Turn key - NO POWER. Fuses ok

[sergeyd]

Hi guys,

Unfortunately one of these days where I turned the key and nothing. Though it's the better.
Bought a new one. Turned the key - nothing. Checked the fuses. Looks good. Change 2 main fuses just in case. Nothing again (completely nothing, no sound, no lights).
What else can it be?
Battery tended not helps as well.

 

[Fordf350]

Bad ground, check negative cable.

 

[JJTJ2]

Couldn't it also be an issue with the positive cable?

 

[sergeyd]

Bad ground, check negative cable.

I check it. It's there it's just connected to the frame right? Or I should look for something else?

 

[Cycledude]

Make sure it’s clean and tight on both ends of both + and - cables.
friend dropped off a 450 Honda ATV for me to try figuring out what might be wrong with it because sometimes it wouldn’t start using The electric starter but one pull on the rope it would start every time. First day I had it started fine electrically, second day no electric start so I tested the battery with my cheap $25 load tester and it tested good, battery cables seemed tight enough but I cleaned and tightened them a little more with a 10mm socket and everything worked perfect after that for the month or so that it was here, he also reported no more trouble starting.

 

[Tenman]

Even if they are tight. you might want to break them and tighten them again. I had a no start. It was was a solenoid connection. It was tight and looked clean.

 

[Boris]

Even if they are tight. you might want to break them and tighten them again. I had a no start. It was was a solenoid connection. It was tight and looked clean.

Yep, check the starter solenoid connections.

 

[Nikolajsen]

Yep, check the starter solenoid connections.

As I understand it, there is not even light in the dash?
If so, not starter solenoid connections.

 

[Boris]

As I understand it, there is not even light in the dash?
If so, not starter solenoid connections.

Doesn’t the positive terminal lead go direct from battery to SS? If so, then no connection, no power?

 

[gunslinger_006]

Doesn’t the positive terminal lead go direct from battery to SS? If so, then no connection, no power?

That is not the only lead from the battery.

The battery powers multiple systems long before the starter is ever engaged.


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[sergeyd]

As I understand it, there is not even light in the dash?
If so, not starter solenoid connections.

Nothing. No light. No sounds. Dead. I'll check all the cables today. will see what it is.

 

[Boris]

That is not the only lead from the battery.

The battery powers multiple systems long before the starter is ever engaged.


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I might be missing something here, but the positive lead, goes direct to the SS, where there are other connections as well as the SS, if the positive lead is detached from the SS, the other connections will not engage.

I understand that we are not talking engaging the SS at this stage. If your bike is nearby, have a look.

I may well be wrong, am just trying to understand, not argue.

 

[gunslinger_006]

I might be missing something here, but the positive lead, goes direct to the SS, where there are other connections as well as the SS, if the positive lead is detached from the SS, the other connections will not engage.

I understand that we are not talking engaging the SS at this stage. If your bike is nearby, have a look.

I may well be wrong, am just trying to understand, not argue.

Oh sorry I misunderstood what you meant. I checked the wiring diagram and you are right. It looks like the lead goes to the SS and then the ecu and other elementa pick up power from there.

Time to bust out the multimeter and follow the energized path from thr battery to the ecu.


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[Boris]

Gunslinger, I think you’re right.........at the top of the positive lead, near the SS, there’s a branch off, as seen in this pic. Even if the lead had come away from the SS, power would follow the other route? Is that right?

I’m confused now.

 

[HeliMark]

Battery tended not helps as well.

Do you mean that the battery is kept on the tender, but you have it off the tender when you are getting nothing?

My first thought is, put a voltmeter to the battery and see if you are getting anything. After that I would loosen the clamps and make sure they are clean, and put them back on. Then I would start tracing the power point to point. It is rare that you wouldn't see anything if the battery has around 10-11 volts in it (not enough for it to run), and the connectors are clean. Follow power wires, as they may have come off.

 

[gunslinger_006]

Hmm. Ill go check mine.

Here you can see that there are TWO leads off the battery pos and neg:

One main cable to the starter solonoid

One battery tender pigtail I personally installed

So, for my 2012 i can say that there is and should only be ONE main cable to the battery pos and neg.

Whatever you have there op, it may not be stock. Are you the first owner?

My tenere has never has a wrench on it other than mine after it was uncrated.

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[alongrosman]

sergeyd...out of Curiosity did you check the main fuse - 50A?

 

[sergeyd]

sergeyd...out of Curiosity did you check the main fuse - 50A?

I only found 2 of the 30A. Right next to the solenoid. Where is the 50A one?
Bought a multimeter as well to follow @HeliMark advice.

 

[sergeyd]

sergeyd...out of Curiosity did you check the main fuse - 50A?

took it out. https://photos.app.goo.gl/E8TReWSfgtT9rw4C8 is it blown? never seen fuses like that

 

[alongrosman]