What TenereGUY has been up too

[SpudBob]

You ever do something that a week ago you never would have even thought about doing? Well, I did it and I'm still in shock but I'm happy with the result.
My oldest daughter married a Dairy Farmer and they now have 4 kids in 5 years. Struggling everyday and making it. My daughter has wanted a 6 seater UTV for several years after having the twins. She can't take the kids out on the farm very easily or down to the creek to play. I was just looking at some used ones and thinking I can talk to her hubby and see if he wanted an interest free loan for one. He said no. I kept thinking on what a blessing it would be for her as she is up to her eyeballs trying to keep those young kids busy during the whole day. So I started looking at some and found a very nice lightly used 2009 Polaris Ranger 700 and I told my wife that I was going look at it 4 hrs away. Do you want to go with me and we can take the back roads in western Wisconsin to LaCrosse? So I hooked up a trailer and we had an enjoyable drive for about two hours. Halfway there I decided to visit a big Powersports dealer to see what they had. No used ones but the sales guy used to be a tech and he warned me not to buy a 700 ranger. Said I'll most likely be replacing the engine in 1000 miles! That concerned me. But I said I would come look at it. I started on my way but 1 mile outside of town I pulled over and turned around as I had called my home dealer. One of the techs had been a Polaris tech for 6 years. I asked his opinion and he strongly warned me off of a 700. I guess it is a known bad engine. So I headed home. Stopped at the big dealer and looked at a new Kawasaki Mule and asked a few questions. Then continued home. I had to pass the home dealer on the way home so I stopped in. For the last 2 hrs I was thinking what a blessing it would be for their family. I looked at the Mules. Good machines but you had to convert back and forth from a 3 to a 6 seater and lose most of the bed. Started looking at the new Pioneer 1000-6. I had done some research on prices. Told them what I could buy one for 5 hrs away. Cost 3 to 500 in fuel. I'd give them the fuel cost above said price. They came close enough as they help me all the time and I buy a lot of parts that they price match at internet prices.
I bought it. Then ordered aftermarket front and rear windshield and a roof. My Mom passed a year and a half ago. I have an inheritance I had squirrled away for a nice shop. I can take the difference out of some investments in the future but I know that this would make an immediate impact on their lives. I worked 60 to 72 hrs a week for years and now I am in a position to do this. They need it now and by the time they might be able to afford it they wouldn't need it and I remember having 4 kids under 5 on our property and my wife going crazy. So... much to my surprise I did it... as I was putting it in my box trailer I couldn't help but think... I could buy some nice bike and accessories for me! What am I doing? But her reaction Christmas afternoon was worth every penny. I haven't shared this with anyone but for some reason I thought most of you would understand.
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Wow Guy! Been off the forum for a bit so I thought Id see what you were up to. First what a blessing you are to your family. You did the right thing by avoiding Polaris as people who live here have problems with them, not just the 700's, ALL THE TIME. The Honda is a much better option-as YOU know being a multi Honda owner. Now I know this is a Yamahoppy page so I wont talk "RED" too much. Suffice it to say I like all the Japan offerings. My Shop has em all even a Kawasaki! About the money, you know you cant take it with you and you dont get a trailer to pull into the Kingdom so you did the right thing IMO!

 

[TenereGUY]

For the last week it has been great weather for February. In the 40's. Each day I want to get out into the garage... but each day I spend my time car shopping or educating myself on different models. I think we have narrowed it down and have a solution. What a pain. Wasted 7 hrs today driving for a car and it wasn't as nice as represented. Had two I was ready to put money down on and 1 sold 25 minutes before I got there and another one sold the day before. It is crazy!!! I just want to get some bike maintenance done!
And find a car!

 

[TenereGUY]

Put it on the lift! Now to dig in for a clean and lube session. May change the tires for the Georgia trip March 26th and put the bigger tank on... Wymbly1971 is coming down from Ontario and then we meet up with a friend in Northern Georgia.
I've been wanting to get it this far for some time. Car shopping all done, tools squared away. Now for some bike TLC... the whole corral needs things done.

 

[TenereGUY]

It has begun...
Started to clean the windshield then decided to take it off. Screws had white corrosion on them from all the Calcium Chloride on the Haul Road up to Prudhoe Bay. This made me want to disassemble the front some more. Found a loose button head machine screw that held the windshield mount. Started working on getting the left panel off. I did it but then I went to the right side panel and couldn't get it off at all. I do believe the bars moved in ever so slightly when my friend dropped it when we were riding in PA last fall. It was wet gravel/dirt. He stopped on a sloped piece of ground. I went 20 ft further on the AT and parked on level ground. As I was getting off I heard grunts through my helmet comms. I turned around and the bike was on its side towards the down hill side. So it fell a bit more than 90°. I could barely get the side panel off before. Now it won't go. So I removed the upper crash bars. Then removed the tank. Worked on removing the gas cap mechanism. Did you know only 3 of those screws around the cap perimeter hold the cap down???!! Two were for looks only. Then I poured 2 gallons of gas out. Set the tank upside down and removed all the screws from the fuel pump. Before removing them I numbered each screw hole on the tank then matching numbers on the assembly and aluminum collar. Then after all screws were removed I lifted the pump assembly about 1/2 way out and couldn't get it out any further. I twisted and turned it every which way. No luck... so I pulled out the shop manual to the section 7-4. Just said to do what I had been trying to do. There is a piece of plastic the protrudes out which stops it from coming out! I was tempted to snip it off... but I resisted the urge. Thank goodness I did. That piece of plastic is used to stop the float on the sending unit. So what to do... I went in and started searching on this forum. Found some things from back in 2012 that answered the question. Went back out and eventually saw where the sending unit was latched onto the pump. Got a thin screwdriver and was able to unlatch it and then also unplugged the sending unit. Took the pump out whe holding on to the sending unit plug. Took that out as soon as the pump was out. Snapped it back on and plugged it in. Went in the new 8 gallon tank with a little resistance but you don't have to separate them when putting it in the tank. After that I removed the air filter. It was a bit dirty and I also had more engine oil around the base of the intake snorkels... I do believe that was because I did a lot of WOT riding on the Alaska trip. Removed the air filter and cleaned it. Will re-oil it tomorrow after it dries out. The bike is so dirty I think I will pressure wash it lightly while all the panels and tank are off. I was surprised to see dirt/Mud so far up the intake air duct! Cleaned everything on the air box except the intake part so you can see it. Is that common or was Alaska slop that bad!??
Will continue to clean and check everything tomorrow. Supposed to be 60 to 70°F the next couple of days!

Trying to show the fil. On the screen to do a b4 and after.




The screws with corrosionon them.

This is the relay I put in when installing the Clearwater lights. I will have to move it as I believe if it is moved I will still be able to remove the right upper panel .
Dirty side of the filter. Bime was still running great. No dust or dirt residue on the downstream side of the filter in the air box.

Downstreamside of filter

I cleaned up some dirt but I couldn't believe that the intake duct was so dirty with dried muddy residue.

 

[TenereGUY]

Only three screws actually hold the cap on. There is one you have to access by opening the cap before you can remove it. Took me a minute to figure that out.



Fighting that plastic protrusion. Hopefully you can see it in the next few pics.

Sending unit protrusion

This is the latch you have to disengage. Just make sure it is secured properly before you put the unit back in the tank.

All done. Cap screws are supposed to be 2.9#. I did 3# nothing to me what to torque the gas cap screws to so I did those to 3# too.

 

[Boris]

That air filter is like a photo of a great trip.

 

[Cycledude]

Will be interesting to see how the new larger tank works out, the extra gas would be nice but it would be to high up and heavy for me.
Whats the black round thing sitting on the table lift near the rear tire ?

 

[TenereGUY]

Will be interesting to see how the new larger tank works out, the extra gas would be nice but it would be to high up and heavy for me.
Whats the black round thing sitting on the table lift near the rear tire ?

It took me a bit to figure out what picture and what black round thing you were talking about.
That is a permanent metal fixture that is integral to the lift. I haven't payed attention to it in such a long time I'd have to go look again. For now I believe it is where you can adjust something. I'll look later today.
Yes, we will see how those two Xtra gallons will ride. If on a long hwy run I can fill it full. If going where conditions could be questionable I don't have to fill it all the way. I discovered an answer to a question I had 2 days ago while looking at the sending unit. The sending unit has an upper stop so it will not go any higher. So the Xtra 2 gallons SHOULD make my fuel gage just stay on the full range longer and act normal as the tank empties. With the way the bike will be rigged I will carry 8 gallons in the main tank and two in the rear gas can. So no fuel worries... even for my KTM riding buddies as I am willing to share. It might cost them a price of a meal and the gas replaced... but that's much better than pushing! Hahaha

 

[SpudBob]

That air filter is like a photo of a great trip.

Not a big fan of gauze filters. Back in my Dez racing days many a motor toasted by dirt getting by. There fine for road work but I would never trust one for offroad "dusty" escapades. Out this way we get areas of powdery silty crap that's very, very fine. I. currently have a stock paper one but am thinking an oiled Foam "Uni" type. The aussie model ST's came stock with them. They are still available on EBay. I also spoke dirrectly to Uni and they have Pod filters, like the Yamaha/Uni part ones that would work too.

 

[SpudBob]

Yamaha Genuine Uni Air Filter 23P-14451-UF-01 XT1200Z Super Tenere 1200 | eBay

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These! The only problem I see with them is these are 10 Y.O. N.O.S. and I'd just buy the pods new from Uni here in The U.S. I know that foam filters do have a shelf life.

 

[Mad_Matt]

Yamaha Genuine Uni Air Filter 23P-14451-UF-01 XT1200Z Super Tenere 1200 | eBay

XT1200Z - INTAKE. XT1200Z (TENERE 1200) - INTAKE. Yamaha Uni Air Filter 23P-14451-UF-01. Yamaha - 2020. Yamaha - 2019. Yamaha - 2017. Yamaha - 2016. Yamaha - 2015.

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These! The only problem I see with them is these are 10 Y.O. N.O.S. and I'd just buy the pods new from Uni here in The U.S. I know that foam filters do have a shelf life.

Do you have a link to the Unifilter pods?

 

[SpudBob]

What I did was call Uni in Ca. ,IIRC, and talk to one of the tech guys. I asked about the Longevity of the filters being pre oiled like the ones in the link I posted.He said 10 years, which IIRC was when these were spec'd in OZ, was a bit long and they do break down. I have foam filters on ALL my dirt bikes and they do,Indeed, breakdown after a few years and numerous cleanings. He looked up the specs and said they have the same size pods available, new, that are a universal application. I didnt get a item number as I had just replaced my stock paper filter shortly before that. I though about running both, so as to have a prefilter, but didnt know how it might affect fueling.

 

[TenereGUY]

I saw those Uni Filters in a few pics of Aussie bikes and wondered if they were stock. I have uni foam/oil filters on my kids dirt bikes. One reason I took that filter shot is because many told me on this forum to not use a K&N. I did as Ihave beenusingthem since the 80’s. It was plenty dusty on the haul road until it rained going over the mountains. I saw no evidence of dust/dirt penetration to the clean side and I was really looking for it.
Those Uni filters are also very good.

 

[SpudBob]

I saw those Uni Filters in a few pics of Aussie bikes and wondered if they were stock. I have uni foam/oil filters on my kids dirt bikes. One reason I took that filter shot is because many told me on this forum to not use a K&N. I did as Ihave beenusingthem since the 80’s. It was plenty dusty on the haul road until it rained going over the mountains. I saw no evidence of dust/dirt penetration to the clean side and I was really looking for it.
Those Uni filters are also very good.

Im not saying that Gauze filters dont work. They are great for road/track bikes and flow air well and most track road bikes use them. When they came out in the early 70's many offroad racers ran them for a SHORT time. I just know of many and I mean many instances with offroad cars/bikes where they did not protect the intakes as well as foam or paper and it lead to premature failure. You will NEVER see a gauze filter on a dirt race bike or car either these days. The main problem being the dirt that is kicked up by cars/bikes in front of you. Sometimes the dust is so bad you cannot see 25 feet in front of you!!! I have personal experience rear ending race cars that had slowed on a course in very dusty conditions only to have them appear and with no place to avoid them. Again NOT the conditions that you would see dual sporting but dust kills!!! Many diesel truck tuners dont run them offroad either. K&N used to say that their filters worked better when slightly dirty and I always found that strange. I DO know that in OZ the bikes originally were spec'd with the stock paper elements and then sometime later they switched to the Uni's. I dont know if that's till a thing there.

 

[TenereGUY]

Im not saying that Gauze filters dont work. They are great for road/track bikes and flow air well and most track road bikes use them. When they came out in the early 70's many offroad racers ran them for a SHORT time. I just know of many and I mean many instances with offroad cars/bikes where they did not protect the intakes as well as foam or paper and it lead to premature failure. You will NEVER see a gauze filter on a dirt race bike or car either these days. The main problem being the dirt that is kicked up by cars/bikes in front of you. Sometimes the dust is so bad you cannot see 25 feet in front of you!!! I have personal experience rear ending race cars that had slowed on a course in very dusty conditions only to have them appear and with no place to avoid them. Again NOT the conditions that you would see dual sporting but dust kills!!! Many diesel truck tuners dont run them offroad either. K&N used to say that their filters worked better when slightly dirty and I always found that strange. I DO know that in OZ the bikes originally were spec'd with the stock paper elements and then sometime later they switched to the Uni's. I dont know if that's till a thing there.

We saw dusty conditions like that on the haul road. Passing a semi or two specifically comes to mind. But even following riders there was dust aplenty. Sometimes we spread out to avoid it or swapped out leaders to take breaks from the dust. I do see a dirt track where Motocross riders pack in and the dust is so bad that I wouldn't want to ride in the crowded condition. Even ATV trails are so dusty and group riding would not be enjoyable but people do it.

 

[Cycledude]

Tenere Guy I rode pretty much the same roads you did on our Prudehoe bay trip last summer, I used the stock Yamaha air filter, the outside of the filter was was very dirty but the inside of the airbox was perfectly clean, there was a little oil in the bottom of the airbox but that’s perfectly normal. I also used that same air filter for our trip to Tuktoyaktuk the year before.

 

[SpudBob]

Air Filters/ oil filters/oil/ coolant/brake fluid etc are all personal choices. There are many great examples of these. Ive had BMC/K&N's on my my Vehicles that I operate on road mostly. I have one in my 4Runner but only in Winter. In Summer I put a stock paper filter back in. Thats just me.I will not use a gauze filter in dusty conditions! I DO know of instances in the 70's and 80's, with Offroad cars/Bikes, and even more recently with Diesel Truck builders where Gauze filters have failed allowing fine dust into the motor and lead to premature failure. Proper care of any filter that utilizes oil as a part of the system of filtration is obviously key and neglected filters of any type are bad. We are captains of our own ships!

 

[TenereGUY]

We went through this discussion. Use what you want. I use K&N. Due to the prior discussion when I said I was going to use a K&N filter and the storm it brewed up... all I was doing was reporting my results for members to see. I never said any other filter was not as good. It is nice to know that Cycledude and I rode the same trip/conditions and the results were the same. Let us close this filter discussion.

 

[TenereGUY]

Now for today... got out in the garage and was slowly cleaning and putting the front together. I had just moved to putting the new 8 Gallon tank on when the new forum member Want2 rode into the driveway. We had a nice chat. He wanted a new bike and happened into a dealer he had never known existed and sat on all the bikes. He got to the S10 and almost didn't sit on it because he thought it would be to tall. He went ahead and sat on it and decided to buy it. He was out on gravel roads today and had a lot of fun. I looked at my new tank and realized it didn't fit right just as Want2 pulled in. Argh... I gotta make a bracket! During our conversation that problem kept bothering me in the back of my head... until I realized... you idiot, you need to take off the brackets from the old tank. Want2 and I laughed and he said goodbye and I swapped out the brackets to the new tank. It didn't want to fall into place. I got one tab over and went to the other side and pulled out on the tab slightly and it went down and bolted up!!! They used larger diameter outlet tubes for the vent and filler cap drain. Had to go get some bigger rubber hose and threaded it down the left side of the engine. Both fit in the holders. Put together the left panels (inner/outer) and got it on without moving the lower AltRider crash bars. I have two bolts that are giving me trouble threading in... just like they always do. I cursed the engineers or bean counters for not putting 1/4 turn screws on the left side too! While the panels were off I used some cardboard as a shield and sprayed my crash bars where the powder coat had been scrapped off when my buddy dropped it. So all black again. Does it match perfectly? No, but close enough!! I'll continue to clean off as much of that Alaskan mud with its Calcium Chloride as I go. Pressure washed it yesterday.

Starting to disassemble. I pressure washed it and was able to get a lot more with the panels and tank off. I was happy to wash down the radiator as it had muck residue on it.

The relay for the Clearwater lights that's in the way of panel removal.

Where it is now tucked and out of the way.

I lost a mounting screw somewhere on the Alaskan trip. While disassembling the windshield mount I found another one loose. These are low torque screws. I didn't want anymore backing out. So I put a split/lock washer on all 4 as I was putting them back.
This is the result.

Missing the mounting bracket... duh!
All good now.

New 8 gallon tank installed. I may have to swap out the Helibar setbacks for the Rox Risers to ensure clearance. I really want to keep the Helibar setbacks though.
More fun tomorrow... but I will have to turn the heater on as the 72° weather will be replaced with 20 degree weather! Took the Wing out today when I had to run to Rockford for the tubing.

 

[SkunkWorks]

You'll definitely be riding a Camel now!
The color match looks great.