Seems like the opinions on traction control are unanimous! My dirt riding these days is done mostly on a DRZ400s, my days of motocross are over and the YZ's have been sold off, but I have been using the S10 in the mountains west of town here in Gettysburg, Pa. a little. I did the NEBDR last summer on the DRZ and this year will be running the MABDR on the S10 which has 3-5 waters crossings, our crossings are not usually snotty in the spring, but they are free stone streams and rivers here in Appalachia so larger rocks that can be tricky. I have seen videos of the super slick stuff you guys are writing about, guys not even being able to stand up on it! I had put some street oriented tires on the S10 and will be swapping them for something more aggressive for this ride. This ride seems well suited to a large ADV, not as technical as the NEBDR, but this will be my first experience doing stream crossings on a big bike while loaded. Previously I had a GS1250 which was terrible off road owing to it's vague front end feel off-road, but at least it was super unreliable! The S10 gives me confidence to even attempt a trip like this with it, mechanically and dynamically. We'll see!