Trading in S10 for a KLR...

adventurelounger

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For a week! Only for a week!

I'm from the East Coast and will be meeting my old college pal from the West Coast to ride some of the Utah BDR in July. We're renting from Great Rides Utah...I opted for a KLR, and my buddy's taking a DR650. They don't offer Teneres, and renting a big GS kinda felt like treason.

I've never been on a KLR, but had a 650 single (BMWF650GS) a few years ago. Any thoughts on what to expect? I'm guessing slower, harsher, less comfortable on the (limited) slab we'll have to do to get out of SLC...but a lot lighter and less of a handful on dirt. Any KLR owners—current or past—care to weigh in?
 

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It's the bike I bought when I re-discovered riding dirt roads again in 2008. I had a great time on mine and for a week you will surely enjoy yourself.
 

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I loved MY KLR, great DP bike, however if your spending most your time off road ride a DR, it is more on the dirt side with the KLR More on the street side.
 

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There is a reason Kawasaki continues to build and sell that thing since 1986?

Almost unchanged, by the way.
 

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...but a lot lighter and less of a handful on dirt. Any KLR owners—current or past—care to weigh in?
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Not much lighter, got rid of mine last fall. Depending on how they have it set up mine was long legged in first gear and difficult on steep hills. Chain and sprockets cured that. It was a very faithful bike, and cheep.
 

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Wow, you mean there is somebody who has not had a KLR? [j/k]


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Hey Fred great counsel! I'm gonna be wearing ATGATT, including an armored Rev'It Kit, and off-road boots. Didn't plan for an airbag vest...but I did pick up a Leatt neck brace which I'm going to wear. I'm pretty safety conscious and conservative but am also trying to balance care with reason.

Hadn't even ever occurred to me that those airbag vests were really out there and ready for prime time, but will check them out!

All other points appreciated and taken!
 

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Remember, it's a thumper so keep the revs relatively high.
It's a FUN bike to ride.
I like to think of my S10 as a "Refined" KLR. ::013::
 

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snakebitten said:
There is a reason Kawasaki continues to build and sell that thing since 1986?

Almost unchanged, by the way.
And still apparently beyond Kawasaki to place a proper Doo hicky and actually fill their forks with the proper amount of oil, not to mention the brakes are about as close to flintstone feet as possible.
Otherwise loved it :D
 

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Yes, still ride mine regularly. It is the Teneres little brother. Each bike has its purpose.
Some Dirt and comfort, long miles

More dirt, less miles

Serious dirt, short trips
 

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"very dirt focused" ???


"unstable at freeway speeds" ???


:))


It's just an older version of the F650GS the original question compared it to. One of the great things about the KLR is if ever there was a bike telling when it's limits were being reached before you reach them, this is it. Do check the oil regularly if running freeway speeds.


I think of this clip every time I see one:
http://youtu.be/Ctin21yrfcA
 

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I've had a 2014.5 (New Edition) KLR 650 for a little over a year; got it a few months before I got a 2013 Super Tenere. I've used the KLR mostly for dirt roads, crappy back roads, and some off roading. But, it's been on highways and pretty much all types of roads. I just recently bought some better dirt tires and took it through some pretty decent off roading, hill climbs, giant mud puddles and water crossing, and just a lot of rough dirt trails and a very small amount of single track stuff. I've never taken the ST offroading, and I doubt I ever will, so I can't compare the ST and the KLR when it comes to offroading.

The KLR should be plenty comfortable on the highway, but probably not as comfortable to you as the ST. I wouldn't hesitate taking the KLR on a long road trip. Around town and on back roads, the KLR is a ton of fun and manuevers surprisingly well. It vibrates a decent amount at highway speeds, but cruising around below 60 mph isn't bad at all. I don't think it's bad at highway speeds either, but the vibes pick up a lot at higher rpms. I don't think the KLR is harsh at all. The KLR is much slower to accelerate than the ST, but up to 65 mph seems to be quicker than must cars. The acceleration beyond 65 is pretty sad, to be honest. It'll cruise fine at 75 mph and probably faster than than, but just doesn't have much motivation to accelerate once you get to around 65 mph. Depending on the tires, the bike should feel stable on the highway. The OEM tires seemed great to me on the road. The tires I have on now (Michelin T63) are fine, but feel less stable and kind of move around on the road a little (nothing scary or anything, in my opinion, but you notice it happening). I don't know what year you'll be renting, but the bike I bought (and the models after) have upgraded suspension to make it better for offroading and I guess street riding too, from what I read. I never had an older KLR to compare mine too. The point being, I'm sure that if you're doing light offroading, the KLR will be fine, unless they don't have decent offroad tires on it. It's heavy for offroading, but still a lot lighter than the ST, so it should be easier and less scary to deal with off roading. I'm a short guy (5'7"), so maybe you tall guys don't have a problem with the ST offroad, but I can't imagine taking the ST through the offroading I've done on the KLR.

adventurelounger said:
For a week! Only for a week!

I'm from the East Coast and will be meeting my old college pal from the West Coast to ride some of the Utah BDR in July. We're renting from Great Rides Utah...I opted for a KLR, and my buddy's taking a DR650. They don't offer Teneres, and renting a big GS kinda felt like treason.

I've never been on a KLR, but had a 650 single (BMWF650GS) a few years ago. Any thoughts on what to expect? I'm guessing slower, harsher, less comfortable on the (limited) slab we'll have to do to get out of SLC...but a lot lighter and less of a handful on dirt. Any KLR owners—current or past—care to weigh in?
 

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Checkswrecks said:
"very dirt focused" ???


"unstable at freeway speeds" ???


:))


It's just an older version of the F650GS the original question compared it to. One of the great things about the KLR is if ever there was a bike telling when it's limits were being reached before you reach them, this is it. Do check the oil regularly if running freeway speeds.


I think of this clip every time I see one:
http://youtu.be/Ctin21yrfcA
The oil consumption problem pretty much ended in 10. Previously in the "next generation" it was hit or miss. My 08 only consumed a little bit of oil between changes of if I tried to run it at 80 mph, which was apparently good but nothing to worry about. Most merely needed a check ever few hundred miles, it was far over stated.

Going up one sprocket size in the front made the KLR a decent highway machine all be it a bit buzzy still, with the front brakes would be its demise overall, at least for me.
Riding two up and loaded down I was unable to at an intersection which was at the bottom of I suppose a four percent grade, uhgg.

The S10 IMO is, far, far better balanced on dirt despite its larger size. I think the GS 650 is probably a better dirt ride simply do to its lower center of gravity. Its smaller front wheel would of course be a hindrance in some situations but to be fair, those sized bikes are not really dirt bikes anyhow.
 

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As an aspiring ST owner and a current KLR owner I love both bikes. You know how when you walk into a grocery store and they're handing out free samples and you basically eat dinner there? Thats my riding an ST experience at Bike Weeks and the AIM Expo. Its the KLR way!

Anyway, being on my second one I feel the bike is very predictable on the highway and with enough speed a beast in sugar sand. Does take getting acclimated to giving more throttle when the terra firma gets "terra softa".


Camping trips to Alabama:



This smilie seems appropriate: ::021:: enjoy the trip and post pics. Would love to ride out there someday.
 

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::009::... I hated my KLR and I would never go back. Don't get me wrong, it can do a lot but it can't do anything, and I mean anything, well. It is slow (maybe 40hp on a good day, which is horrible); it's uncomfortable (stock seat sucks and it vibrates - positive for the 2-up I guess); it has a high profile and is relatively light (the wind will slap you around like you're a redhead stepchild); it's incredible boring (it looks boring, it sounds boring, there's nothing exiting about it at all); it sticks out among other DS bikes in that cc range as more of a ADV tourer rather than DS. I found it awkward off-road compared to the DR and especially the DRZ. The DR is far superior off-road than the KLR. If you're planning to ride mostly off-road or 50/50 I'd go for the DR650. If you're looking at any freeway riding or higher speeds on slab I'd recommend the KLR. I wish I'd tried out my KLR for a week before I bought it, but then again, I waited longer than a week to seal the deal with my ex-wife and that didn't work out either. Now I got a much prettier bike and a new and more well rounded wife ::025::
 
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