WARNING Shinko E705 tire

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I might add that there is one tire you will be hard pressed to find any failure reports on. The Mitas E07. I know Bob had one fail but his was due to a flat if I remember right.
My E07 failure was no fault of the tire. It was from loss of pressure at speed due to failure of a sticky string plug. I'd spun the tire on gravel when pulling out of a gas stop just before so am fairly sure the gravel was what got the plug. I'll re-post the picture here because it's a lesson in how important tire pressure is to keeping things from becoming ugly in an instant. Low pressure means heat build-up in the sidewall from flex till the rubber in the sidewall fails. I must've had somebody watching over me to have the tire fail like this while in the middle of an absolutely empty highway with wide shoulders because I used most of it to get stopped and then didn't get hit in the black night.


In the center is some of the rubber "sand" mentioned by Fennellg which is a symptom of low pressure when the sidewall rubber rubs itself.
 
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That is a sobering reminder. As we all know our experiences might be different. OTOH, when something goes wrong it is really fast. I'm happy you are here and did not get injured over that low pressure failure.
 

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Found this thread from a search engine spree.
My S10 needs new shoes.

Here’s my take so far;
Shinko (705) are “decent tires”
Their life expectancy and performance depend on what/how you ride.
Big/heavy, fast, or smaller/lighter, less wrist.
More expensive tires might survive under inflation related heat/flex, where Shinko may not.
Under the right circumstances Shinkos are great, under the wrong ones, they are not.

Did I just describe all tires?
 

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I’ve got a 712 on the rear of my K75c and a Dunlop on the front. I went cheap when the rear wore out since this bike is seldom ridden. This will be the last time I’ll ever use a Shinko, it is the slickest tire I’ve ever used.

I know some rave about them but I’ve also heard them called Stinkos, I agree we the later.

Maybe on a dirt bike.
 

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Found this thread from a search engine spree.
My S10 needs new shoes.

Here’s my take so far;
Shinko (705) are “decent tires”
Their life expectancy and performance depend on what/how you ride.
Big/heavy, fast, or smaller/lighter, less wrist.
More expensive tires might survive under inflation related heat/flex, where Shinko may not.
Under the right circumstances Shinkos are great, under the wrong ones, they are not.

Did I just describe all tires?
LOL. Pretty much.
I'm with richarddacat and won't use Shinkos on pavement again.
 

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I just mount another 705 this week. Almost 10 000km on the other. Second rear for this year. Like them alot. They perform well for what I ask them to do. But around 7000km they loose a lot of grip in the gravel but plenty good for asphalt.
 

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I’ve got a 712 on the rear of my K75c and a Dunlop on the front. I went cheap when the rear wore out since this bike is seldom ridden. This will be the last time I’ll ever use a Shinko, it is the slickest tire I’ve ever used.

I know some rave about them but I’ve also heard them called Stinkos, I agree we the later.

Maybe on a dirt bike.
Pretty sure the 712 are the crappiest (is that a word) shinko they make, not one of the others I've ran 705s,804/805, mobbers or 244s have been like they are not sure what the deal with them is
 

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Not my Tenéré but my Venture (1200 lbs with me on it!). Before a trip to the west coast I put on a Shinko rear. A few hundred miles later I forgot to hook my helmet and at 35+\- put it on cruise and moved both hands to my neck. Talk about shimmy. Pulled over to fasten the helmet and check the bike. Everything looked ok so I kept on to Boise thinking it was the cupped front.

Got to Boise and replaced the front. Seemed better. 1000 miles later back in Boise from the Oregon and Washington Coast went back to that dealer to check the problem. The Shinko was not round! One spot on the right quarter of the tread was higher than the rest. They did not have a replacement so since I had 3k on it rode home.

Back in Des Moines went to the shop and got a Dunlop. Did not fix the problem. Bought a Car tire and Took both to my Yamaha dealer. Do I have a wheel issue maybe caused by 4,000 miles on a bad tire? If the Dunlop is bad put the car tire on.

What are the odds. $450 of motorcycle tires were bad, and in the process the pressure sensor got broken. So now the $150 dark side tire is on but waiting for the Yamaha tool to sync the new sensor.
 

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Not my Tenéré but my Venture (1200 lbs with me on it!). Before a trip to the west coast I put on a Shinko rear. A few hundred miles later I forgot to hook my helmet and at 35+\- put it on cruise and moved both hands to my neck. Talk about shimmy. Pulled over to fasten the helmet and check the bike. Everything looked ok so I kept on to Boise thinking it was the cupped front.

Got to Boise and replaced the front. Seemed better. 1000 miles later back in Boise from the Oregon and Washington Coast went back to that dealer to check the problem. The Shinko was not round! One spot on the right quarter of the tread was higher than the rest. They did not have a replacement so since I had 3k on it rode home.

Back in Des Moines went to the shop and got a Dunlop. Did not fix the problem. Bought a Car tire and Took both to my Yamaha dealer. Do I have a wheel issue maybe caused by 4,000 miles on a bad tire? If the Dunlop is bad put the car tire on.

What are the odds. $450 of motorcycle tires were bad, and in the process the pressure sensor got broken. So now the $150 dark side tire is on but waiting for the Yamaha tool to sync the new sensor.
I'm assuming you've checked your wheel bearings and had the dealer check the rim for true? I'm biased on this so take my words knowing that but if I have a bike of that style and weight it would never have anything but a CT on it, but that's me and you have to make your own decision on what your comfortable with.
 

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I'm assuming you've checked your wheel bearings and had the dealer check the rim for true? I'm biased on this so take my words knowing that but if I have a bike of that style and weight it would never have anything but a CT on it, but that's me and you have to make your own decision on what your comfortable with.
Car tire is on. Once the pressure sensor gets linked I wii ride it for a few hundred miles and decide if I stay dark side or not. Have read both sides and now I need some twisties.
 

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Car tire is on. Once the pressure sensor gets linked I wii ride it for a few hundred miles and decide if I stay dark side or not. Have read both sides and now I need some twisties.

What ct did you use?
 

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I bought my 2014 S10 last year , the previous owner had just mounted new Shinko E705 tires . I personally would never buy this brand, but they were new so IView attachment 67479 thought i would try them out.
last weekend i got caught in a downpour, when I turned into a gas station the S10 slid out from under me , luckily the only thing that was hurt was my pride.
that's when I found out these tires are very slick in the rain.
I bought some new Conti Trail Attack 3 tires , after changing the tires I gave the old ones a close inspection and found small cracks around one side of the tire as shown in the picture.
I would like to warn all riders NOT to use this tire.

Thanks for posting this. I currently have a set on mine and will keep a watch out for this. Hopefully that was an isolated manufacturing flaw.
 

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Shinko tires are generally low quality, so they aren't as concerned about tire balance during production as higher-end brands (dunlop, pirelli, etc).

Keep in mind that you're not just balancing the tire - you're also balancing your wheel (which often have minor imperfections), as well as the placement for your valve stem.
 

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I'm curious what characteristics the 705 possesses that makes it low quality (as opposed to simply inexpensive).
 

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My riding Bud has 705 on his S10; we tear up canyons and he commutes 100 miles with no complaints.
Many front tires are bias, which is under $50 for the Shinko.
The primary reason I’m not going to run a 705 front is I’ve read the lateral grip is what you’d expect from that class of tire.
Only time I dropped her off road was when the front didn’t climb and instead washed out. I expected too much from the tire I was riding. Sadly I imagine most of this is falling for marketing hype.
 

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Been using Shinkos for over 12 years on my 1998 900 Triumph Tiger, 2003 1050 Triumph Tiger my 2002 Kawasaki ZRX 1200.
I had only one 705 grow a hernia under the tread on my Tenere about two tires ago.
I ain't no light rider over 300lbs and when i tour I'm loaded with another 80lbs worth of load.
It happens..
 

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My riding Bud has 705 on his S10; we tear up canyons and he commutes 100 miles with no complaints.
Many front tires are bias, which is under $50 for the Shinko.
The primary reason I’m not going to run a 705 front is I’ve read the lateral grip is what you’d expect from that class of tire.
Only time I dropped her off road was when the front didn’t climb and instead washed out. I expected too much from the tire I was riding. Sadly I imagine most of this is falling for marketing hype.
Is there a time limit to edit?
I meant to write that lateral grip in dirt is consistent with a 70/30 tire and I went more aggressive.
 

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@Bayes totally agree that you tried it given the bad experience, will never use them again (or maybe that company)

For the rest of the folks, if you could let us know what the date code is, it'd be good to eliminate 'previous owner installed really old tire' as a possibility
(this is what it should look like)


That's a ton of cracking for that type of tire, and I wouldn't ride them either.
I see the date code on your photo. Could you please explain how to read it?
 
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