This bike is to slow

[EricV]

I just had 10k service on my bike, and I said to the mechanic that it runs a little odd, When I give it full throttle sometimes it sounds like it is a lag of some sort

That statement is lacking in information. In what gear, at what rpm?

10k kms service is an oil/filter change and minor visual inspections. What prompted you to take it to the mechanic for this?

@OldRider and hANNAbONE - ::025:: Fueling and timing may be different, but available power is not significantly changed. I would suggest you missed the point about situational. If you're at 2000 rpm in 6th and go full throttle, it's not going to be impressive. OTOH, if you're at 5k and do that, heck yes! The conditions of the OP are probably somewhere in between.

 

[klenoth]

I have to take the bike to service from the dealer to keep my Warranty conditions.

And when I'm talking about the "lag" its when I turn the throttle in neutral. It doesn't rev imminently, but instead it almost chokes out before it get up in rpm.

 

[pretbek]

I have to take the bike to service from the dealer to keep my Warranty conditions.

And when I'm talking about the "lag" its when I turn the throttle in neutral. It doesn't rev imminently, but instead it almost chokes out before it get up in rpm.

Maybe it knows about the speeding fines and it's stressed out and worried? Those amounts at those speeds choke me up a bit too.

 

[EricV]

I have to take the bike to service from the dealer to keep my Warranty conditions.

And when I'm talking about the "lag" its when I turn the throttle in neutral. It doesn't rev imminently, but instead it almost chokes out before it get up in rpm.

Find a different dealer. Yours isn't listening to you, and doesn't know what a motorcycle sounds like, looks like, or should behave. Throttle body sync, idle speed adjustment and adjusting the slack in the throttle cables all come to mind. Throttle by wire, but you have two cables between the throttle sleeve on the grip and the control on the TB. There is a spec amount of slack, but many find it excessive and that contributes to throttle abruptness and feel.

In neutral? So what does it do in gear? If this only happens in neutral... why would you care? Throttle blipping at the light is for newbies and poseurs. So you're describing a problem that never exists when you're actually riding the bike?

 

[klenoth]

Throttle blipping hahaha, no thats for harley owners

 

[Clevermonkey]

No bike will do everything: go fast, go slow, haul a ton of stuff, accelerate like a Lamborghini, be comfortable long distances, easy in the parking lot, comfortable at 120mph. It's all about what compromises work for you.for me the priorities were ; durable, hauling stuff, comfortable long distance, good on dirt roads and secondary highways. Given that acceleration wasn't even on my list I am pretty happy with the way she moves. Sounds like your priorities may be different.

There are certainly a lot of ways to make the bike faster. But it's never going to be a rocket ship. Before you modify the bike maybe take some time and list your priorities, and se is a modified ST will meet them. Better to sell the bike and take a hit now then modify the bike ($$) then take a hit selling it.

 

[528Hz]

This bike uses fly by wire. So when you blip, it may hit a flat spot. I believe that's one of the things that has to do with some of the stumbling on a stock bike on sudden take off, other then out of sync tbs. If you think this fly by wire set up is not optimal, try new kawi voyager or new indians. Unless you roll on gently, bike will hit a mega flat spot and you will hear all kinds of noise from the engine. So this one on Yamahas is best by far from what I seen in terms of electronic throttle controls.

Regarding downshifting or double downs, it all depends on what speed you are at. If you are doing 45-50 meters per second, going to the 3rd or 4th gear makes no sense cos you will just rev the shit out of it. It will pull in 6th just fine at that speed. So how much you need to downshift, depends on where you are on a speedo at the moment when you are ready to pass.

::001:: ::26:: ::001::

 

[Goldwing]

Very well put Clevermonkey!!

Thats why I also have a Goldwing...different bikes for different purposes.........

 

[klenoth]

Very well put Clevermonkey!!

Thats why I also have a Goldwing...different bikes for different purposes.........

Wish I could afford a cruise missle like ex. BMW K1600 GT as a number two bike.
But when the S10 cost $40k her in Norway, and the Bimmer cost $60k the priorities have to be made :-[

 

[BRAIN]

Most of us here are happy with the performance of our Teneres.






Maybe he just wants a faster adventure bike.

That's funny I don't care who you are

 

[switchback]

Really don't get all these responses. Have a S10 from the beginning (at least in the US) and it is without a doubt not a speed demon. What this bike excels in is the torque, not the horsepower. Tractable not terrorizing. Worry free, not highly tuned. Stock the power delivery is flat regardless of mode. Get rid of the emission constraints and it gets peppier but a fast bike it will never be. That said it will be in my garage as my reliable and well traveled companion for years to come.

 

[ThreePutt]

This ^^^^^

 

[coastie]

I don't understand it either. Why spend 14k+ then complain about the power? The KTM and BMW have so much more power, and even the multistrada can tour, do dirt roads, and rip the twisties with shoulder separating power. When I looked at the spec sheet and saw the HP and weight I knew exactly what I was getting. Additionally the reviews said it had no power.


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[bullittman]

I like how broad the power band is. I have only had my bike for a couple of weeks. The first thing I noticed was what an awesome highway bike it is. Set in Touring mode plenty of power to pass at higher speeds and a ride as smooth as glass. This bike has all the power one needs..... when you need it. It is also geared perfectly.

 

[Tremor38]

I just had 10k service on my bike, and I said to the mechanic that it runs a little odd, When I give it full throttle sometimes it sounds like it is a lag of some sort (timing problem) but he said the engine should go a little rough and that was normal.
Another thing is that I cant really feel any real difference when switching from touring to sport mode.

And for fines in Norway you don't pay a percentage of the annual income (except drunk driving)
And here are the important numbers :

Speed limit Violation Fine (NOK) Fine (Euro)
60 km/h and lower + 1-5 km/h 600 kr 72 €
+ 6-10 km/h 1 600 kr 194 €
+ 11-15 km/h 2 900 kr 352 €
+ 16-20 km/h 4 200 kr 509 €
+ 21-25 km/h 6 500 kr 788 €
License withdrawn + 26 km/h and more Heavy fine, max 10 000kr
JAIL** + 31 km/h and more* Jail: Minimum 18 days

70 km/h and higher + 1-5 km/h 600 kr 72 €
+ 6-10 km/h 1 600 kr 194 €
+ 11-15 km/h 2 600 kr 315 €
+ 16-20 km/h 3 600 kr 436 €
+ 21-25 km/h 4 900 kr 594 €
+ 26-30 km/h 6 500 kr 788 €
+ 31-35 km/h 7 800 kr 945 €
License withdrawn + 41 km/h and more Heavy fine, max 10 000kr
JAIL** + 51 km/h and more Jail: Minimum 18 days

Not sure of the speed you are traveling at when you say there is not enough acceleration, so I am guessing that you are already traveling at somewhere above 100kph (130-140?), when you notice this 'lack of power.' At slower speeds, I feel this bike jumps out of it's paint. The engine is has a lot of low-end torque, which naturally means it won't have incredible top-end pull. If you are looking for more acceleration for going uphill through winding roads, the ECU flash works wonders; however, if you want more top-end pull at higher speeds, I think you need a different bike.

 

[klenoth]

The power I'm missing is the punch to get past a semi trailer on twisty narrow roads before I get mashed by unsuspecting ongoing traffic.
The power on this bike is not really up there, it lacks about 25hp to really shine.
Its the same thing with this bike that I felt with my first bike (V-Star 650) I had to start planning more to get past traffic.
Not that I am an insane driver, but it felt more safe with the old SV1000S.
Dont get me wrong the bike is good, but I feel this lack of power is annoying. And if everybody that means different I can only say good for you
I wish I could try a Triumph 1200 Explorer or a Ducati 1200 Multistrada to see if they have the power I want.

 

[kgfire]

As the saying goes, better to be fast on a slow bike than slow on a fast bike. Kenny Roberts, Keith Mashburn and Don Emde all ride Teneres. I'm guessing they've slowed down a bunch in their advanced years. The Tenere is what it is, get a Duc or a KTM and nail it to your hearts content around those semis.

 

[Big Blu]

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Yes, it is. Or is the semi trucks longer or have I becomed a chicken.
Serious, is anybody of you feeling that the bike is a little-bit on the underside on the engine.
After laying a trip of 1500km it became really bothersome. I constantly don't want to overcome cars ect. cause I felt like there wasn't enough power to make it safely.
I have world crosser with arrow headers and acropovic slip on.
Is it worth doing something to get the bike faster or should I just look for something else?
Any thoughts?

I with ya on this! The ST is one of the heaviest the of the adventure tourers and has less hp them most others, even when re-flashed.
I to am disappointed in the fueling/ engine management of the twin lump, the worst of the bunch, Yamaha should be ashamed. I've not ridden a '14 so won't comment on the effectiveness of the motor changes Yamaha made to the motor, but the fact that did make changes is evidence they know the ST is not on par with the other contenders when it comes to performance.

Paul

 

[Checkswrecks]

The power I'm missing is the punch to get past a semi trailer on twisty narrow roads before I get mashed by unsuspecting ongoing traffic.
The power on this bike is not really up there, it lacks about 25hp to really shine.
Its the same thing with this bike that I felt with my first bike (V-Star 650) I had to start planning more to get past traffic.
Not that I am an insane driver, but it felt more safe with the old SV1000S.
Dont get me wrong the bike is good, but I feel this lack of power is annoying. And if everybody that means different I can only say good for you
I wish I could try a Triumph 1200 Explorer or a Ducati 1200 Multistrada to see if they have the power I want.

Having ridden in Norway a year ago on a BMW RT I can understand the narrow roads, lack of forward vision, and desire to be past whatever is in your way. No, this bike will never be a KTM 1190 and if you need that extra 50+ hp, take your loss on the Yamaha and buy the KTM.


Till then, the fastest way to increase horsepower is to go down 2 gears before a pass. I feel that the RT is gutless, but even it can move pretty good when you start with more rpm on the power curve.

There is a German thread somewhere about a guy who did some serious performance work and was getting close to 130 hp from his Tenere. Seems to me it took new cams and a lot of other expensive work. For you where the bike alone costs US$40,000, this may not be as bad as trading out of the Tenere.

 

[Clevermonkey]

If chhosing the wrong bike is the worst mistake the OP makes in his life, he should count himself fortunate. I chose the wrong first wife and can tell you that compared to that mistake, $14K is peanuts!

I don't understand it either. Why spend 14k+ then complain about the power? The KTM and BMW have so much more power, and even the multistrada can tour, do dirt roads, and rip the twisties with shoulder separating power. When I looked at the spec sheet and saw the HP and weight I knew exactly what I was getting. Additionally the reviews said it had no power.


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