UK's Adventure Bike Rider Magazine picks the Super Tenere as the best??!!??

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I buy the odd "Adventure Bike Rider" magazine in digital version for my smart phone. It is a UK-based publication for those unfamiliar. Some entertaining articles.
Just downloaded the May June issue. Attached some screenshots so apologize for the fuzziness.

There is a review of the 2014 ST (not attached); a look at Teneres down through the years; a comparison of the 2014 with the "old" ST; a reader survey on which adventure bike that they would buy; and then ABR's choice for their "Which one would you have".

For the readers, the percentages were: KTM - 32%; Beemer - 27%; Super Tenere - 23%; V-Strom - 5%; Triumph TE - 6%; Multistrada - 1%; Honda Crosstourer - 1%; Aprilla - 1%.
Not a bad endorsement of our ST.

Now, the magazine went on after the survey to pick their "one" - and it was the Tenere over all the others with probably the best description that they "get it" that I have ever read in a review about the bike. For those who might have trouble reading the photos:

"Which leaves us with the Tenere, a bike that was lukewarm in the first few hours of the press launch in Italy. It was all just a little bland and uninspiring. It didn't do anything particular well and was just another bike you get on and off. Forgettable even. But spending time with it in the UK, and also on the off-road school, really brought out its depth of ability. It is a very solid, dependable bike, that you would never question its ability to do what you asked it to do. With that soft, low suspension it's also a very accessible bike. You don't get tired in traffic, and that engine is one that isn't endlessly encouraging you to rev the nuts off it. The bike instead encourages you to reduce the pace somewhat, take in the scenery, and in the corners it's light, nimble and non-threatening. There is no sense of excess weight. That only comes off in of-road conditions where it isn't as competent as a stock GS, but with the right tyres, and the right patience, it will get you through the worst of it. The new technology also adds a new level of depth, but if there's one thing that sets the Yamaha apart from the rest would be its simple sense of integrity, almost reminiscent of those old trail bikes from the eighties, still going strong, that were on display at the Ace. You can imagine this new Tenere still going strong in thirty years time, and for that reason, and for many others, we award it best new adventure bike of 2014

I think I might subscribe to ABR. Great article (maybe I don't buy the dirt assessment, because I have ridden both the GS and ST off dirt and the ST is far better), but haven't seen anyone nail down so well why I bought it (and I learned to ride on a DT-1!

 

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s "no sense of excess weight. That only comes off in of-road conditions where it isn't as competent as a stock GS, but with the right tyres, and the right patience, it will get you through the worst of it"

I disagree with that bit . The ST is so much more manageable off road than the Top heavy GS .
 

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Sam,

Thnx for taking the time to post this up! ::003::

It's nice to see that they took the time to really evaluate the S10, especially after living with it as many of us do; both on and off road, and that they 'get it'; weighing the weight, durability, reliability, versatility, longevity... once you've ridden hundreds of miles on And off road you can really appreciate what this bike can do, especially if you've got the right tires like they mentioned in the article! It really inspires confidence.

We should take a survey and see how many miles folks are riding this thing Off Road.

Cheers, dean ::001::
 

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Yeah, in the full review article, they state that the GS is better in the dirt. This just isn't true (at least the pre-water heads - don't know about them). I have ridden both extensively and there is no way the GS is better in the dirt. That is where the ST shines. The GS IS slightly better in the twisties. The reviewer does say that everyone warms up to the bike on the asphalt and dirt, but it takes time and then they actually really like the bike. The review concludes by saying that the "sense of reliability and toughness shines through". I can live with that. Nicely captures a main reason that I chose it over the GS.
 

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RidingUpandDown said:
We should take a survey and see how many miles folks are riding this thing Off Road.
We should take a survey and see what people consider Off Road. ::024::

And thanks for posting it up Salmon. If YAMAHA keep selling them and donlt stuff it up, I think they will slowly grow on people for real world attributes that count.

My favourite Part..
but if there's one thing that sets the Yamaha apart from the rest would be its simple sense of integrity
Yep, that's how I would put it.

and that engine is one that isn't endlessly encouraging you to rev the nuts off it. The bike instead encourages you to reduce the pace somewhat, take in the scenery...
I know some people like to do one road 1000 times and compete against their own "lap time" but to me that is just comuting to no where.

I want to explore and enjoy the scenery, which I suppose is why I got a bit sick of bikes that are...
endlessly encouraging you to rev the nuts off..
 

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The reader Facebook survey is interesting. You can understand the strong showing of the KTM due to its newness, power, and recent Dakar success, and that of the GS due to its history, "mythos", and rave reviews. All the other bikes, except for the ST seem to be rightly revealed as "pretenders" (I put 500 miles on and off road on a Tiger Explorer recently and although loved the engine and the transmission (when it worked and not stuck in 2nd gear) I thought it was one of the worst handling bikes that I have ever ridden).
The ST is legitimate and full of integrity, and does have a Tenere history (at least in Europe). There also might be some preference for the manufacturer given its MotoGP and AMA Super and Sport bike success (that kind of DNA know-how incorporated into the Tenere).

So, I am wondering - are there two camps on this forum and two directions that we basically would like the ST to go: 1) Stay a basic dirt bike of "integrity, reliability and toughness, or 2) Through increasing refinements and electronic gizmos, go to more of a "Starbucks pretender" - so an on-road bike that looks like it can go around the world, but really stick to the tarmac? My preferences are obvious. I am disturbed the prospect that someone indicated that only 12% take their rides off-road???? I would have bought an FJR with risers instead, if I didn't want a long-distance bike that could also do forest roads. I fear the current trend and market viability favors 2).
 

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Salmon Sam said:
The reader Facebook survey is interesting. You can understand the strong showing of the KTM due to its newness, power, and recent Dakar success, and that of the GS due to its history, "mythos", and rave reviews. All the other bikes, except for the ST seem to be rightly revealed as "pretenders" (I put 500 miles on and off road on a Tiger Explorer recently and although loved the engine and the transmission (when it worked and not stuck in 2nd gear) I thought it was one of the worst handling bikes that I have ever ridden).
The ST is legitimate and full of integrity, and does have a Tenere history (at least in Europe). There also might be some preference for the manufacturer given its MotoGP and AMA Super and Sport bike success (that kind of DNA know-how incorporated into the Tenere).

So, I am wondering - are there two camps on this forum and two directions that we basically would like the ST to go: 1) Stay a basic dirt bike of "integrity, reliability and toughness, or 2) Through increasing refinements and electronic gizmos, go to more of a "Starbucks pretender" - so an on-road bike that looks like it can go around the world, but really stick to the tarmac? My preferences are obvious. I am disturbed the prospect that someone indicated that only 12% take their rides off-road? ??? I would have bought an FJR with risers instead, if I didn't want a long-distance bike that could also do forest roads. I fear the current trend and market viability favors 2).


I want what it is right now...

A wonderful balance between on- and off-road capability, with reliability and dependability unrivaled in the marketplace. Just simple, steady refinement over the next few years, much like Yamaha has done with the FJR. I'd love to see it lighter, and with better suspension out of the box (but not electronic), but I wouldn't want either of those desires to in any way affect the bikes balance or reliability.

This bike is spectacular bargain for what you get. No other motorcycle currently available can do so much while costing so little. That's also one of its virtues.

I don't want to sound like a "Super Tenere Fanboy", but honestly, I think that years down the road the current Super Tenere is going to looked back on as one of the greats. History will be kind to it, and it will be revered for the *balance* it struck between on- and off-road performance, comfort, and capability - and all with reliability, dependability, and lost cost of ownership and maintenance that other bikes only wish they had.

I hope they refine the Super Tenere, but leave it what it is. Balanced.

Dallara



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Totally agree, Dallara. My worry is what they might have to do with it to keep it market-viable (especially in the US). I don't think Yamaha is happy with the sales and I don't think that the true adventure market is an attractively large enough market, especially in the US. Many bikers seem to be heavy into image, image, image ...

Hey, what's wrong with being a "Super Tenere Fanboy"?? ::022:: ::022:: ::022:: ::015:: ::014:: ::012:: ::022::
 

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Not ridden either "off road" unless you count gravel / dirt tracks and such like as "off road", but both worked equally well at my pathetic pace, although I think the Yamaha has slightly better suspension off road (or at least it feels more comfy at my speed)

On the road the old GS does steer quicker and feels a shade sportier as well as having more ground clearance, I think the engine characteristics make it feel a shade quicker than it really is - and a bit more "exciting", and I suspect the latest WC builds on the older model. The lack of dependability of my last GS was the only thing that stopped me buying another one.

I think some folk in the press are growing up a bit and realising people buying these bikes don't all ride flat out everywhere like they do on the press launch, and some are even happy within the speed limits of the land they are travelling through.

Must admit if money was no object I would probably have the KTM, but in the real world the Yamaha does everything well enough, it does run out of puff but not until well past "instant ban" on the speedo, which is better than the KTM / Ducati that accelerate with ease until "Go directly to jail" is showing on their flash digital displays.
 
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