UK 100 best bikes owner survey puts the XT1200Z in its rightful place

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RIDE, a respected UK magazine has just published its RIDER SURVEY of the best UK bikes. This is based on real owner ratings scoring out of 100 on more than just the usual performance markers, including such categories as value for money, reliability, running costs, dealer satisfaction and more. Despite the conspiracy of the motorcycling press here who have sold their souls to BMW and ignore the Super Ténére which is almost never included in bike comparisons nor mentioned in general editorial, guess what? In the top 100 bikes, which even covers discontinued models but, since it is owner driven, does not include the latest 2014 bikes, our Yamaha came SECOND, just 0.17% behind the Triumph Explorer. The BMW GS came 11th and that was the Adventure model. The standard GS could only manage 17th. Most surprising, the Super Ténére came 4th on braking, beating every sports bike but the 1098 Ducati. The only specific criticism of the Yamaha was that the spokes corroded too easily. Amen to that though ‘tis but a small thing.

What this shows is that, outside of the blinkered motorcycling press whose opinions are grounded on the generosity of the latest manufacturer junket and sponsored trips to exotic track days and who never have to pay the price of actually owning and maintaining the bike, real motorcyclists know a good thing when they ride it and, more importantly, own it.

Although we all know the truth, its nice when a magazine makes it official, don’t you think?
 

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Can't argue with a survey that asks owners their opinion, however, could argue with the statement "respected UK magazine".
 

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frez said:
Can't argue with a survey that asks owners their opinion, however, could argue with the statement "respected UK magazine".
Any magazine that even considers asking owners the questions in this survey gets my respect. None of the others seem to give a s**t what owners think just so long as they get their next free test bike. I have to confess that I have now decided none of them are worth their cover price and have given up buying them. I rely instead on borrowing one or two from the supermarket magazine display, reading them over my morning coffee in the supermarket cafe then replacing them on the way out. Can't understand why Tesco got so upset about that!
 

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I love it!

We aren't crazy. Brainwashed. Or drunk on Kool-Aid. It simply is one of the most satisfying motorcycles to own that has ever been produced.
History will regard it favorably. If for no other reason, there will still be a few running around the planet decades from now.
 

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Sounds good to me but I'm an Explorer owner trying to become a Super Tenere owner. What we call win win.
 

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I agree, the Triumph is a fine bike, and has been throughout it's history. I was very much not surprised the BMW rated so low. What it came down to for me to buy the S10 as opposed to the Tiger was 1) Quality 2) Price 3) Standard equipment 4) Comfort and finally 5) I test rode a GS, Tiger, Stelvio, and a Tenere. I re-test rode the Tiger and Tenere and the Tenere WON hands down for me. I have put 1600 miles on the 2013 S10 and love it a little more each time I ride. I may never own another bike.
 

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The Triumph to me was a great Touring machine with Pothole-ability that seemed sensible for it's home market.

In OZ it just felt like the Strom all over again as far as it wanting to nap and chew fuel.

The S10 worked well on the marbles and felt like a big grown up dirt bike with all the ups and downs that entails.

It's sort of what I was hoping for with the other ADV bikes but they turned out to be more oriented to the ALPS than the desert.

Good to have choice and not have everyone piled into the one end of the spectrum and good to have choice with reliability as well.

Now some choice in capacity might be good as well. (900cc maybe?)
 

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GrahamD said:
It's sort of what I was hoping for with the other ADV bikes but they turned out to be more oriented to the ALPS than the desert.

Good to have choice and not have everyone piled into the one end of the spectrum and good to have choice with reliability as well.
I can vouch for the S10 working very well in the Alps ::008::

A very good point though, our home market is changing, but it was extremely superbike orientated from the mid 80's through to just a few years ago, although what were once called "Giant Trailies" (Africa Twin / 750 Tenere / DR Big etc / Cagiva Elephant etc) did very well in most of Europe these bikes were very rare in the UK and either ignored or ridiculed by the UK press.

Most of the UK biking population is people who grew up wanting to be either Barry Sheene or Carl Fogarty, now in their 40's and 50's and finding the ever more extreme sportsbikes a bit too small / fast / cramped and unusable as the bikes have got faster and more focussed as roads have become poorer and more congested, and the power and handling of modern Adv bikes is where superbikes were a decade or so ago - even our "under-powered" S10 has about the same power as the original Ducati 916.

We also have virtually no legal trails in the UK, and there are no open spaces to Explore, and the "average" UK biker does not really go anywhere, most are Sunday warriors who (only when the weather is perfect) will go to some "Bikers Café" to kick tyres, or ride up and down the "best" biking road in their area.

The more adventurous of us do venture to places such as the Alps, and your right in that the "other" Adv bikes are perfect for this as 99% of the roads are paved (and generally in much better condition than most UK roads)

What the number 2 spot shows is that the very small minority of UK bikers who own the S10 really do like the all round appeal, but it will never be a huge seller and the way the "others" have gone is probably in line with what most UK bikers do want, which is a tall sportsbike.
 

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well like you say the RIDE mag result is a survey of those bikers that have to live day in and day out with there bikes .. NOT ... a few days quick thrash by the press, who to my mind are to open to .. "sweeteners" ..B..y a certain M.. anufacture of W..ho i wont mention ........ :-X
 
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