Touring fully loaded?

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Mine's a 2014 ES....not had any issues two up with hard cases..but we would like to do a bit of camping on the bike...
A bit of feedback on how the bike has coped with being two up and loaded to the gunnels would be appreciated..

(We are approx 380lb between us )

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The best advice I ever received on the topic was to "pack like you are on a backpacking trip" . Lightweight, minimalist choices in gear, clothing etc and I think you'd be fine. Unfortunately, mine's a 2012 with standard suspension, so I can't help with the ES, but I've had mine loaded up very heavy with no issues other than a manual crank of the preload.
 

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Thought of using bags on the crash bars to bring some of the weight forward a bit? Wouldn't be for big bits but every little helps!
 

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yoyo said:
Thought of using bags on the crash bars to bring some of the weight forward a bit? Wouldn't be for big bits but every little helps!
Another good idea.. I'm also looking at getting SWMBO her own bike.. Got to decide if she'd use it as we've been there before and it didn't work out :question:
 

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^ that is ~50kg.

As it happens i'm just loading up for my Norway trip - leaving in about 2 hours.

I'll be camping + cooking for a couple of weeks, only planned purchases are perishable food items + fuel - adding a second person would only really be clothes + sleeping bag. I'll be dropping the top-box and getting the two-piece alt-rider rack for a couple of hold-alls.

IMHO the bike handles being heavily loaded extremely well - it is heavy to begin with & pretty docile, plus the engine is low + I find this leaves turn-in feel less effected than other bikes i've had.
 

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Bryn said:
Another good idea.. I'm also looking at getting SWMBO her own bike.. Got to decide if she'd use it as we've been there before and it didn't work out :question:
My Mrs owns a Fazer 600, notice I said owns not rides!! 52 miles last year, such a waste!

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I have a 2014 non ES, and I've ridden loaded two-up all over the country, all the way out to Nebraska and up to Maine. I honestly don't know how much the whole load was, but 450 lbs wouldn't be out of the ballpark. I couldn't be more pleased with a two up touring machine; I like it way better than I liked touring on my Harley Road King. Never any issues with a lack of power, or problems with handling; it even still got decent mileage. I may throw caution to the winds at some point and upgrade the suspension for loaded touring, but it's not something I feel has to be done immediately.

This is the bike out in Missouri. As you can see, I have three large cases on it (they're a little bigger than a Pelican 1550). The topcase has supports that transfer part of the load down to the crossover bar on the luggage racks. We are careful what we pack, and we use a lot of backpacking gear when we travel, but it's still a pretty good load when it's two people for a ten day trip.
 

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Think of it like a Chevy Tahoe.
Two up or towing the camper trailer, the bike is a big SUV and won't mind.
 

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Thanks for all the replies and pics folks....

It's an easy thing to dive in and get her a bike, but I do fear it will just sit there ... Easiest option ( and cheapest I think) would be to upgrade the rear rack and down the line look at upgrading the rear Spring

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I think a lot is down to the individual, I am quite fussy and like to be able to swing on the throttle a fair bit, and even two-up I like to be able to use the grunt / power out of bends.

Most bikes I have owned have struggled two-up on OE suspension, some where better than others, but most would wallow a bit on faster bends and run wide if winding it on fairly hard out of turns as the back of the bike sank under the power and weight.

Most bikes I found where much better if I rode more steadily (which two-up I do to a degree) but the fact I could not ride how I wanted at times annoyed me enough to go and spend some dosh on better suspension.

My Gen1 S10 was no exception and also suffered very badly with ground clearance, on the stock suspension solo with an extra couple of lines on the pre-load I did not notice a ground clearance issue on the (Crap) UK roads near me, two-up with full pre-load it was not hard to find the limit of ground clearance, with two people and luggage it was frustratingly easy to run out of clearance even on what I considered a steady touring pace.

I always do a loaded test run on a new bike, just a weekend away, on the S10 this convinced me I needed a new shock before any long tours.

The Mrs getting her own bike worked out very well for us as she is a good confident rider and can maintain a decent touring pace, we can actually do more miles in a day now as we both find it more comfortable not sharing a bike so stop less and her solo pace is as good or better than our two-up pace was - and I can occasionally wind it right up without the kidney punches.
 

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Trouble is I've been there before getting her a bike...she had a 650 GS twin, and lost all confidence on a single track road in wales when an oncoming car basically drove at her forcing her onto the verge. The bike stalled and she fell off sideways.... Then on the way home we had biblical rain and it was cold. By the time we got home she was crying like a baby.

At least if she's on the back I don't have to worry about her :mad:
 

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I have a 2014 ES and have done just under 19000 miles on it. I do a lot of 2 - up travelling with shed loads of luggage. With 2 weeks worth of clothes, camping gear etc the bike copes remarkably well. Admittedly SWMBO is slight of build and we have perfected packing light over the years. But even so the bike gets loaded like a pack horse. I find the 2-up with luggage setting works fine for me, occasionally I'll up it from std to hard, but mostly the suspension is set to standard. I've got an AltRider rear rack which helps when loading the beast, and RokStraps are a wonderful invention.

Obviously YMMV but I'm content with the bike std suspension capabilities.

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Bryn, Mrs comes on some of me bike camps n me Mk1 Tenere handles it no probs. I know you can make things even better if you throw more money at it, but its an non issue to me at least to start. ::) If I thought I'd be going off road some, maybe then it'd be a consideration.., but I don't in the UK. Pot holes, back road dirt tracks n grass camp fields is the worst of it. Full tank of fuel, fill the OE panniers, topbox, buldging holdalls either side of the cases, large tank bag up front n we even take the bloody DOG n the big Yam just gets on with it... Handles fine in me own humbles. We don't need to pussy about to enjoy this machine Still, if ya likes a light wallet... ???
 

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Might try pulling a trailer. This is a 1995 Bushtec, weighs about 125 lbs, and we put about 150 lbs in it when we go camping.
lightens the load on the bikes suspension, as we adjust the load for about 40 lbs of tongue weight.
pulls like a dream, holds ALL our camping gear, and lets the little woman use a WHOLE saddlebag for her stuff.
The hitch was about $350, and I got it from a member here on the forum that makes them...

 

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Do a search and there are several threads about towing trailers with the bike. Mine's larger than most yet the Tenere handles it fine as long as you don't treat it like a dirt bike while the trailer is hitched. I've got roughly 300 pounds of gear that I haul and most of the weight is off of the bike.
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=11146.60
 

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Hi Bryn, any chance you can post a side and rear view of your bike with the Ardcases on. Would like to see how much room there is between the passenger pegs and the boxes.
 
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