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After 11.5 years of content Super Tenere ownership, it's all Dirt_Dads fault for buying a KTM 1290 and letting me ride the thing when the world was in COVID lockdown. I'd been perfectly happy with the Super Tenere until I experienced how much lighter and better performing all around the 1290 is. The itch began. But no matter how great a bike the KTM is I am not going back to chains on a bike I use for long distance rides. Not happening, no matter how good the chains have gotten, all the high tech oilers, etc. That left me with the BMW GS series, Guzzi V85, Triumph Tigers, and the good old paid-for Super Tenere sitting in my garage. And so it's been since 2020 when he got the 1290.

The V85 is a FUN flickable motorcycle that just needs more motor.
Tried two Tiger 900s which I just didn't bond with and I can't even tell you why.
My friend has a 2019 Tiger Explorer and the thing is HUGE. It's faster than the Tenere but I felt like I was riding a really big horse. The new 2022 1200 Tigers had not yet come out.
The BMW GS bikes have great tech and I've rented a number of them over the years, so they're a known entity. However I've had two rentals fail on me and I just never liked the quirks of the shifter (new is FAR better) or boxer motor. Even so I recently test rode a new one and it was a nice bike with great tech.

Time passed till I saw the new 1200 Tigers and then it was a matter of money. I'm now semi-retired with a 32 ft $ailboat that works by blowing the $ail with dollar bill$ and have a fairly new (3 years) consulting biz so I've been watching expenses.

This is the point where I need to point out that like with the 900, Triumph offers two basic variants (road vs dirt) on the 1200 and the prices go up between each step between the models below:

ROAD ORIENTED:
GT This is basically the stripper to have a low price entry into a 150 hp adventure bike.

GT PRO This is what I got and it's between the BMW GS and KTM 1290 Adventure in being a road oriented bike that can go off road. Like the BMW and KTM it has most of the same tech such as active suspension with multiple modes that can be customized, TFT screen, heated grips/seat, fancy steering headlights in corners, etc. Test rode a couple and with the 19" front it's the bike the Super Tenere should've evolved into several years ago.
It's the small tank version (20L/5.2 Gal) which has most of the bells and whistles other than crash bars. (There's a minuscule aluminum bash plate protecting the bottom of the pipes.) The wet weight is 529-540 lbs (depending on source) compared to 575-584 (depending on source and before crash bars, skid plates, etc) for the Super Tenere and the weight is carried lower. It weighs close to the same as the 524 lb KTM 1290, a bit less than the GS, and 50 lbs less than the previous generation of Tiger Explorer with a much lower CG. https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/motorcycles/adventure/tiger-1200-gt/tiger-1200-gt-pro-2022

GT Explorer The big tank version (30L/7.9 Gal) which is nearly identical to the PRO but with a big tank and a couple extra smaller items. Amazingly it only weighs 6 lbs more than the PRO but the big tank on the one I rode makes it feel much bigger. Most people just put in enough gas for what they are doing because lugging around 7.9 gallons (300+ mile range) gets to be a hassle.

DIRT ORIENTED:
Rally Pro This was a fun bike as it is the dirt version of the GT PRO, adding wire spoke wheels with a 21" front, full crash bars, and dirt mode. When you see the off-road photos they are using this bike. It's taller and the weight is heavier and I felt the bigger front wheel turned in a bit slower. If I was willing to spend more and were to do a lot of off-road and gravel this would be the bike.

Rally Explorer Again, this is the dirt version of the GT Explorer with the big tank. This is what the Gen3 Explorer has evolved into and is one big motorcycle!

Day 1:
I've known Kevin Carr, owner of Romney Cycles for 11 years and he's sold a lot of bikes to people coming to Camp-N-Ride events because his overhead is so low he can generally underbid most dealers. As he says, he is a destination dealer, not the local one you keep going back to for parts and accessories. He made me a deal on a new Tiger GT Pro that I know I'll never get again so I picked up the new bike yesterday. It was a beautiful day in the high 50s and the bike was horribly frustrating as I took it down the River Road. Frustrating because I was limited to keeping it under 3,500 rpm. ;)

Seriously with the impressions of the first day and a bunch of test rides, the GT PRO feels very close to the KTM 1290 but without so much character and both are much snappier than the GS1250. Leaned into 20 mph turns at 40 the Triumph and the KTM feel like big sport bikes, but the KTM has more of an adrenaline rush accelerating out and snapping left/right, probably due to the chain and having something like 10 more hp. Both are more fun than the GS1250 and the Triumph acceleration and intake howl above 5,000 on the test bikes was addictive. The Triumph needs a bit more clutch to get moving which is something I'll get used to, and the clutchless-shifter is something I'm already getting to like.

So far the ergonomics fit me really well. It's a good thing when you get on and everything just feels natural. The bar height, seating triangle, and seat height are near identical to the Super Tenere. However, the Triumph rear seat is much higher.

Remember how we were all doing mods to flatten the seat on the Super Tenere? The Tiger also has high and low options, BUT you can flatten the seat simply by mixing so the front is high and the rear is low. So far I've found nothing wrong with the seats on the ones I've ridden but then I've only ridden for up to a half hour.

After seeing how the lighting is at night for a while I may try putting aftermarket lights where the beak is.


There's a 10A power outlet (BMW DIN style) just to the left of the instruments for GPS or other accessories, another in the back, and a phone charger under the rear seat. I really like having tire pressure monitoring built in and which will show an alert if a tire pressure falls while riding.

The stock windscreen is a bit small but no issues with wind. I like how easily you can move it up or down just by grabbing the little cross bar. Folks on the forums found a little top air deflector and there's a touring screen available.

It's quite narrow to stand across! (demo GT PRO)


Unfortunately it was delivered with street tires (Metzeler Tourance) so I'll be staying away from anything harder than easy gravel and dirt for now. Besides, I don't have bars or a skid plate yet.


So far the dislikes:
The TFT screen is great and very much like the KTM and BMW - however WHAT they display is stupid!!! This is the first bike I've probably ever owned that doesn't have an odometer on the home screen and I am starting to realize how much I refer to it. The odometer is on the service page (wtf??!!) and there are two trip meters just a couple clicks away, but the software engineers should be hung for how you need to keep searching for basic info.

The Triumph phone app can put turn by turn directions on the screen via BT but to keep the phone powered you need to figure how to mount it to the bars or need to lock your phone under the rear seat in the special foam lined holder. I've never liked turn by turn directions versus seeing an actual map and putting the phone in that holder is a hard no.

While the power is provided for a GPS they didn't give a nice convenient place to mount one, so the aftermarket has a number of solutions.

I haven't had my lady on the pillion seat yet but from my sitting there it is less comfortable than the Tenere. Gotta qualify this by saying that I flattened the Tenere rear seat with some custom spacers. The bar height, seating triangle, and seat height are near identical to the Super Tenere, but the Triumph is generally a bit taller and that rear seat is probably about 4 inches higher. It's a perch.

I think over time, the size of the fuel tank will be an ongoing issue because just like in the Goldilocks story there's a too little, too big, and just right. The Super Tenere 6 gallon tank is great for long distance and the 5.2 on the Tiger (according to forums) puts you on reserve at 180-200 miles. I really struggled with whether to get he 7.9 gallons on the Explorer but for most riding it's just always big and there.
 
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Congrats on your new ride. It's a beauty. I look forward to more of your assessments after you have the break-in miles behind you and can fully unleash it's power. I can fully relate to your thoughts on the TFT screen information layouts. It gets easier with familiarity. Also, I think you will like that triple engine and the added power compared to the trusty Tenere. Hopefully I will be able to make the Romney event this year. Trying to get all my ducks in a row to make that happen. Enjoy that new ride :)

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Congrats on your new ride. It's a beauty. I look forward to more of your assessments after you have the break-in miles behind you and can fully unleash it's power. I can fully relate to your thoughts on the TFT screen information layouts. It gets easier with familiarity. Also, I think you will like that triple engine and the added power compared to the trusty Tenere. Hopefully I will be able to make the Romney event this year. Trying to get all my ducks in a row to make that happen. Enjoy that new ride :)

Steve
It'd be great to see you again if you can make it.
 

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After 11.5 years of content Super Tenere ownership, it's all Dirt_Dads fault for buying a KTM 1290 and letting me ride the thing when the world was in COVID lockdown. I'd been perfectly happy with the Super Tenere until I experienced how much lighter and better performing all around the 1290 is. The itch began. But no matter how great a bike the KTM is I am not going back to chains on a bike I use for long distance rides. Not happening, no matter how good the chains have gotten, all the high tech oilers, etc. That left me with the BMW GS series, Guzzi V85, Triumph Tigers, and the good old paid-for Super Tenere sitting in my garage. And so it's been since 2020 when he got the 1290.

The V85 is a FUN flickable motorcycle that just needs more motor.
Tried two Tiger 900s which I just didn't bond with and I can't even tell you why.
My friend has a 2019 Tiger Explorer and the thing is HUGE. It's faster than the Tenere but I felt like I was riding a really big horse. The new 2022 1200 Tigers had not yet come out.
The BMW GS bikes have great tech and I've rented a number of them over the years, so they're a known entity. However I've had two rentals fail on me and I just never liked the quirks of the shifter (new is FAR better) or boxer motor. Even so I recently test rode a new one and it was a nice bike with great tech.

Time passed till I saw the new 1200 Tigers and then it was a matter of money. I'm now semi-retired with a 32 ft $ailboat that works by blowing the $ail with dollar bill$ and have a fairly new (3 years) consulting biz so I've been watching expenses.

This is the point where I need to point out that like with the 900, Triumph offers two basic variants (road vs dirt) on the 1200 and the prices go up between each step between the models below:

ROAD ORIENTED:
GT This is basically the stripper to have a low price entry into a 150 hp adventure bike.

GT PRO This is what I got and it's between the BMW GS and KTM 1290 Adventure in being a road oriented bike that can go off road. Like the BMW and KTM it has most of the same tech such as active suspension with multiple modes that can be customized, TFT screen, heated grips/seat, fancy steering headlights in corners, etc. Test rode a couple and with the 19" front it's the bike the Super Tenere should've evolved into several years ago.
It's the small tank version (20L/5.2 Gal) which has most of the bells and whistles other than crash bars. (There's a minuscule aluminum bash plate protecting the bottom of the pipes.) The wet weight is 529-540 lbs (depending on source) compared to 575-584 (depending on source and before crash bars, skid plates, etc) for the Super Tenere and the weight is carried lower. It weighs close to the same as the 524 lb KTM 1290, a bit less than the GS, and 50 lbs less than the previous generation of Tiger Explorer with a much lower CG. https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/motorcycles/adventure/tiger-1200-gt/tiger-1200-gt-pro-2022

GT Explorer The big tank version (30L/7.9 Gal) which is nearly identical to the PRO but with a big tank and a couple extra smaller items. Amazingly it only weighs 6 lbs more than the PRO but the big tank on the one I rode makes it feel much bigger. Most people just put in enough gas for what they are doing because lugging around 7.9 gallons (300+ mile range) gets to be a hassle.

DIRT ORIENTED:
Rally Pro This was a fun bike as it is the dirt version of the GT PRO, adding wire spoke wheels with a 21" front, full crash bars, and dirt mode. When you see the off-road photos they are using this bike. It's taller and the weight is heavier and I felt the bigger front wheel turned in a bit slower. If I was willing to spend more and were to do a lot of off-road and gravel this would be the bike.

Rally Explorer Again, this is the dirt version of the GT Explorer with the big tank. This is what the Gen3 Explorer has evolved into and is one big motorcycle!

Day 1:
I've known Kevin Carr, owner of Romney Cycles for 11 years and he's sold a lot of bikes to people coming to Camp-N-Ride events because his overhead is so low he can generally underbid most dealers. As he says, he is a destination dealer, not the local one you keep going back to for parts and accessories. He made me a deal on a new Tiger GT Pro that I know I'll never get again so I picked up the new bike yesterday. It was a beautiful day in the high 50s and the bike was horribly frustrating as I took it down the River Road. Frustrating because I was limited to keeping it under 3,500 rpm. ;)

Seriously with the impressions of the first day and a bunch of test rides, the GT PRO feels very close to the KTM 1290 but without so much character and both are much snappier than the GS1250. Leaned into 20 mph turns at 40 the Triumph and the KTM feel like big sport bikes, but the KTM has more of an adrenaline rush accelerating out and snapping left/right, probably due to the chain and having something like 10 more hp. Both are more fun than the GS1250 and the Triumph acceleration and intake howl above 5,000 on the test bikes was addictive. The Triumph needs a bit more clutch to get moving which is something I'll get used to, and the clutchless-shifter is something I'm already getting to like.

So far the ergonomics fit me really well. It's a good thing when you get on and everything just feels natural. The bar height, seating triangle, and seat height are near identical to the Super Tenere. However, the Triumph rear seat is much higher.

Remember how we were all doing mods to flatten the seat on the Super Tenere? The Tiger also has high and low options, BUT you can flatten the seat simply by mixing so the front is high and the rear is low. So far I've found nothing wrong with the seats on the ones I've ridden but then I've only ridden for up to a half hour.

After seeing how the lighting is at night for a while I may try putting aftermarket lights where the beak is.


There's a 10A power outlet (BMW DIN style) just to the left of the instruments for GPS or other accessories, another in the back, and a phone charger under the rear seat. I really like having tire pressure monitoring built in and which will show an alert if a tire pressure falls while riding.

The stock windscreen is a bit small but no issues with wind. I like how easily you can move it up or down just by grabbing the little cross bar. Folks on the forums found a little top air deflector and there's a touring screen available.

It's quite narrow to stand across! (demo GT PRO)


Unfortunately it was delivered with street tires (Metzeler Tourance) so I'll be staying away from anything harder than easy gravel and dirt for now. Besides, I don't have bars or a skid plate yet.


So far the dislikes:
The TFT screen is great and very much like the KTM and BMW - however WHAT they display is stupid!!! This is the first bike I've probably ever owned that doesn't have an odometer on the home screen and I am starting to realize how much I refer to it. The odometer is on the service page (wtf??!!) and there are two trip meters just a couple clicks away, but the software engineers should be hung for how you need to keep searching for basic info.

The Triumph phone app can put turn by turn directions on the screen via BT but to keep the phone powered you need to figure how to mount it to the bars or need to lock your phone under the rear seat in the special foam lined holder. I've never liked turn by turn directions versus seeing an actual map and putting the phone in that holder is a hard no.

While the power is provided for a GPS they didn't give a nice convenient place to mount one, so the aftermarket has a number of solutions.

I haven't had my lady on the pillion seat yet but from my sitting there it is less comfortable than the Tenere. Gotta qualify this by saying that I flattened the Tenere rear seat with some custom spacers. The bar height, seating triangle, and seat height are near identical to the Super Tenere, but the Triumph is generally a bit taller and that rear seat is probably about 4 inches higher. It's a perch.

I think over time, the size of the fuel tank will be an ongoing issue because just like in the Goldilocks story there's a too little, too big, and just right. The Super Tenere 6 gallon tank is great for long distance and the 5.2 on the Tiger (according to forums) puts you on reserve at 180-200 miles. I really struggled with whether to get he 7.9 gallons on the Explorer but for most riding it's just always big and there.
Nice bike. Enjoy.
 

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Im very interested in your thoughts, on the motor. Ive read that the mid-top end is excellent and the bikes HP speaks for itself. When you have more time on the bike, Im looking forward to your thoughts...... Thanks so much for sharing this post !

It also looks like your new bike has the nice Brimbo brakes on the front? How do you like these so far? Once they bed in, I'm sure they will be incredible.
 
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Somehow it's always my fault.

I just happy you finally took my needs into consideration and bought the bike I've been requesting you get for the last few months. A little late, but thank you. :)

Seriously, congrats. I'm really happy for both you and Kevin. I love it when everyone wins. I appreciate how you were able to stick to your 'no chain' principles and end up with such a fantastic looking, and sounds like performing bike.

So much to learn and adapt to. It takes time to truely understand what you have. I hope your enjoyment of the bike continues to grow with every ride.

It's not my fault. :cool:
 

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Mine is the Explorer with the larger tank but also the driving lights, really like them. I do like the size of the Tenere's gas tank, it was just right but with the Explorer I can fill it up, but don't have to, that option is really nice. The one big thing I noticed was riding over tar snakes and broken pavement, on the Tiger it just eats it up and smooths it right out vs feeling every bump on the Tenere.
As a bonus my insurance was not a lot more, not that it would be a deal breaker.
Glad you like it!
 

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Congrats on the new bike! Hope you really enjoy it. New is always different, be patient it will become familiar.
 

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Congrats on the new bike also. Been hearing a lot of great things about it. I am amazed that the fuel tank on it is the same size as my 900. As far as the display, if you watch very closely, you will see the odometer when you turn the key for one second, otherwise, like you said, the service page. Never understood why they treat the odometer like it is a state secret.

The "T" plan engine is nice low, but is very addictive in the 7-8,000+ RPM range.
 

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Now that I finally have 450 miles on it and can rev to 7,000 rpm . . .

Really like it on longer rides and how narrow it is in the waist area. Ergonomics are great.
Much lighter in handling than the Super Tenere was.
Wind protection is surprisingly good with how small the screen is.
The engine is absolutely addictive especially with the lighter weight. Turn off the TCS and it's hard to keep the front wheel down. The intake howl as it gets above 4,000 puts a grin on your face.
Braking and ABS is excellent. Has quite a bit of nose dive if the suspension is set soft but you adapt fast or just keep it firm.
Starting to appreciate being able to adjust the suspension as conditions need. I didn't have ES on my Tenere but this is better than the ES bikes I remember riding.
Hill assist is something I surprisingly use a lot and have come to appreciate.
Still getting used to the clutchless shifting and starting to appreciate it.
There is zero issue with heat. More than the Tenere, they have a chute which moves the cooling air outboard.
Like that the seat can be high, low, OR the settings can be mixed to flatten it. (That was something we had to learn to mod the Tenere seat to do.)
Laid it on the side on the grass and while another big pig, picking up was not a problem.
Jackie was surprisingly OK with the pillion seat despite the height. She gets the air pad for rides over an hour.
Love having TPMS built in. I never want to do another blow-out like the one I had several years ago and now the TPMS will alert me long before that can happen.

Biggest dislikes are fairly minor in the overall scheme.
The height. I mount it like a horse, using the left foot peg because of the height, but the height can be a hassle when getting off or on when on gravel. Most of the time not an issue.
First gear is too tall, as idle speed is 11 mph. The difference between the Super Tenere being about 7 mph is surprisingly big.
The seat does get hard after the first hour so I either stand regularly or take the little air pad.
Programming for the electronics must have been left to the nerds in the back room who still ride 2-stroke Vespas.
Biggest programming issue is needing to come to a full stop to disable the traction control. (This is a GT version so no off-road mode)
Second biggest is not having the odometer on the main screen.
When you flash the high beam it turns off the daytime running lights so you need to push the button again.
The Triumph app to connect with your phone is such horse shit that I and sounds like most other owners don't bother. Plus, I now have a Zumo XT.
(Told ya this were minor complaints.)
 

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When you rev it up that high just hang on, you can really feel the pull. Oh and watch the speedo, you will be in the triple digits before you know it and especially if you use the speed shifter. Has taken me a little while to get used to it but absolutely love it now. Clutch is just for first, up and down are all just a tap away.
I did not care for the windscreen so went with a Givi touring and has made a big difference but with the Madstad on the Tenere I thought the S10 was a little cleaner for air flow going over. I don't really have an issue with the phone app but honestly I do not use it very much.
The brakes on the Tiger are really good, strong but light on the touch.
The fuel gage is pretty good but no idea who designed that TFT, you get used to it. Would love the one on the Indian that you can move stuff around and put what you want on it. Now that is sweet!
 

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Now that I finally have 450 miles on it and can rev to 7,000 rpm . . .

Really like it on longer rides and how narrow it is in the waist area. Ergonomics are great.
Much lighter in handling than the Super Tenere was.
Wind protection is surprisingly good with how small the screen is.
The engine is absolutely addictive especially with the lighter weight. Turn off the TCS and it's hard to keep the front wheel down. The intake howl as it gets above 4,000 puts a grin on your face.
Braking and ABS is excellent. Has quite a bit of nose dive if the suspension is set soft but you adapt fast or just keep it firm.
Starting to appreciate being able to adjust the suspension as conditions need. I didn't have ES on my Tenere but this is better than the ES bikes I remember riding.
Hill assist is something I surprisingly use a lot and have come to appreciate.
Still getting used to the clutchless shifting and starting to appreciate it.
There is zero issue with heat. More than the Tenere, they have a chute which moves the cooling air outboard.
Like that the seat can be high, low, OR the settings can be mixed to flatten it. (That was something we had to learn to mod the Tenere seat to do.)
Laid it on the side on the grass and while another big pig, picking up was not a problem.
Jackie was surprisingly OK with the pillion seat despite the height. She gets the air pad for rides over an hour.
Love having TPMS built in. I never want to do another blow-out like the one I had several years ago and now the TPMS will alert me long before that can happen.

Biggest dislikes are fairly minor in the overall scheme.
The height. I mount it like a horse, using the left foot peg because of the height, but the height can be a hassle when getting off or on when on gravel. Most of the time not an issue.
First gear is too tall, as idle speed is 11 mph. The difference between the Super Tenere being about 7 mph is surprisingly big.
The seat does get hard after the first hour so I either stand regularly or take the little air pad.
Programming for the electronics must have been left to the nerds in the back room who still ride 2-stroke Vespas.
Biggest programming issue is needing to come to a full stop to disable the traction control. (This is a GT version so no off-road mode)
Second biggest is not having the odometer on the main screen.
When you flash the high beam it turns off the daytime running lights so you need to push the button again.
The Triumph app to connect with your phone is such horse shit that I and sounds like most other owners don't bother. Plus, I now have a Zumo XT.
(Told ya this were minor complaints.)
It's great to hear the bike is ticking so many boxes for you. It's amazing what a modern, well designed bike can do to add satisfaction to your ride.

Hard to keep the front wheel down...I don't even know how to respond to that one.
 

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Talked to Triumph owner this weekend, owns a 2022 that he bought brandnew last year, has 4,500 miles on it now and was really liking it, transmission went out so it’s supposedly getting fixed under warranty, dealer loaned him a 2023 Yamaha FJR to use while the Triumph is getting fixed, they figure it will take at least a month to get it back on the road.
 

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Had a couple folks ask for an update on the Tiger so...

Still enjoying the new bike but haven't yet had that *click* where you just know it's one that you can't imagine being without. Still glad I moved on from the Tenere because I had new bike itch for at least a couple of years and the Tiger really is a great next bike, especially when the tach sweeps past about 4-5,000 rpm and you have it leaned over. BIG GRINS!!! The triple engine is just addictive in having most of the grunt of a twin yet the smooth power of a four. At the first service when we were all at Romney the tech did some software updates and somehow the bike runs even better than before.

It's a couple pounds lighter than the GS and is more powerful so those aren't the issue and I'm not worried about what is going to break so I still prefer the Tiger, but it's just so polished it doesn't have the addictive properties of the KTM 1290. (The Tiger 12 also wheels REALLY well when TCS is disabled!) I think the thing that bugs me most is simply the height, especially of the back seat, since getting on and off usually means mounting the foot peg like a horse. When 2-up, my 5'10" lady is high enough that I feel it whenever she simply moves to change which of my shoulders she is looking over. The mounting process gets even harder when the boxes are on.


Like I said, I am enjoying it so can't see moving on just yet, but as I get into my later 60s I do keep thinking back on the 456 pound Scrambler 1200 XEs that we test rode at the Romney event. It made me smile and the flat seat definitely makes it a better 2-up bike as well, but the tank is smaller than I'd like range-wise and it means going back to a chain. Current thought is to stay with the Tiger till at least when the new 1000 Guzzi Stelio comes out this winter, compare the three, and then see where my thoughts are at.

In the meantime, one of the issues has been the limited choices in how to mount a phone or GPS so my son with the 3D printer and I started selling two styles of mounts and I thought at least some of you (RCinNC) all might get a kick out of our video.

 

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Talked to Triumph owner this weekend, owns a 2022 that he bought brandnew last year, has 4,500 miles on it now and was really liking it, transmission went out so it’s supposedly getting fixed under warranty, dealer loaned him a 2023 Yamaha FJR to use while the Triumph is getting fixed, they figure it will take at least a month to get it back on the road.
Well turned out the problem wasn’t the transmission, it was contaminated clutch fluid causing the problems ! They are having trouble getting replacement parts so the owner doesn’t want anything to do with it anymore, he traded the 2022 Triumph for the 2023 Yamaha FJR that they had loaned him to use. He is one those guys that usually gets a brandnew bike every couple years.
 

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Had a couple folks ask for an update on the Tiger so...

Still enjoying the new bike but haven't yet had that *click* where you just know it's one that you can't imagine being without. Still glad I moved on from the Tenere because I had new bike itch for at least a couple of years and the Tiger really is a great next bike, especially when the tach sweeps past about 4-5,000 rpm and you have it leaned over. BIG GRINS!!! The triple engine is just addictive in having most of the grunt of a twin yet the smooth power of a four. At the first service when we were all at Romney the tech did some software updates and somehow the bike runs even better than before.

It's a couple pounds lighter than the GS and is more powerful so those aren't the issue and I'm not worried about what is going to break so I still prefer the Tiger, but it's just so polished it doesn't have the addictive properties of the KTM 1290. (The Tiger 12 also wheels REALLY well when TCS is disabled!) I think the thing that bugs me most is simply the height, especially of the back seat, since getting on and off usually means mounting the foot peg like a horse. When 2-up, my 5'10" lady is high enough that I feel it whenever she simply moves to change which of my shoulders she is looking over. The mounting process gets even harder when the boxes are on.


Like I said, I am enjoying it so can't see moving on just yet, but as I get into my later 60s I do keep thinking back on the 456 pound Scrambler 1200 XEs that we test rode at the Romney event. It made me smile and the flat seat definitely makes it a better 2-up bike as well, but the tank is smaller than I'd like range-wise and it means going back to a chain. Current thought is to stay with the Tiger till at least when the new 1000 Guzzi Stelio comes out this winter, compare the three, and then see where my thoughts are at.

In the meantime, one of the issues has been the limited choices in how to mount a phone or GPS so my son with the 3D printer and I started selling two styles of mounts and I thought at least some of you (RCinNC) all might get a kick out of our video.

Really dont get why Triumph dont put a bigger tank on the Scrambler. The new Guzzi looks to be a good bike. Only test rode the 1200 Explorer back in the day but when that engine picks up its great.
 
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