This Bike Really IS a Fatty

Goldwing

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Any ADV bike in this class, BMW, KTM, etc., will have the same heft problems.....

It seems to me that you may be looking for more Dual sport than ADV bike based on your suggestions of the 650 and 400 cc bikes mentions.
 

Big Blu

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Goldwing said:
Any ADV bike in this class, BMW, KTM, etc., will have the same heft problems.....

It seems to me that you may be looking for more Dual sport than ADV bike based on your suggestions of the 650 and 400 cc bikes mentions.

KTM= 512 lbs
GS= 525 lbs
ST= 584 lbs



No light weights here, but there's more to, COG and handling dynamics play a big role(Golswing riders know that). The big KMT almost handles like a light weight.

Paul
 

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Big Blu said:
KTM= 512 lbs
GS= 525 lbs
ST= 584 lbs



No light weights here, but there's more to, COG and handling dynamics play a big role(Goldwing riders know that). The big KMT almost handles like a light weight.

The KTM has the true build to do it, Suspension and travel.

Paul
 

shrekonwheels

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Irrelevent, the KTM may be better off road however considering it's weight it would still be a bear to get out of the ops situation.

If he wants to ride like that a 4 or 500 cc bike is best for him.
 

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Brazos609 said:
Here's an idea, how about just riding four feet to the right and not right through the middle of foot deep slop. Put it this way, if you were walking would you have walked along the same line, right into the slop, or four feet to the right where you were still on the path and not in the grass? I have a Tenere, a Polaris 550X2, a Jeep JK Sport, and a Jeep JK Rubicon Unlimited so an not a stranger to capable vehicles. My philosophy is to do what needs to be done and be able to get it done, not make it more difficult on purpose.
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I agree a little common sense goes a loooong way in the dirt !!
 

Mark R.

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I think a few of you later posters are missing the fact that I readily admitted on my introductory post that I ought to exercise a bit more caution in the future than I did when I stuck the bike in the mud.

"I have to exercise quite a bit more caution when out in the mountains, especially by myself. I might stick this pig into a hole I cannot remove it from."

I posted as a warning to others that the limit on this bike might be reached sooner than you think, and that once you reach that limit, it can be tough to handle the consequences because it is so heavy. Common sense should prevail, but even using common sense, one can go beyond the limits occasionally, even if accidentally.


Mark Richards
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BB1200Z

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How far did you think you were going to get with those tyres on that muddy track .... at least fit some TKC 80 style tyres, try it again and then come and tell us what happened ::) I am not saying you would not have gotten stuck but you would have been a hell of a lot better off.
 

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It is what it is S**t happens!!
We think why not try it?
Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't, but I have thought a 101 things that could happen riding alone in the mountains as well.
Down to the simplest thing like it won't start again after taking a break and its getting dark.
To you washed out and sprained or broke a body part, this stuff could be a life or death situation depending on conditions.
In this neck of the woods Norther New Mexico your not seeing anyone driving around some of these desert or mountain roads especially during the week days ever.
You would be lucky to see a Forestry ranger or someone poaching Elk or antelope.
I have put off buying an satellite Emergency beacon because I haven't been boon docking for a while but I should "Just in case".

We do take chances.
 

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About two years ago I saw a GSA with a small winch mounted to his rear rack. I laughed to myself as the rest of bike was outfitted in similar "adv" overkill...or so I thought at the time. Now having experienced riding my loaded 650+ lb Tenere off road in some mud and sand I've been thinking about carrying one of those portable winches myself. If you get really stuck riding solo in the boonies that would be the only thing to save your bacon.

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I can help here....it's simple, clearly you were going too slow for the conditions... next time pin it ::025::

BUTT seriously, Jesus couldn't cross that safely on a ST...but good on ya for tryin!
 

Mark R.

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BB1200Z said:
How far did you think you were going to get with those tyres on that muddy track .... at least fit some TKC 80 style tyres, try it again and then come and tell us what happened ::) I am not saying you would not have gotten stuck but you would have been a hell of a lot better off.
I had a TKC 80 up front, and am going to get one for the rear now.
 

Mark R.

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SilverBullet said:
About two years ago I saw a GSA with a small winch mounted to his rear rack. I laughed to myself as the rest of bike was outfitted in similar "adv" overkill...or so I thought at the time. Now having experienced riding my loaded 650+ lb Tenere off road in some mud and sand I've been thinking about carrying one of those portable winches myself. If you get really stuck riding solo in the boonies that would be the only thing to save your bacon.
I don't have a winch, but I do have a block and tackle kit made for motorcycle extraction. Not as fancy, but lighter.

Mark R.
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I have to almost laugh when I read these posts of people thinking there bike is a KTM 500 dual sport bike. These bikes are very capable off road but nowhere near the bike off road as a small dual sport. Just turn the tables. Load up your DR and take it to Alaska. Sure it will do it just like your Tenere does dirt. It will make it but wouldn't be near as comfortable. These big Dually's are purpose driven. Meant for hammering the Roads and Fire roads but not going to impress in the single track or places you have to throw your bike up and over or around or through things. If I wanna ride trails the KTM 500 is the go to. But if I want to go any distance at all the Tenere is the bike for me... Have fun and don't give up. It has a purpose you just need to find it. And as always multiple bikes are the only way to go..
 

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lacofdfireman said:
I have to almost laugh when I read these posts of people thinking there bike is a KTM 500 dual sport bike. These bikes are very capable off road but nowhere near the bike off road as a small dual sport. Just turn the tables. Load up your DR and take it to Alaska. Sure it will do it just like your Tenere does dirt. It will make it but wouldn't be near as comfortable. These big Dually's are purpose driven. Meant for hammering the Roads and Fire roads but not going to impress in the single track or places you have to throw your bike up and over or around or through things. If I wanna ride trails the KTM 500 is the go to. But if I want to go any distance at all the Tenere is the bike for me... Have fun and don't give up. It has a purpose you just need to find it. And as always multiple bikes are the only way to go..
This is exactly how I looked at the Tenere when I bought it. I had a few encounters with dirt roads on a 900+ bike while touring that I would rather not repeat. The Tenere will still allow me to do multiple 400+ mile days comfortably and is pretty stable on the slab; should I wind up where a county road on the GPS turns into a dirt path, I have the ground clearance, suspension and riding position to deal with it. Now I am looking forward to riding fire roads and the like also.
Jim
 
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