riding suits? could you comment about they are decent solution for riding or not?
b) Vest or JacketAccording to my reserch heating around the corebody is the essential thing and since blood is circulated around our body a good vest could heat the rest of the body. Is there anyone in the forum could comment if the vest would be fair enough or it is better to go with a jacket? the second reason that I would like to go with vest is wearing something without sleeves under one piece riding suite could be more comfortable during the ride .
c) which brand and technology I consider Gebring or exo2... it seems exo solution is superrior since the material they are using ( fabroc) is really advanced.
longride
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I commuted in Chicago for 30 years in the winter when it wasn't snowing. A heated vest a gloves, snow pants, layers on torso with a good jacket, thick socks with insulated boots and a balaclava with a helmet is what I wore. It was fine for most days, and if you are getting cold with that gear, it is truly time to take the car! Hazards like black ice and frost will ruin your day in a hurry. I know firsthand. the cold isn't terrible if you dress for it.
Aerostich sells a heated jacket that is real expensive but works great. I rode in 20F last year without heated seat or gloves, just riding jacket and pants over work clothes. And it's made in US of A, which still means something to me.
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With me it depends on how far & how cold. Riding to Daytona bike week this March I rode with heated pants & jacket liners, heated socks, heated grip puppy's and was cozy in 20 deg weather. The 1st thing I would recommend is the plastic wings and a + windshield. IMO since I have owned both I did not notice I get colder on the ST ymmvlapi said:
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Start with the Yamaha side deflectors and a windscreen like the Parabelum. Then heated grips. I have the inexpensive Symtec and rarely need to run them on high.
I used a heated vest (Weider) for many years then moved to a heated jacket (Gen 4 Warn and Safe). The jacket is far better than the vest because your arms are out in the wind and get very cold with just the vest. I am wired to the bike but I use a section of coiled wire and can get off the bike and refuel without unplugging. If I walk away from the bike without unplugging, the coaxial connector comes undone without drama. You'll need a controller of some type. Warm and Safe sells the well respected Heattroller and they now have a remote model. I use the EXO2 which works very well.
Heated grips and a heated jacket may be all you need. Get a good pair of winter gloves (see Revzilla) for and excellent review by Anthony) and consider a larger set of handguards like the Touratech. I have a pair of the Gerbings battery powered (7 volt Li) gloves that I use for skiing in cold conditions. They really take the edge off but only last 2 hours on high and 5 on low. If you want heated gloves on the bike, why not take advantage of all the power that the 12 volt system gives?
After a rather cool tour last week I ordered Warm and Safe's Ultimate II Touring gloves, W&S heated pants and socks, and another EXO2 controller to run the pants and socks. I haven't installed the new controller but when I do I'll post my impressions.
On thing I like about the W&S gear is that it is not insulated. Meaning it is only hot when it is on. Hear in the Colorado Rockies it can be very cold on a 12,000 foot pass and very warm 20 minutes later down in a 4,000 foot valley. With insulated gear you have to stop and change often. With W&S you just twist the controller.
The Advrider site gear section has many reader reviews of heated gear. If you purchase from W&S use the discount code advrider for a nice savings.
Jeff
I used a heated vest (Weider) for many years then moved to a heated jacket (Gen 4 Warn and Safe). The jacket is far better than the vest because your arms are out in the wind and get very cold with just the vest. I am wired to the bike but I use a section of coiled wire and can get off the bike and refuel without unplugging. If I walk away from the bike without unplugging, the coaxial connector comes undone without drama. You'll need a controller of some type. Warm and Safe sells the well respected Heattroller and they now have a remote model. I use the EXO2 which works very well.
Heated grips and a heated jacket may be all you need. Get a good pair of winter gloves (see Revzilla) for and excellent review by Anthony) and consider a larger set of handguards like the Touratech. I have a pair of the Gerbings battery powered (7 volt Li) gloves that I use for skiing in cold conditions. They really take the edge off but only last 2 hours on high and 5 on low. If you want heated gloves on the bike, why not take advantage of all the power that the 12 volt system gives?
After a rather cool tour last week I ordered Warm and Safe's Ultimate II Touring gloves, W&S heated pants and socks, and another EXO2 controller to run the pants and socks. I haven't installed the new controller but when I do I'll post my impressions.
On thing I like about the W&S gear is that it is not insulated. Meaning it is only hot when it is on. Hear in the Colorado Rockies it can be very cold on a 12,000 foot pass and very warm 20 minutes later down in a 4,000 foot valley. With insulated gear you have to stop and change often. With W&S you just twist the controller.
The Advrider site gear section has many reader reviews of heated gear. If you purchase from W&S use the discount code advrider for a nice savings.
Jeff
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It all depends on your version of winter riding. How cold does it get ?? Just keep in mind that the longer you ride, the colder you will get. If it's very cold at all, at some point you will need some external heat source. Your body just won't be able to keep up the heat output. Enter heated gear. It is relatively inexpensive these days, and it makes a HUGE difference in your comfort. You can direct wire the connector right into the battery, and it becomes really easy to use. A jacket or vest is a good start, and may be all you need. They also make heated gloves, and I recommend at least carrying some of these. I had my heated grips quit on me once. If you get heated gear, get a thermostat with it.
Good luck. ::26:: R
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Parabellum windscreen, deflectors, heated vest under First Gear Kilimanjaro.
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Howdy,
Wind Deflectors, larger windshield, heated liner (not vest), heated grips, etc. as others have mentioned should do the trick. I would give a strong recommendation with going with a wireless controller. Makes installation easy and can be moved from bike to bike or snowmobile, etc. I used the 3m waterproof Velcro that Aerostich sells to mount both the transmitter on the bike and the receiver on the liner.
Later,
Norm
Wind Deflectors, larger windshield, heated liner (not vest), heated grips, etc. as others have mentioned should do the trick. I would give a strong recommendation with going with a wireless controller. Makes installation easy and can be moved from bike to bike or snowmobile, etc. I used the 3m waterproof Velcro that Aerostich sells to mount both the transmitter on the bike and the receiver on the liner.
Later,
Norm
Welcome to this side of the Yamaha family from the Feejer forum. You'll find a bunch of us here.
A bunch of others have already weighed in. I wear my Klim jacket and which liner under it is a matter of how cold it will be. I have an electric Powerlet jacket and Gerbing gloves for when temps are in the 30 or less. Usually, I'm good with just a North Face bionic jacket.
I run a medium Parabellum windscreen, which is a lot wider than stock.
From the FJR, I find less need for hand warmth, due to the guards. Also good is that the Tenere has plenty of electric capability, as with the new FJR, so when cold & 2-up we can both run jackets and gloves with no worries.
A bunch of others have already weighed in. I wear my Klim jacket and which liner under it is a matter of how cold it will be. I have an electric Powerlet jacket and Gerbing gloves for when temps are in the 30 or less. Usually, I'm good with just a North Face bionic jacket.
I run a medium Parabellum windscreen, which is a lot wider than stock.
From the FJR, I find less need for hand warmth, due to the guards. Also good is that the Tenere has plenty of electric capability, as with the new FJR, so when cold & 2-up we can both run jackets and gloves with no worries.
escapefjrtist
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Echoing all that's been said. Make sure you have good gear and electrics and you can comfortably ride in cold temps.
Last week the S10 got heated grips, a pig-tail for the jacket and a ST VStream windshield. Heading out on Saturday morning, it was in the high 30's and everything was toasty warm.
Good luck!
--G
Last week the S10 got heated grips, a pig-tail for the jacket and a ST VStream windshield. Heading out on Saturday morning, it was in the high 30's and everything was toasty warm.
Good luck!
--G
I find heated grips and handlebar muffs allow me to ride down to around freezing, but as cold here often means damp I rarely ride below 5c anyway, good gloves with heated grips are enough with my normal textiles, I just put the liners back in for winter, wear a thermal fleece and some thermal socks.
I regularly do 3 hour+ rides late at night and have done so at -3oC. I use a Keis heated jacket. (vests arent great coz you cant easily attach heated gloves to them). I use Gerbing heated gloves coz in my opinion they are the best but they use a different size plug to Keis so I have a small adapter on each sleeve to connect Keis to Gerbing. You can buy those adapters very cheaply from Maplin in the UK. Finally I have fitted 'washboard' type things to my crashbars to try and keep the cold and wet off my feet which previously was a big issue. Oh! and I use the bigger Givi screen. Hope that helps. Sorry if any typos in this.(nightmare to type on my phone)
TwoShots
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Klim outers to cut the wind, a synergy jacket liner, gerbings gloves, heated grips, silk long underwear and silk socks works for me.
I think -30c in the UK must be a typo or was that somewhere else???stutrump said:
Anyway I rode to work this morning with the temp at 0c / 32f with no heated gear, but it's not a long ride - about 20 minutes. I have heated gloves which I would need if the ride were longer - over 1/2 hour maybe and the next step would be my heated vest. I've never used heated grips, so I'm curious if they are better or just more convenient than heated gloves?
As has been said, it depends how long and how far, but also on your tolerance to the cold. If you have poor circulation, you'll get cold very quickly. My left hand middle finger goes numb first. lol.
Good point.elwood said:
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Whats a zero between friendsstutrump said:
I run a Parabellum 22 inch screen and winglets. Cuts a lots of wind from your torso. Also have heated jacket and gloves. Even with the barkbusters, my hands are the first to get cold. I wrap a scarf around my chin and tuck into the helmet to keep the neck warm. The lower half gets FirstGear overpants with quilted thermal liners. Haven't seen the need for heated pants. Even in 20F temps, those pants are toasty.