What else uses our brake calipers

[mcbrien]

What other models use our brake calipers ?

 

[greg the pole]

are you trying to cross reference brake pad applicablity?

 

[wessie]

If you look up the brake pads in something like the Ferodo catalogue, you will see they are fitted on many Yamaha bikes from the R1 to cruisers. Whether the calipers are the same spec. is another matter. I have a set of pads bought to go on my Super Tenere but didn't fit them before changing bikes. The pads will fit my new FJ09/Tracer which is handy. The Tracer has the same TCS/ABS setup as the S10 so I imagine the whole brake system uses the same components as this will be cheaper for Yamaha.

 

[wessie]

Front pads with cross reference to other makes
http://ecat.ferodoracing.com/motorcycle/brake-pads-and-shoes/FDB605

Rear
http://ecat.ferodoracing.com/motorcycle/brake-pads-and-shoes/FDB2156

Complete catalogue so you can cross reference other bikes
http://www.ferodoracing.com/pdf/catalogues/Ferodo_motorcycle_catalogue.pdf

 

[mcbrien]

I want upgrade master cylinder to a radial Brembo unit and was trying to
find an application like for an R6 or something.

 

[wessie]

I want upgrade master cylinder to a radial Brembo unit and was trying to
find an application like for an R6 or something.

just because the calipers are common doesn't mean the master cylinder will be the same - in fact, on a sports bike the master cylinder is more likely to be a superior unit where the calipers may be the same as it is the master cylinder that generates the hydraulic force.

If you want to improve brake performance have you considered upgrading the lines? IME the S10 brakes are pretty good but you can improve the feel, especially if the bike is a few years old, by upgrading the lines to braided. A Brembo master cylinder is going over the top in my view for this bike.

Do you mind sharing your thinking behind upgrading the master cylinder? Are you converting it to a track day bike?

 

[mcbrien]

just because the calipers are common doesn't mean the master cylinder will be the same - in fact, on a sports bike the master cylinder is more likely to be a superior unit where the calipers may be the same as it is the master cylinder that generates the hydraulic force.

If you want to improve brake performance have you considered upgrading the lines? IME the S10 brakes are pretty good but you can improve the feel, especially if the bike is a few years old, by upgrading the lines to braided. A Brembo master cylinder is going over the top in my view for this bike.

Do you mind sharing your thinking behind upgrading the master cylinder? Are you converting it to a track day bike?
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I have upgraded lines already, only because they needed to be longer. Being able to stop as fast as possible is not over the top on any bike. Had a radial on my 86 srx]. Had radial clutch and brake on my tuono.
I'm used to being able to panic stop with 3 fingers. The stock master cylinder is like squeezing a grip builder. Its fine if you stay out of trouble.
If I find these calipers used on say an R6 I can find out what Brembo radial master cylinder other people are switching to because these calipers will work the same no matter what bike there on.

 

[20valves]

...these calipers will work the same no matter what bike [they're] on.

Except for the 170 lbs greater weight, smaller rotors, different tires and rim size on the Tenere compared to the R6, no matter. Might work, might be a mismatch, hard to say. BTW, my R1 has these calipers (radial mount version) and a very nice radial Brembo master cylinder. I would think an '04~'06 R1 master cylinder could be located pretty cheap.

IMHO, the Tenere brakes are more than up to the task as delivered.

 

[mcbrien]

Thanks 20valves , what size brembo unit are you now using?

 

[~TABASCO~]

You could also start poking around for some AP Racing and or Beringer components and do just about anything you want.... Keep in mind with the Super Tenere, with the use of the distribution & ABS system on this bike, I don't know if you can had hardware to only the front and get the expected results you might be looking for. You might have to pull all that hardware out if you want nutty braking power.

 

[20valves]

Thanks 20valves , what size brembo unit are you now using?

Bone stock. The '06 R1 has very nice a radial pump Brembo mc stock. Gotta be a zillion of 'em available.

 

[mcbrien]

Totally dazed and confused now. I thought that going to a bigger piston would
up my braking force and decrease effort but it seems to be the opposite. A bigger
piston moves more fluid in a shorter movement but requires more force. So a
smaller piston requires more travel with less force. Stock mc is a 16mm so seems
I need an even smaller piston to achieve my goal at the risk of running out of travel
before I reach maximum pressure.
I'm going in for a ecu unleashed flash tomorrow . That will take my mind off of this
for a bit.

 

[Berg_Donk]

Its all about levers. In addition to piston sizing, its the relationship of the lever, its length, and the length of the bit on the other side of the pivot that compresses the piston. Its not always what it seems.

Having said that, I have sucessfully used Brembo 11 mm MCs on the front of my DR650s, replacing their stock 12 mm units. Much more progressive and controllable, abeit with 320 mm discs and braided lines.

 

[mcbrien]

Its all about levers. In addition to piston sizing, its the relationship of the lever, its length, and the length of the bit on the other side of the pivot that compresses the piston. Its not always what it seems.

Having said that, I have sucessfully used Brembo 11 mm MCs on the front of my DR650s, replacing their stock 12 mm units. Much more progressive and controllable, abeit with 320 mm discs and braided lines.

Thanks for your reply. I believe I will try a Brembo radial RCS 15 m/a to replace my 16 and see what happens.