Why a Tenere?

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27 years old? Are you the youngest Tenerer?

Wise beyond years. Must be an old soul.
 

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Haha - if anyone counts, I was 26 when I took possession :D

Just love the DS crowd - no maligned attitudes/stigma attached to how you ride and a generally awesome group of people eager to help the FNG like me. I don't think my age realizes what they're missing just sticking to hardball roads when they're ripping by me on their crotch rockets...
 

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Karson said:
Haha - if anyone counts, I was 26 when I took possession :D

Just love the DS crowd - no maligned attitudes/stigma attached to how you ride and a generally awesome group of people eager to help the FNG like me. I don't think my age realizes what they're missing just sticking to hardball roads when they're ripping by me on their crotch rockets...
That's just a nice way of saying you hang with old coots. :)

Bet you can stay up later than most of us. That results in hearing lots of snoring.
Hope you and the misses aren't tenting in the war zone.
Mine doesn't ride with earplugs. But she sleeps with them!
 

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coastie said:
Damit... I'm old? I never knew this :-\

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I'm old, and I had the 23 year old at work just tell me how old. My non-gray coworker and me were trying to get her to guess our age. We're both 47 and exactly 1 month apart. She guess him for 42, then looked at me and guessed, "fifty.... .... ... eight?" ??? My wife loved that one. Took her a long time to stop laughing.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I'm old, and I had the 23 year old at work just tell me how old. My non-gray coworker and me were trying to get her to guess our age. We're both 47 and exactly 1 month apart. She guess him for 42, then looked at me and guessed, "fifty.... .... ... eight?" ??? My wife loved that one. Took her a long time to stop laughing.
Maybe she was just saying you looked more distinguished?

Just trying to make you feel better.
So, why do you look 5.......8?
 

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snakebitten said:
Maybe she was just saying you looked more distinguished?

Just trying to make you feel better.
So, why do you look 5.......8?
Best I can tell it's for two reasons. First, she's 23 and clueless. Second, she's 23.

If you force me I'll give a third. I've earned myself a lot of gray hair. I'm completely ignoring the time that I was 26 years old (no gray yet) and I had a sales guy look at me and say, "so what are you, about 43?"

Guess I've been distinguished looking most of my adult life. ::)
 

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Karson said:
Haha - if anyone counts, I was 26 when I took possession :D

I don't think my age realizes what they're missing just sticking to hardball roads when they're ripping by me on their crotch rockets...
When you are on a 450 lb bike with 180 hp you're not missing much, except for the scenery :D so they could care less. It's the people that ride crusiers (young and old) that have never ridden anything else that don't know what they're missing. Except for mopeds, crusiers are the lowest on the totem pole for what a motorcycle can do. 8) Crusier riders would be the best market for the Tenere :)
 

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scott123007 said:
When you are on a 450 lb bike with 180 hp you're not missing much, except for the scenery :D so they could care less. It's the people that ride crusiers (young and old) that have never ridden anything else that don't know what they're missing. Except for mopeds, crusiers are the lowest on the totem pole for what a motorcycle can do. 8) Crusier riders would be the best market for the Tenere :)
I have not owned a crusier but have had the unfortunate opportunity to ride a lot of them, and every time I do I think [what a pile]. with over 350,000 miles on bikes I would probably quit riding if crusiers were the only option.
As far as why a Tenere, with over 41,000 miles on mine I just can't wait to put on that next mile,,, The funnest bike I have ever riden!
I'm not that cool of a guy but when I'm on my Tenere I am the coolest guy in the world. I do not get that same feeling on my Wee or even my new WR250R. When I look over at my son on his 990R I think he is the coolest boy in the world. There is just some bikes that are cool , not many.
Oh and when I'm riding next to my daughter on her 1982 750 Maxum , she's pretty cool too.
 

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eemsreno said:
I'm not that cool of a guy but when I'm on my Tenere I am the coolest guy in the world. I do not get that same feeling on my Wee or even my new WR250R. When I look over at my son on his 990R I think he is the coolest boy in the world. There is just some bikes that are cool , not many.
Oh and when I'm riding next to my daughter on her 1982 750 Maxum , she's pretty cool too.
That is one of the coolest things that I have ever read! Good on ya! You certainly are a cool guy.
 

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why a Super Tenere'?

as there have been many reasons so far, i will simply add a little more.

i started off on a 2007 Yamaha FZ6. i rode that for one year and then bought a brand new 2009 Triumph Daytona. i loved that bike, but kept reading that there were few that made it passed 20k miles and the "character" that the bike had due it's known problems. after taking the Daytona out for a ride in October i almost low sided in mid-turn and decided that i would rather have a motorcycle that i could ride all year than a race replica as a primary and only motorcycle. i started my research.

of course i wanted the Ducati Multistrada at the top of the list. tied in second was the BMW 1200GS and the Yamaha Super Tenere'.

after reading about the cost of the Ducati services and time to repair i moved on to the very "charactered" BMW. between the cost and the "character" (ie: problems all over the board, but these things made you love the bike more allegedly) i moved on to researching the Tenere' more and more.

as the reviewers in the magazines will say: there is no "character" in this motorcycle. whatever you wish it to do it shall and with relative ease. the gearbox is smooth and flawless. the engine has good and solid pull all the way through. the clutch works as it should. there are NO problems with this bike (there were a few that complained about engine vibration, but there were VERY few). because it does everything and all with a VERY reliable reputation i suppose that this motorcycle is not for everyone. after all- reviewers are riding on somebody else's dime and they likely have multiple bikes to get their fix on.

for me this is currently my only motorcycle. this is all that i have. i need this to do all that i need and be reliable. and it does do all that i ask and it is absolutely reliable. a very fare comparison is that the Yamaha Super Tenere' is like my 2009 Toyota 4Runner. i trust it to do everything and then more, and i know that it will not fail for MANY years and MANY miles.

simply put: with a Yamaha Super Tenere' you can ::021:: ::014::
 

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I am strictly an on road rider, don't plan on venturing off road unless I am forced to. I decided to get an adventure style bike because of the all around performance combined with the comfort. I took demos on all of them at Americade the last few years and my knees loved the leg room of these types of bikes. My lower back does well with a neutral type riding position also. Now that I own a Tenere, as I suspected, the whole riding position allows me to ride it all day. I can't ride my XR1200 for any length of time, it is so uncomfortable compared to the Tenere. I've had all types of bikes, and Adventure bikes in general are by far the most compatable type of bike for my style of riding right now. I can do anything on it, it is not limited in any way for me. I would not even hesitate to take it to a track day. I hope this class of bike keeps growing stronger.

I chose the Tenere over the Triumph 800's because I like the reliability of Japanese motorcycles, have worked on them all my life, and I also thought it was a better bike, worth the extra money. KTM's were awesome to ride, but no dealers anywhere, no support, and just not sure of how well they hold up. Then there's the BMW's. I've belonged to a BMW club for the last 15 years, and I will never buy a modern BMW of any kind.

I'd buy and old airhead if the right one came along, but that's about it.

Buy a Tenere, you won't regret it.
 

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Seems many of us did not start with the Tenere at the top of the list.

The Multistrada, GS and Triumphs all seem a bit more exotic and have some great USP's. I think the BMW is still the leader in most areas, I loved the elast of the Air Cooled models, the Multistrada is an awesome bit of kit and the Triumph sort of fills the middle ground.

Most seem to have the Tenere on the B-List, but soon exclude the MTS because it is a Ducati, or possibly because it is mental and will get them banned, and I think most of us really do prefer the shaft drive, I am susrprised how many do not go for the middle ground of the Triumph, although in the UK they do, partly patriotism and partly because they're a clear £2k cheaper than the Yamaha - and suit the hordes of sportsbike refugees heading across to ADV land. I am sure the BMW loses most sales due to the amount of issues they have had and just seem unable to resolve, those of us who have had one all seem to have a sad tale to tell.

The Yamaha has no USP, it is not the fastest, or the best handling, or the best looking, or the most exclusive. I think most of us have gone to ride one and find it seems pretty good at everything, and bad at nothing, ticks all of the boxes for all of the uses we are ever likely to have for a motorcycle, and we have faith in it not to break down or cost a fortune to maintain.

Everyone seems to agree it gets better over time, as you realise despite buying the bike "you did not really want" it is turning out to be the best bike you have ever owned, the lack of a USP is more than made up for by a total lack of any really noteworthy flaws (although if Mr Yamaha thinks I am not gonna moan about the barely noteworthy he is very much mistaken as most of them would cost next to bugger all to resolve)

Gotta be a hard bike to market for Yamaha as they can only really preach to the converted, the slogan "The best bike you've never wanted" probably won't send buyers flocking down to the nearest Yamaha dealer, I can see this bike always being a slow seller, and being bought by the more discerning buyer who prefer quality and reliability of hype and marketing BS.
 

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::026:: to Rasher's response. I also looked at all of the ADV top bikes before buying the Tenere. The selling point was reliability and dealer network. I have owned Yamaha's all of my life and felt compelled to really take a hard look at the Tenere. The more I studied the more I fell in love with it. It does everything so well and really nothing terribly bad. It came with most things that others had as options i.e. handguards and such... There are so many farkles available for it that you can do so much with it to make it your own. Take a hard look and ride one...
 

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Also to Rashers post.......

Although I agree that the Tenere did not come out of the gates charging in sales, and so is not considered a big seller, but I believe if Yamaha has the fortitude to just keep delivering them, it just might grow to be a better seller than it is now.

Big if, I realize. But this bike holds up to lonnnnng term scrutiny. It won't be a secret forever.
 

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scott123007 said:
All things considered, the Tenere is about 20hp short of nirvana.
I don't need that additional 20 off-road. But I would welcome a 4th mode that provided it. Would be nice in West Texas with the sweet speed limits. Fully loaded 2-up with another 20 ponies at 85mph?
 

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Like me, that 20 extra ponies would be spent with cash in some local municipalities coffers.... ::015:: ::022::
 

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snakebitten said:
I don't need that additional 20 off-road. But I would welcome a 4th mode that provided it. Would be nice in West Texas with the sweet speed limits. Fully loaded 2-up with another 20 ponies at 85mph?
Unless they went VVT and did some Intake tube adjustment I don't think they will get the spread. It's not all electronics, at some point you have to have more air in chambers and that has a lot to do with the mechanical bits. Knowing YAMAHA's history I would say they COULD do something really interesting assuming people would pony up the cash., which is where it tends to fall down for them. That would be more weight and complexity. Expect cruise control first.

If you remember, they did talk to ohlins about the active suspension. It wasn't done. Maybe the engineers decided that a few DES errors were not a proposition at this point. Maybe the mean bean counters had a tight fist on a first release, high risk bike especially given the economic climate at the time. My bet is they put the extra effort into more safety related features like and ABS/ UBS that actually works off road. That was their priority at the time. So they have gone the route of engineering things that work rather than specs. Would it have been easier for them to come up with a bunch of half assed attempts and installed off swithches and put more half thought out "features" on the bike? Probably. Would it have been the right thing to do? That depends on what your priorities in life is I suppose.

As far as sales are concerned it seems to me that they are following a pretty similar path to the Stroms.
If anyone remembers they were off to a reasonable start, had a few hiccups with clutch chudder, sales tanked, 650 was released, the Englidh press didn't rate them that well but others had more praise, slowly the reliability and economy of the bike earned a reputation sales kept ticking up and before you know it after 10 years they were OK with the English press. Just like your standard overnight success. :D
So what the future holds I don't know, but at this point I think they have a well thought out all round bike and that extra 20 HP? If it was just a 20% torque increase gained by getting better efficiency, without a ping inducing compression ratio then yes. If it meant loosing the low down grunt then no.

They could definitely get rid of the YCCT map in the first three gears though in Sports mode and stick cruise control on it. I would much prefer they did and incremental "fix" on a few things than turn it into a jacked up street bike. There are enough of them out there all ready.
 

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scott123007 said:
All things considered, the Tenere is about 20hp short of nirvana.
I think the Arrow headers with any slip-on exhaust will give you close to 10 HP and lop off 10 lbs. The other 10 HP may be hiding in the head if you gotta, wanna, needa, have a whole lot of horspower! The Clutch Mod does it for me on the street and T-Mode has plenty of power for offroad use.

The OP caved on page 2 so more choir preachin'... but this bike continues to bring a smile to my face after nearly 20,000 miles. Someone said it best earlier, that it just gets out of the way so you can enjoy the ride. No BS, just what you need and a few extras. Simple. Solid. Serviceable, if needed. The S10 is the true Triple threat... dirty, sporty and tour (y) all in one asymmetric, bug-eyed black beauty. Shaving 50lbs off the machine is probably the only thing Yamaha could do to make the S10 significantly better than it already is but that isn't going to happen so if I could have any one thing improved, it would be better fuel economy.
 
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