Right on I was a beta tester/customer on th new oilhead RT back in late 99', what a bunch of BS that company is. The apoligists will just keep making excuses.Rasher said:Normally if you mention any common faults to a BMW owner they bang on about "how many they have sold yawn, bore, waffle", of course if you mention three common faults before a single bike has been sold and you will get some more waffle about how this just proves "how great BMW are for being concerned about such small issues that other manufacturers would not have fixed them so quickly, yawn, bore, waffle"
Makes you wonder how many more will crop up once the thousands of BMW beta testers (sorry, I mean loyal customers) start testing (Ooops, I mean riding) them.
I thought they added the steering stabilizers to fix that issue...oh wait that was not an issue, they just thought it would be cool to add a steering stabilizer for no reason.Goldwing said:WOW, this is interesting because at last years Americade Rally, I rode the GS and thought that the fornt end was VERY unstable; to the point that it slowed me down!! I guess I got one of the back ones!!
I can't wait until I get my new 2014 ES!!!!!!!!!
Didg said:I was chatting to a riding buddy of mine today. He has a BMW R1200RT and he has had LOADS of problems with it.
It currently has a vibration problem that is so bad over 70mph it's unrideable. He's booked it in for them to have a look at and they are saying it could be a balance shaft problem or a final drive problem or maybe something to do with the throttle. :-\
This was after deciding which dealer he was going to speak to as there are 3 he won't use anymore due to bad service.
Also, when finances allow he wants to trade up to another BMW RT. He also has a BMW 6 series car which is off the road.
So I asked him "why do you continue to keep throwing money at your BM's and why do you put up with the bad service, high prices etc blah blah?" And he said........................"I just love them" ??? ::002:: : It really does defy logic. ::025::
Big Blu said:What defies logic, at least to me, is why folks spend soooo much time and energy putting down other bikes. It seems as if, perhaps, they search for justification for their own choice, a bit of insecurity maybe. ) ) :-*
Paul
Ha!! This is the main reason I moved on from my GS. I'm one of the "lucky" bmw owners to have 2 dealers close to me. Both of them are horrible at what they do. In the end I was hauling my bike 200 miles away to the only dealer that was giving me any kind of respect as an owner. The surprising/sad thing... I wasn't the only person dissatisfied with local service from my town taking my bike to that dealership.Didg said:I was chatting to a riding buddy of mine today. He has a BMW R1200RT and he has had LOADS of problems with it.
It currently has a vibration problem that is so bad over 70mph it's unrideable. He's booked it in for them to have a look at and they are saying it could be a balance shaft problem or a final drive problem or maybe something to do with the throttle. :-\
This was after deciding which dealer he was going to speak to as there are 3 he won't use anymore due to bad service.
Also, when finances allow he wants to trade up to another BMW RT. He also has a BMW 6 series car which is off the road.
So I asked him "why do you continue to keep throwing money at your BM's and why do you put up with the bad service, high prices etc blah blah?" And he said........................"I just love them" ??? ::002:: : It really does defy logic. ::025::
They're just as disrespectful to their car owing clients. I've had four to date and I'm just about to swap the latest for a Ford pick up!Whorepedo said:... Ha!! This is the main reason I moved on from my GS. I'm one of the "lucky" bmw owners to have 2 dealers close to me. Both of them are horrible at what they do. In the end I was hauling my bike 200 miles away to the only dealer that was giving me any kind of respect as an owner. The surprising/sad thing... I wasn't the only person dissatisfied with local service from my town taking my bike to that dealership ....
My best mate did the same thing, had a GS, upgraded to the Adventure and happy farkling it but suspension quickly needed upgrading [independently]. Was so put off by the numbers on the forum complaining of leaking seals / final drive issues, and the number who felt the need to take out an extended warranty, he took a hit on the BMW and went KTM [before the s10 came out]. One thing he did note though was the dealer experience was actually very good here in London.J.A.P said:Ya know the funny thing is I didn't get rid of my BMW because of what non-BMW owners said. I got rid of it because of all the things the BMW owners said. I thought of my bike as a ticking time bomb. Final drives and transmissions being the main culprits with my model. I came here where the biggest issue I read about was the headlights. Low and behold Yammy issued a recall on their own. I'm fairly handy and do most of my own maintenance but I had no desire to replace a final drive on the road. I realize that the majority of people on forums report only issues and don't get on to sing all of a products accolades but that's what makes this place so unique. It's almost all accolades, leading me to realize that there really are very few real issues.
Talking about service, I also haul my bike to a dealer 150 km aways when I have one just 3 and 4 kms from my house. ::025::Whorepedo said:Ha!! This is the main reason I moved on from my GS. I'm one of the "lucky" bmw owners to have 2 dealers close to me. Both of them are horrible at what they do. In the end I was hauling my bike 200 miles away to the only dealer that was giving me any kind of respect as an owner. The surprising/sad thing... I wasn't the only person dissatisfied with local service from my town taking my bike to that dealership.
That's an older bike - Gotta expect some wear and tear. My concern is another active thread that's on a new 14 GSWC where it looks like the timing chain is being ground off on one side and letting go. Apparently, theres a few out there.dcstrom said:I'm constantly amazed that the BMW marketing machine and owners tolerance of the problems - they keep moving bikes by the thousand.
This thread is currently running on ADVrider. When u-joints go they can litterally explode. This one on a bike with 99,000 miles on it. A lot of responses along the lines of "you're lucky, they usually go at around 50,000"