shrekonwheels
New Member
This, excellent post.Scott Williams said:
why such bad reviews
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Went out for a ride on my tenere and called in at bike dealer (honda) to have a look round . A man who was doing some work to the shops alarm system came up to me to ask what i thought of the tenere . After telling him i said do you have a bike yourself, he said yes i have a one of the new watercooled bmw gs but i,m sick of running back and forth to the dealers , its on its second cylinder head . Its my second bmw i got my money back from bmw on the first one , when i was touring abroad i took a really tight turn and the handlebars hit the tank trapping my hand and i fell off . When the bike was examined they found bmw had welded the steering lock stop in the wrong place so they had to refund me .. I've been reading how bullet proof these tenere,s are have you had any problems . I said no nothing and this is my second one ...so to me being top of the sellers list year in and year out , being the lightest weight in its class , getting brilliant reviews means jack shxt if the thing is in for repairs all the time ... ::022::
I was set on buying the KTM based on the reviews. Then i looked back at all the reviews and determined the S-10 never finished first or last, and was only a few scores away from the best. Buuuut, it never finshed last in the tests. Yup, I decided on the tweener - not the best, not the worst, and based on my current experience with Yamaha - no brainer.
I always find it interesting to read the personal comments from the editors. A lot of times they'll relate how this or that bike won, then add what they personally leaned toward or would buy with their own money. It's frequently not the bike that won.
jimyamaha
New Member
Well i read all the reveiws before getting my 2015 XT1200ZE , but they did not put me off. Why - i have only ever owned Yamahas for the last 24 years and have had no dramas and know the standard of bike i am getting. Coming from R1's i knew the power would be way less that i am used to but comfort would be way better. The electronic suspension i thought would be a waste of money but it is realy great and the addjustments make a difference. The wind protection again is way better than a R1 so i'm happy. The handling is surprisingly good etc etc
My point is only you know what you want from a bike not a journalist who gets payed tojump on and play then write some stuff before he gets to go to spain for a superbike launch etc
I have spent 24 on sports bikes but wnated to swap to a Tenere in my old age and yes another 30 BHP would be welcome , i'll just get on and use what there is. Its a great bike and gets me from A to B in just as much fun as an R1 just in a slightly different way.
My point is only you know what you want from a bike not a journalist who gets payed tojump on and play then write some stuff before he gets to go to spain for a superbike launch etc
I have spent 24 on sports bikes but wnated to swap to a Tenere in my old age and yes another 30 BHP would be welcome , i'll just get on and use what there is. Its a great bike and gets me from A to B in just as much fun as an R1 just in a slightly different way.
CW,
I have never gotten a spanking with such dignity! You are really good with the ruler. Very classy. ::012::
You might not know it, but I'm a PK (preachers kid) and I was NOT allowed to get into ANY trouble growing up. The pressure was intense! ???
Obviously, at nearly 60, I've recovered. But it's such a relief, even now, to find I, ME, have "crossed the line" and the world didn't come crashing down.
My dad is 83. I'm gonna BRAG to him that his 3rd child got in trouble. (There is a bunch of us offspring) He's mellowed a LOT. He'll be delighted. In fact, it'll make his day.
I have never gotten a spanking with such dignity! You are really good with the ruler. Very classy. ::012::
You might not know it, but I'm a PK (preachers kid) and I was NOT allowed to get into ANY trouble growing up. The pressure was intense! ???
Obviously, at nearly 60, I've recovered. But it's such a relief, even now, to find I, ME, have "crossed the line" and the world didn't come crashing down.
My dad is 83. I'm gonna BRAG to him that his 3rd child got in trouble. (There is a bunch of us offspring) He's mellowed a LOT. He'll be delighted. In fact, it'll make his day.
Checkswrecks said:
Ahhhh, now I get it! Preachers kid turns preacher at the pulpit of the ST! ::018::snakebitten said:
Some here claim the ST to be more reliable then a BMW. I follow several forums and from what I read I suspect the LC GS/GSA is at least as reliable as the ST.
Sure BMW has had reliability issue, mostly 2006-2009, but it seems they are now taking decisive action to sweep those old bones out of the closet and the LC units were designed with that in mind.
Yamaha has also had issue..... none of them are perfect.
I don't buy into the theory that magazines are more favorable to European bike because of advertising dollars. I do think magazines are favorable to bike with big HP, high tech do-dads, excellent handling, etc..... it gives them something to wright about. Seems to me the magazines have heaped piles of praise on the FZ/FJ-09, early FJR's, R1 with cross plane motor, Yamaha has done a lot of great things.
If the bike you're riding makes you smile you're riding the right bike! ::021::
Paul
frez
New Member
Feels like groundhog day.
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SilverBullet
Well-Known Member
::026:: The true source of BMW's numerous issues.... And that includes the 4 wheeler's too.
Mind you, Audi ain't much better - AUDI stands for Always Under Diagnostic Investigation...
Mind you, Audi ain't much better - AUDI stands for Always Under Diagnostic Investigation...
shrekonwheels
New Member
Your honor, I would like to present a Screen shot a couple months back of the GS Forum, I do not think I need to present one of this forum as we are all a part of it, the evidence speaks for itself.
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Hell, there is a brand new 2015 GSA that has to have it's motor replaced ..... look on the other big site. You can say what you want , there is absolutely No way the BMW is as reliable as the Tenere. Not even close.
And thus the ONLY real reason the Tenere is the platform I choose to make long-term investment in.
If I could remove the suspicion of torment from the equation, I would be doing my thing on the machine that is the de facto bike of this genre.
Or, if I could agree to the strategy of only owning fresh and warrantied samples. (irritating to even consider)
Drives me nuts. It should be the bike that it rightfully earned the branding\badge of.
It might be true that it is getting better. But press or no press, if and when it does become the most reliable and well built bike, it will be just as obvious as the Tenere is today.
If I could remove the suspicion of torment from the equation, I would be doing my thing on the machine that is the de facto bike of this genre.
Or, if I could agree to the strategy of only owning fresh and warrantied samples. (irritating to even consider)
Drives me nuts. It should be the bike that it rightfully earned the branding\badge of.
It might be true that it is getting better. But press or no press, if and when it does become the most reliable and well built bike, it will be just as obvious as the Tenere is today.
mrpete64
Member
Bikes today, like cars, are all good. It just boils down to hype. Bigger this, stronger that, etc. It is like stereo music. It is so good now can one "really" tell the difference between a pair of speakers that cost $85,000 or $5,000.
I love my 2014ES Tenere. Had a bunch of BMW's...nice bikes.
I am sure if the Tenere had 175 HP something else would not be "good enough." It sells bike magazines...and bikes. My attitude, at 68, is do what you think is best for you. If you want to ride naked and without a helmet...do it! For me life is too short to nit pick everything to death. Everything, bike and car wise, is so much better in 2015 than 1962...spend time enjoying it. Take an nice 6,000 mile bike trip. Your bike will be fine...even it only has 100 hp!!
Mr. Pete------>
aging hippie
I love my 2014ES Tenere. Had a bunch of BMW's...nice bikes.
I am sure if the Tenere had 175 HP something else would not be "good enough." It sells bike magazines...and bikes. My attitude, at 68, is do what you think is best for you. If you want to ride naked and without a helmet...do it! For me life is too short to nit pick everything to death. Everything, bike and car wise, is so much better in 2015 than 1962...spend time enjoying it. Take an nice 6,000 mile bike trip. Your bike will be fine...even it only has 100 hp!!
Mr. Pete------>
aging hippie
Hippies make so much sense when they get older. 
Don't sweat the petty stuff, but do pet the sweaty stuff!
Sure, ya gotta ride the one that makes ya smile but that wasn't the answer the op was after.
Paul
Paul