What happened to the Alu-Rack?

[Venture]

Hey Kev, what happened to the Alu-rack offering for the S10? I see now it's a "Steel-rack":

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/7019/821/

It doesn't look like this rack supports the 3-hole quick disconnect system that the alu-rack had. What is the logic here behind the change?

 

[Mellow]

I was wondering that when I was looking for pics of the rack to post and posted mine instead:

New one

Here's the deal though... looking at the new one, it has the holes in it for the Givi kit without the adapter plate, they sell the rear 'prongs' front clip thing and 4 rubber bumpers separately so this would remove the need for the adapter plate, for givi anyway.

 

[Venture]

Here's the deal though... looking at the new one, it has the holes in it for the Givi kit without the adapter plate, they sell the rear 'prongs' front clip thing and 4 rubber bumpers separately so this would remove the need for the adapter plate, for givi anyway.

Not so sure, they are still showing additional adapter kits required for Givi, Pelican, and Trax.

 

[Mellow]

Not so sure, they are still showing additional adapter kits required for Givi, Pelican, and Trax.

Yes, but if you click on the links below where they show the givi kit, one of them is just the attachment points for that givi monokey boxes. I never had that option or had the additional holes for that. It's a 50/50 thing... the adapter plate made it easy to remove and have a flat surface again, without that, you'll have the givi points sticking up. Just a different way to do the same thing. The adapter plate does offer an additional failure point so I can see advantages both ways.

 

[Venture]

While we're talking about racks...

Hey Kev, how comes TT/SW-Motech are not offering a rear seat rack (replaces the rear seat) like Touratech?

 

[keeponriding]

What is the advantage of not using the stock rack, under the pillon?

That's what I use...

 

[terrysig]

No answer to this yet?

I'm looking for options to mount the Holan topbox and one is to use the SW luggage rack....with the pelican kit AND the pelican quick adapter plate mounted to the Holan topbox?

But thats getting into touratech land on price. Holan box $300 + SW rack $150 + $35 pelican mount + $110 pelican quick mount adapter = $600!!!! Add in all the shipping and price the same or nearly

Ok so maybe bolting the darn thing to the OEM rack with wing nuts and locking caps isn't such a bad idea

Any other Holan fans consiering this?

Liked the altrider luggage rack because you can get it in raven but the attachment of the Holan looks doubtful?

 

[dcstrom]

Z06 and I have been working on this problem, I just-about-almost-completed my installation of the Gobi topox last weekend. Pics soon. But we used variations of these;

Dave used this one

and I used this

You can mount these parallel and slide the topbox onto it... you get the drift. Will have some pics of mine soon. Not sure, but I may have been better using the lighter track - it's lower profile and probably a neater result. You can see the height marked on the drawing - but, did I ever mention I hate the imperial measurement system? One drawing has the height at .375", and the other is 5/8". Jeeeeezzze either go all metric or not, but don't go HALF metric. ::005::

http://www.ptreeusa.com/ttrackproducts.htm#1033

Trevor

No answer to this yet?

I'm looking for options to mount the Holan topbox and one is to use the SW luggage rack....with the pelican kit AND the pelican quick adapter plate mounted to the Holan topbox?

But thats getting into touratech land on price. Holan box $300 + SW rack $150 + $35 pelican mount + $110 pelican quick mount adapter = $600!!!! Add in all the shipping and price the same or nearly

Ok so maybe bolting the darn thing to the OEM rack with wing nuts and locking caps isn't such a bad idea

Any other Holan fans consiering this?

Liked the altrider luggage rack because you can get it in raven but the attachment of the Holan looks doubtful?

 

[elizilla]

Z06 and I have been working on this problem, I just-about-almost-completed my installation of the Gobi topox last weekend. Pics soon. But we used variations of these;

Trevor, that is awesome. I would have loved to have that track when I built a sliding topcase carrier for the NT. I'm tempted to order some now just to have it, even though I'm not currently building anything! Thanks for the pointer!

 

[dcstrom]

Trevor, that is awesome. I would have loved to have that track when I built a sliding topcase carrier for the NT. I'm tempted to order some now just to have it, even though I'm not currently building anything! Thanks for the pointer!

I can't take the credit, mostly Dave's ideas - coming out of this thread.
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=3403.msg60215

I'll be updating soon with pics of what the final setup looks like.

BTW if anyone's interested I have one of Dave's CF covers that I didn't end up using - only because I'll be travelling an want to keep the option of reinstating the pillion seat if necessary. This means keeping the stock plastic luggage tray.

Trevor

 

[EricV]

Z06 and I have been working on this problem, I just-about-almost-completed my installation of the Gobi topox last weekend. Pics soon. But we used variations of these;
<snip>
but, did I ever mention I hate the imperial measurement system? One drawing has the height at .375", and the other is 5/8". Jeeeeezzze either go all metric or not, but don't go HALF metric. ::005::

Interesting solution. I look forward to seeing the pics. BTW... .375" is 'imperial' decimal and 5/8" is 'imperial' fractional, neither are metric. ;D And yeah, it's annoying when sites don't pick one measurement method and be consistent with it's use.

If it helps, 1.0 mm is .040". And 5÷8=.625. All you need to do to convert a fraction to decimal is to divide the top number by the bottom number.

 

[dcstrom]

Interesting solution. I look forward to seeing the pics. BTW... .375" is 'imperial' decimal and 5/8" is 'imperial' fractional, neither are metric. ;D And yeah, it's annoying when sites don't pick one measurement method and be consistent with it's use.

If it helps, 1.0 mm is .040". And 5÷8=.625. All you need to do to convert a fraction to decimal is to divide the top number by the bottom number.

Yeah you're right - so used to metric being decimal-based that I get thrown for a loop when I see a non-metric decimal measurement! Especially side by side with a fractional measurement and have to figure out how they relate to each other...

 

[twistedthrottle]

Hey Kev, what happened to the Alu-rack offering for the S10? I see now it's a "Steel-rack":

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/7019/821/

It doesn't look like this rack supports the 3-hole quick disconnect system that the alu-rack had. What is the logic here behind the change?

Hi Venture.

Sorry for the delay in responding. We actually switched to the steel rack for several reasons. Chief among them was ease of use and cost to you guys. The Steel Toprack is larger and accepts all of the different styles of luggage that an Alu-Rack does and additionally Rotopax hardware. The Alu-Rack requires an adapter plate where the Steel Toprack bolts spools directly to the rack. The subtraction of the adapter plate and the cheaper steel (and just as strong) drives the cost down and offers a slightly larger platform for soft luggage.

 

[twistedthrottle]

I was wondering that when I was looking for pics of the rack to post and posted mine instead:

New one

Here's the deal though... looking at the new one, it has the holes in it for the Givi kit without the adapter plate, they sell the rear 'prongs' front clip thing and 4 rubber bumpers separately so this would remove the need for the adapter plate, for givi anyway.

Exactally correct. The hardware bolts directly to the rack. Less specialized material to create and cheaper to the end consumer.

 

[tubebender]

I have sent Twisted Throttle what I wrote below, just want to make others aware there may be a problem (or the problem is me ???)

I received and tried to instal the new steel top rack and Trax topbox last weekend.
As I understand it, the locating bobbins should bolt directly to the rack and the topbox should mount without the need of another adapter.
It does not fit, the passenger grab handles are in the way.

I made some 10 mm spacers and lifted the whole rack. Topbox went on but it is to far forward, crowding the pillion.
My wife did not like that, told me to fix it or get rid of it.

 

[Venture]

Hi Venture.

Sorry for the delay in responding. We actually switched to the steel rack for several reasons. Chief among them was ease of use and cost to you guys. The Steel Toprack is larger and accepts all of the different styles of luggage that an Alu-Rack does and additionally Rotopax hardware. The Alu-Rack requires an adapter plate where the Steel Toprack bolts spools directly to the rack. The subtraction of the adapter plate and the cheaper steel (and just as strong) drives the cost down and offers a slightly larger platform for soft luggage.

Ah, I see. In many ways a better solution to the adapter plates, even with the quick disconnect that was on the previous models.

Is the bracket in this picture stainless steel, or is it just zinc coated as it appears?

 

[twistedthrottle]

The rack is Powder coated silver.