What adventure bike to buy

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Seeking to buy an adventure bike thought I was close to making a decision until I came across the Super Tenere coming out late next spring here in Canada. New to your forum as stumbled in looking for info on the new Tenere. First thoughts for my bike purchase was the obvious BMW gs 1200 or KTM 990. Then I found the Moto Guzzi Stelvio. Now the Super Tenere. Anyone have any pro and cons of these bikes,like good constructive cons. Really liking the looks the Super Tenere. Help!!
 

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Hey Bruisen, welcome to the forum!

I can't offer you much personal advice at this time since I haven't had a chance to check out the Tenere in person yet, but if you can manage to wait I'd suggest holding out until the bike arrives in Canada, then test ride as much as you can all the bikes on your list. I think most of the bikes you're looking at are pretty evenly matched, it comes down to what features you favor over others.

Throw us some more info about what kind of riding you like to do and maybe we can all zero in on what might suit you best.
 

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I ride a 2009 KTM 530 exc dual sport now. Bought it for the purpose of more off road than on road,but wanting to do more on road with maybe a little off road. Looking to tour across the states possibly next year from west coast to east than back up north to Canada on the east and travel west home. Looking to take the more less travelled roads whenever possible during the tour. Been riding the mountian trails near Jasper national park up along the rocky mountians body taking a little bit of abuse and now wanting to tour instead for a while.
 

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Bruisen,

I ride now a VSTROM 1000, and haven't looked twice about going to the Super Tenere. After sitting on it, it is more comfortable, better wind protection, shaft drive, ABS, Traction control and NO CHAIN FUSS!!!! I LOVE HONDA's, but since the Varadero isn't here in the states, well the Yamaha it is, as a better bike so far. You have the Varadero in Canada, which is a great ride, very comfy, but has a chain with the ABS. There are some great offers on the Honda now in Canada on them, again if having a chain doesn't bother you to lube it every day on a long tour.
My OPINION is if i had a million bucks in my pocket, I still would not buy a BMW. I just don't trust them like a Japanese bike!!!

Jeff
 

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The threads are developing on here regarding the pro's and con's of the various maufacturers offerings. My own view is that I did not get on too well with the BMW. I don't care for the looks of the big KTM. Both have impressive and proven credentials for what they were intended to do. As for the Moto Guzzi .... I really can't comment on that. I'm sure it's good but it would never actually register on any want list of mine. It's all down to personal preference and taste. Something else that springs to mind is the servicing .... Neither BMW and KTM dealerships are close enough for my day to day needs .... Moto Guzzi ? .... I did find one in Cambridge yesterday ::) only 125 miles away :eek:
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum.

The best advise I can offer is test ride, test ride and test ride. I rode 3 different adventure bikes, 2 tourers and 1 sports tourer before settling on the Super Ten. Check out other forums as well and consider all points raised. What one person loves the other hates, hence the test ride..
 

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Thanks for all your words of wisdom. Winter is coming upon us here riding season commencing to an end. Looks like I'm going to have to wait till spring upon the arrival of the Super Tenere and test it out. It's a long wait. Spring will now take forever waiting in anticipation. If anyone has an opinion good or bad please post a reply its greatly appreciated. Reading test reviews you never here negative opinions, according to the test reviews all bikes have no faults. Always best to here from the people buying one or already owns one. Thanks again.
 

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i have an 02 gs adventure. we've been damn near everywhere in north america except for the canadian maritimes. with 130k on the clock, it's time to retire the gs and go with something new. i'm still planning on heading to south america (probably this time next year) and i believe the super ten will be a good bike for the trip.

can't really compare the two bikes, though, since i've never even sat on a super ten. the gs is still the most comfortable bike i own and it still puts a smile on my face when i ride it. the final drive blew chunks at 32k, but other than that the only mechanical issue is the horn is on the fritz so i opt for the finger more often than not. :)

cons of the gs... heavy pig. i always drop mine with a full tank of gas. dirt/gravel roads aren't a problem, but heavy dirt and single track are out of the question unless you have some serious skills... and i don't. it prefers high octane gas which can be an issue in remote regions. it will run on low octane, but it will ping. not sure about the 1200's.

i believe the super ten will fill my needs an a real adventure tourer. i used to have a strom, but since i travel mainly on-road i really want abs. suzuki offers abs in the 650, but not the 1k so another strom is out of the question. it seems yamaha has been listening... abs, traction control, shaft drive, road-worthy performance, off-road capable, etc. ya. the wait until next may is going to be a serious !@#$!@#.

jason
 

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I've owned an R1200GS, and an F800GS both great bikes, but with small problems. I will say this: In America there is a yamaha dealer within 100 miles, pretty much where ever your are. The maintenance costs on BMWs is pretty high, if done by a dealer
 

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Bruisen said:
Thanks for all your words of wisdom. Winter is coming upon us here riding season commencing to an end. Looks like I'm going to have to wait till spring upon the arrival of the Super Tenere and test it out. It's a long wait. Spring will now take forever waiting in anticipation. If anyone has an opinion good or bad please post a reply its greatly appreciated. Reading test reviews you never here negative opinions, according to the test reviews all bikes have no faults. Always best to here from the people buying one or already owns one. Thanks again.
I think once you test ride your make ya mind up. In the UK Yamaha did a tour with a demo bike, may be worth keeping a look out to see if anything like that happens in your neck of the woods. Good luck with ya decision.
 

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You've got some time to think this over which is nice.

The S10 is really a Japanese GS, so you getting the same basic capabilities as the GS, but with a Japanese flavor - water-cooled vs. air-cooled, vertical-twin vs. flat-twin, transverse crank vs. longitudinal crank, forks vs. telelever. They'll feel quite different, but they're both very similar in capability and comfort.

Don't let anyone tell you differently.... the GS is a great bike, has a very engaging character, and has a few incremental advantages: slightly more power (at the expense of slightly less mid-range torque), slightly better fuel economy, and slightly less wight. Although an acquired taste, I personally really like the telelever and the nice feeling of stability it gives the front end, especially on bumpy pavement and under braking. But I don't think it is as good a fork in the dirt. Also with the BMW, you get the option of the GSA with the much larger tank - this could be crucial if you want to really get off the beaten track. Given all this, I still strongly prefer the S10 mostly because of the outstanding Yamaha reliability history vs. somewhat spotty BMW reliability history and the much cheaper price, at least with USA pricing. (I don't think Canadian pricing of the S10 has been announced, so things may be different in your neck of the woods.) I also think the electronics package on the Yamaha is better sorted and overall just prefer the general look and packaging of the S10. YMMV.

The other bikes you're considering are not so similar to the S10.

The Guzzi has Italian character out the wazoo, but is almost an exotic by comparison, with minuscule dealer support and periods where parts go AWOL for months at a time. And Guzzi is a mfg that seems perpetually to lurch from one financial criss to another. Also, every comparo between the Stelvio and the GS has said the GS is functionally superior in almost every way. I love Guzzi's, but they're really a bike for a committed Guzzi aficionado willing to ante up the effort to owning something somewhat rare and exotic.

The KTM990 is an overgrown dirt bike and a high-strung thoroughbred compared to the BMW and Yamaha. This is an exciting ride. If you really want to take a big bike into the boonies, it is the obvious choice, but things like very-difficult-to-change tubed tires and the narrow seat work heavily against it in the touring role. It's also relatively maintenance intensive and while most KTM's are Okay on reliability, there are some real horror stories out there, so the risk of a lemon is much higher I think. This is a bike which really tips the scales towards the dirt - if that's your thing, this is the bike, but your pay for this capability in spades in the pavement touring role.

You might want to look at the new 800 Triumphs as well. Triumph is doing some VERY interesting things and I think the 800cc triple is going to be a sweet engine.

Good luck with your decision.

- Mark
 

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Thanks again for the write ups. I've narrowed it down to the KTM 990 or the S10. Really liking the looks of the S10. Went to the dealer today to get some info, Probably won't know a price hear until the Bike Show hits Canada. S10 will probably be a pre order and won't arrive until July 2011. Now just waiting until bike show hits my city to actually see one, but with what I have heard and read I'm going to hold out for the S10.
 

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Bruisen said:
Thanks again for the write ups. I've narrowed it down to the KTM 990 or the S10. Really liking the looks of the S10. Went to the dealer today to get some info, Probably won't know a price hear until the Bike Show hits Canada. S10 will probably be a pre order and won't arrive until July 2011. Now just waiting until bike show hits my city to actually see one, but with what I have heard and read I'm going to hold out for the S10.
I was very much sold on a KTM990SMT but then rode the Super Ten, I found the later to be far more refined and should be better as an all round bike. From what I have read I would also expect the Yamaha to be more reliable than the KTM.

Super Ten for me it is...
 

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MortiisMachine said:
I was very much sold on a KTM990SMT but then rode the Super Ten, I found the later to be far more refined and should be better as an all round bike. From what I have read I would also expect the Yamaha to be more reliable than the KTM.

Super Ten for me it is...
I would have to agree with Mortiis on this as well, that the Yamaha will hold better reliability and lower maintenance costs than a KTM by far. Heck, you don't even have to check the valves on the Yamaha for 24k miles. KTM is something like 4-6000 miles.
 

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HoebSTer said:
MortiisMachine said:
I was very much sold on a KTM990SMT but then rode the Super Ten, I found the later to be far more refined and should be better as an all round bike. From what I have read I would also expect the Yamaha to be more reliable than the KTM.

Super Ten for me it is...
I would have to agree with Mortiis on this as well, that the Yamaha will hold better reliability and lower maintenance costs than a KTM by far. Heck, you don't even have to check the valves on the Yamaha for 24k miles. KTM is something like 4-6000 miles.

Yeah and they quoted around £400 for the valve clearance, another put off for me.
 

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having the money is an understatment for sure. I think so far if money were no object, I would start by purchasing the first 5 or so bike i ever owned. Starting with my first the Honda V65 Sabre with HONDA Fairing.
 

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HoebSTer said:
having the money is an understatment for sure. I think so far if money were no object, I would start by purchasing the first 5 or so bike i ever owned. Starting with my first the Honda V65 Sabre with HONDA Fairing.
It sure makes the world go round, do what ya can with what ya got, that's my way..
 
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