Did one of mine get chopped too? I thought I had been blabbing about something, and now it seems to be gone.
Weapons - What you have (NOT a political discussion)
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You might check out the M&P Pro 9mm series with the sights and competition trigger. Have one and it's a tack driver....I’m thinking of starting to look for another 9mm competition gun but not super expensive as I’m not super competitive. I use the theory that it’s me that needs the work instead of the gun
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Smith & Wesson M&p Pro Series - For Sale - New :: Guns.com
Reliable and easy to use the Smith Wesson MP9 is a striker-fired semi-automatic handgun chambered in 9mm offered with or without a thumb safety. The frame is made from non-corrosive polymer and the slide and barrel are constructed of stainless steel. Palm swell panels can easily be changed...
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While generally about hunting, you'd gone into views on "constitutional carry."
I referred to CC but I thought that naturally meant “concealed carry”…
In case anybody else has been looking -
After renting today I decided to get a P365XL. The safety on the Smith Shield Plus was just too small to reliably flip down every time when drawing. Between the Sig and Hellcat Pro, neither is really good looking and the safety is almost identical so the deciding factor was the crisp feel of the Sig trigger. The extra 3/4" barrel and longer grip on the Sig and Hellcat sure made a difference in tighter groups compared to the standard 3" barrels.
No losers among the three, the Sig just felt best for me and is still small enough for both OWB under garments and [barely] pocket carry with the flush 12 rd magazine. Unfortunately it's also the most expensive.
After renting today I decided to get a P365XL. The safety on the Smith Shield Plus was just too small to reliably flip down every time when drawing. Between the Sig and Hellcat Pro, neither is really good looking and the safety is almost identical so the deciding factor was the crisp feel of the Sig trigger. The extra 3/4" barrel and longer grip on the Sig and Hellcat sure made a difference in tighter groups compared to the standard 3" barrels.
No losers among the three, the Sig just felt best for me and is still small enough for both OWB under garments and [barely] pocket carry with the flush 12 rd magazine. Unfortunately it's also the most expensive.
Haha I spilled some coffee there
Renting? You mean you can rent a gun to try it out?
Wow! Just… wow!
Here, it’s a case of suck-it-&-see where you might get to try the gun of someone else out you take a punt on how it’ll perform. Then you take it to a gunsmith to improve it.
I generally do all my own polishing & spring mods though.
Most ranges around here have rentals. Price is usually $10-$25 an hour and only use their ammo.
RCinNC
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I have a Glock 26 (9mm) with that same grip issue; you have one finger hanging loose. So I did the same thing, and bought a magazine extender which gave me one extra round and a place to put my pinky finger. At which point you realize that, now that you've added that extra accessory, you've basically created a short barreled Glock 19, and should have just bought the Glock 19 in the first place.
It might be a workable solution for the Glock 42 since, if you want a Glock in .380 that's the only choice. For the other subcompacts (from Glock, at least), I don't think the slight advantage in concealability is worth the trade off. I'm opting for a full size grip in any future purchases.
It might be a workable solution for the Glock 42 since, if you want a Glock in .380 that's the only choice. For the other subcompacts (from Glock, at least), I don't think the slight advantage in concealability is worth the trade off. I'm opting for a full size grip in any future purchases.
RCinNC
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It's more "no" for me. It's not recoil that's my issue, it's the awkwardness of obtaining the proper grip from the holster position while drawing. Bad grip position can result in either bad first round accuracy, a second round failure to feed, or the time delay of having to reposition your grip once you've drawn.
When I bought the Glock it felt odd in my hand, but I figured I'd get accustomed to it after shooting it; I never did. I liked the concealability of it (a big reason I bought it to replace my .45), but to make it a comfortable shooter I had to add the magazine extender, and at that point I'd have been better off just buying the Glock 19. Both guns are the same width, and with the extender installed both are about the same height. The 19 is only a half inch longer than the 26. And the 19 holds five more rounds than the 26 in stock configuration, and three more than the 26 with the extended magazine plate.
The grip positon may not be an issue for a lot of people, but it's obviously enough of an issue that there are factory produced and aftermarket accessories made to compensate for the shorty grips. I'm just one of those guys who never warmed up to the "pinky in the breeze" grip position. The 26 is fine with the added accessory, so I'll hang onto it, but I wouldn't be in the market for another firearm that's designed for a three finger grip. I should have listened to my insticts the first time I held the pistol when I thought "man, that just feels....weird".
When I bought the Glock it felt odd in my hand, but I figured I'd get accustomed to it after shooting it; I never did. I liked the concealability of it (a big reason I bought it to replace my .45), but to make it a comfortable shooter I had to add the magazine extender, and at that point I'd have been better off just buying the Glock 19. Both guns are the same width, and with the extender installed both are about the same height. The 19 is only a half inch longer than the 26. And the 19 holds five more rounds than the 26 in stock configuration, and three more than the 26 with the extended magazine plate.
The grip positon may not be an issue for a lot of people, but it's obviously enough of an issue that there are factory produced and aftermarket accessories made to compensate for the shorty grips. I'm just one of those guys who never warmed up to the "pinky in the breeze" grip position. The 26 is fine with the added accessory, so I'll hang onto it, but I wouldn't be in the market for another firearm that's designed for a three finger grip. I should have listened to my insticts the first time I held the pistol when I thought "man, that just feels....weird".
Early Gen Glocks had a weird grip angle. You're right, just didn't feel right. Especially after carrying a 1911. But S&W and Gen 4 and/or 5 Glocks have the same angle as the 1911 now. And yes, I definitely prefer a full grip. But as long as I have a good grip and a good sight picture, I'm good to go. Even with the pinky hanging out in the breeze.
My current S&W Shield has a flush 6rd mag, and a slightly longer 7rd mag. I've never been wearing anything that I need to use the 6rd. I keep the 7rd mag in there, and it's totally concealed; no printing.
My current S&W Shield has a flush 6rd mag, and a slightly longer 7rd mag. I've never been wearing anything that I need to use the 6rd. I keep the 7rd mag in there, and it's totally concealed; no printing.
My pinky swings in the breeze on my Alfa Project revolver when it has the standard grip in it. The competition grip is great but only for right hand & No good when doing events that require both hands. I’m in the process of making another grip as I cannot get any others down where I am.
RCinNC
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It's definitely a personal preference thing, much like ergonomics on an S10. For some the stock seat was torture and had to be immediately replaced; it didn't bother me, at least not enough to invest a ton of money into an RDL. I threw an Airhawk on, and it was fine for me. The stock 26 isn't a wrong design; it's just wrong for me. But I wanted to bring up the point that, if you're buying a handgun for its concealability and it feels weird in your hand, or you start asking the gunshop owner about grip extenders that will impact the main selling feature of the handgun, you should consider that you're buying the wrong gun for you. I wish I had. I had a friend's Glock 19 for a bit while I was making a holster for him, and it had a very natural, ergonomically-friendly-to-me feel the first time I held it.
thughes317
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I learned to shoot with a subcompact (the dangling pinky), so it just feels natural to me and a full size grip feels "large"....as RC said: it's a personal preference.
Regarding the "weird" grip angle between Glock and 1911: I had an instructor point out the fact that with a 1911, you point your fingers at the target when presenting, with the Glock you point your thumbs at the target when presenting....that little tidbit of advice has made a big difference for me in getting sights on target quickly with either flavor of grip angle.
Yeah, favorite or best gun is just another oil thread. There's enough out there that you'll be able to find one that fits/shoots perfect for you. My son bought a 1st Gen M&P 9mm about 10 years ago. I picked it up and looked down the sights; sighted quite naturally. I took my 1911 and held them side by side. Exact same grip angle. What I didn't like, and still don't like, are striker fired guns. But not all striker fired are the same. The 2.0 S&W M&P has greatly improved theirs. My S&W came from their Performance Center and its striker almost feels like a real trigger. Super crisp.
My Silver Back brain isn't understanding what your instructor was talking about. To me, the 1911 angle is THE natural angle for a human's hand. And I'm not the only one. I mean, heck, 1911 says it all. John Mose Browning was a time traveling space alien.
