Which Super Tenere would you buy?

[Nomad Lad]

Hi Everyone,

New member here, already posted over on the intro page.

I'm hoping you guys can help me decide between 3 bikes I'm looking at.

The purpose of the bike will be touring, camping, commuting, light off road and two up day trips. I have a Tenere 700 for my more serious off road exploits.

1. 2014 (Newer Model) Super Tenere with electronic suspension, 76,000km, €6750
2. 2014 (Older Model) Super Tenere 35,000km, €7250
3. 2014 (Older Model) Super Tenere World Crosser 63,000km €6400

For the sake of simplicity, lets assume that all of the above have good service history and are stock, no accessories.

Is it worth going for the newer model albeit with higher mileage, or is it better going for the older model with lower mileage but paying the premium, or is it better to go for the older, higher mileage, dolled up model.

Is the electronic suspension adjustment on the newer model and other minor updates worth considering the higher mileage model?

EDIT: Just realised the newer model has cruise control… I’m pretty fond of cruise control!

Let me know what you guys think.

Cheers,

D

 

[scott123007]

All 2014 and up models should have cruise control, at least in the USA anyway. Electronic suspension is nice, and those that have it swear by it. I would not be worried by the mileage if the bike has been properly maintained. These bikes are good for at least 400,000 km.

 

[Nomad Lad]

I've been doing a bit if reading in the forum, especially about some guys having a CCT issue with the earlier model, is this enough of a 'thing' to consider going for the newer

All 2014 and up models should have cruise control, at least in the USA anyway. Electronic suspension is nice, and those that have it swear by it. I would not be worried by the mileage if the bike has been properly maintained. These bikes are good for at least 400,000 km.

Thanks Scott, I think with a lot of other bikes I would be slightly deterred by higher mileage but the Super Tenere has a great reputation for reliability, especially with such an underworked engine.

 

[Boris]

Gen2 is easily identified by the different dash. I have a Gen1 bike and I’d suggest going for a Gen2 bike. The CCT and clutch baskets were upgraded for Gen2 and along with cruise, ES and likely factory heated grips make for a more refined riding experience.

If you’re unfortunate to get a Gen1 with a vibey clutch basket, it’ll ruin your enjoyment.

 

[bimota]

i wouldn,t like to say without seeing the bikes in picture and its history to be honest the info above not enough for
me to make that call

rob

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . Let me know what you guys think. . . .

I would go with the E-suspension bike. Over here it's referred to as a Gen II ES. If the others don't have cruise, they're going to be Gen I. I'm assuming that y'alls registration process is what's making them all 2014s, because like scott said, all true '14s will have cruise.

Boris's advice is spot on.

 

[HeliMark]

I would go for the newer model (Gen 2) for the factory built in cruise control, and the minor refinements to the engine. The clutch basket vibration on the Gen 1's bothered some, but not all, and was not a reliability issue. Replacing a Gen 1 clutch basket to a Gen 2 basket is easy, and is a straight swap, no mods. Although I do not currently have a bike with an electronic suspension, I have had one in the past and loved it, I would not hesitate to get one on my next bike if available. The ES on the Yamaha has proven to be reliable.

The mileage on the bikes, if they are maintained properly is nothing. Both generations of the bike is known to go over 320,000km with just normal maintenance.

 

[Boris]

I would go for the newer model (Gen 2) for the factory built in cruise control, and the minor refinements to the engine. The clutch basket vibration on the Gen 1's bothered some, but not all, and was not a reliability issue. Replacing a Gen 1 clutch basket to a Gen 2 basket is easy, and is a straight swap, no mods. Although I do not currently have a bike with an electronic suspension, I have had one in the past and loved it, I would not hesitate to get one on my next bike if available. The ES on the Yamaha has proven to be reliable.

The mileage on the bikes, if they are maintained properly is nothing. Both generations of the bike is known to go over 320,000km with just normal maintenance.

Agree, the clutch basket is NOT a reliability issue. However, the replacement part is £857 in the UK! Probably about €1020 in France. Both much much more expensive than in the US. Our cost equivalent in USD is roughly $1100. At a guess I reckon the same part in the US is $450?

 

[WJBertrand]

As they are all 2014 models, the older vs. newer descriptions are confusing to me. Do all of them have the rectangular dash with the digital tachometer?

As mentioned above, all 2014 and later models have CC standard. The ES model will also have heated grips standard. At least that’s how they’re offered in the US.


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[VRODE]

As others have said, go for the newer model with cruise. As far as the ES model, I feel it works well if you are under 250 lbs. YRMV
Also, the ES model comes with heated grips (here in the states) Mileage is not an issue. I’d notice the shape the bike is in and how it’s been maintained.

 

[iliadz]

Factory cruise control is SO nice. My 2012 had aftermarket, it sucked. My current bike has the factory, and it's so nice and easy to deal with. As Vrode mentioned, heated grips go a long long way as well. I thought long and hard about buying an older model that would have for sure been a lot less expensive, ultimately paid more to get features like that and electronic suspension. I don't regret it.

 

[Longdog Cymru]

Welcome Nomad, I would go for the Gen 2, I think the later model, even with the extra mileage, is worth going for.

 

[Nomad Lad]

Brilliant, thanks everyone for the really helpful and specific advice.

There's a pretty strong consensus for me to go for the newer model, I'm glad to hear it too as that's what I was hoping for.

I know the mileage is still very little for the Super Tenere if it has been well looked after.

Sorry for the confusion over the model year, basically the 3 bikes I'm looking at were all registered in 2014, but two were older Gen 1 models, probably left over dealer stock before the new model, Gen 2, came out.

Here's a pic of the one I'm hoping I'll buy.

 

[Sierra1]

As they are all 2014 models, the older vs. newer descriptions are confusing to me. . . . .

They go by registration year more than model year. If it sits around for a few years, and then gets registered, that's what year the bike is.

 

[WJBertrand]

They go by registration year more than model year. If it sits around for a few years, and then gets registered, that's what year the bike is.

That's confusing because the technical and feature differences are by model year (manufacturer) not year of registration. Given that information and the other two are indeed 1gen models then it's a no-brainer to go for the 2nd gen with ES in this case.

 

[lund]

Manufactures will have what is called EARLY release. This is common practice in the auto industry and especially power sports.
Yes, you can have a 2014, known as a generation 1, with the specs of a 2015 gen 2. It would had been an early release of actually a gen 2.
These would had been released later in that year, usually mid season in limited numbers. AND registered as a 2014 model.

 

[Sierra1]

IIRC, the '64/'65 Mustang was like that. But I haven't heard that associated with the Tenere. And there's been plenty of guys from the UK speaking of their registration disparities.

 

[Jdubco]

You can get cruise for 500aud from mcccruise which also has a speedo correction (stock s10s are about 7 mph off at hwy speed) so don't let stock cc be the sole reason to get one over the other, and heated grips from oxford are a fairly cheap upgrade, and better than the oem option, ES is not needed, you have a knob for the rear and takes maybe a minute to do the front with a wrench. Personally, id get the worldcrosser out of the 3.

clutch basket is a nice upgrade but you should be able to find one for a more reasonable price than the 1k+ others are stating.

 

[lund]

You can get cruise for 500aud from mcccruise which also has a speedo correction (stock s10s are about 7 mph off at hwy speed) so don't let stock cc be the sole reason to get one over the other, and heated grips from oxford are a fairly cheap upgrade, and better than the oem option, ES is not needed, you have a knob for the rear and takes maybe a minute to do the front with a wrench. Personally, id get the worldcrosser out of the 3.

clutch basket is a nice upgrade but you should be able to find one for a more reasonable price than the 1k+ others are stating.

Curious, is there really any real difference between the world crosser and the non world crosser other then plastics and a cheesy skid?
Just asking. Because in reality it was just a great marketing scheme on a model package.

 

[Jdubco]

Curious, is there really any real difference between the world crosser and the non world crosser other then plastics and a cheesy skid?
Just asking. Because in reality it was just a great marketing scheme on a model package.

Should have the carbon fiber lower side panels, brake and driveshaft protectors, frame protectors, fork guards, skid plate, and the stickers

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