XtreemLee
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Its really not that far between the bowling alley and the titty bar ::014::FDhog said:More problems might be reported with them because people with Harleys seem to rack up more mileage than other bikes.
Its really not that far between the bowling alley and the titty bar ::014::FDhog said:More problems might be reported with them because people with Harleys seem to rack up more mileage than other bikes.
I've ridden mine in the rain plenty of times. Takes lots of beer to clean it afterwards.Z750jay said:Yesterday I actually saw a HD being ridden in the rain.
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There must also be a human gene that wants to label others with different priorities and who choose to drive/ride something different than us as stupid, daft, and brainwashed.viewdvb said:Reliability seems, against all expectations, to have little effect on brand loyalty. Perhaps that's why some manufacturers never seem to improve. I am baffled by owners I meet when the conversations turn to their current bike. I met a 1200GS owner in my local tyre shop who told me he had owned two previous GS's which had both trashed their rear drives at around 50K and out of warranty but he bought a third!!!!! Ducatisti are no better. They will tell you all the things that are not right with their Ducati then move on to wax lyrical about the delights of Ducatis. The tales of woe from Harley owners are legendary but they remain firmly wedded to the brand. Brand loyalty is about marketing a dream and reality hardly matters. If there was a Nobel prize for marketing, Harley Davidson would win it every time. There has to be a human gene that blocks us learning from experience.
That is so true!FDhog said:Nothing wrong with an HD.
Just don't get one of the new liquid cooled models. Haven't worked the bugs out yet. 1st model year.
If you read every motorcycle forum, you'd never buy a bike.
::025:ricelessXtreemLee said:Its really not that far between the bowling alley and the titty bar ::014::
That's just a stupid statement Mark. You've obviously been brainwashed.. ::025::markjenn said:There must also be a human gene that wants to label others with different priorities and who choose to drive/ride something different than us as stupid, daft, and brainwashed.
- Mark
snakebitten said:I never questioned you REM.
You are zenlike in your ways.
I agree. Good data to have, to make better judgements with our money. I have read the CR stuff about cars off/on over the years. Seems like pretty good data, from somewhat unbiased folks. My personal experiences have usually echoed what CR reported.markjenn said:Suzuki and Triumph didn't make the survey because of insufficient data.
Many don't like CR, but I think they do a good job collecting and compiling reliability data and I welcome them to starting to collect this data on motorcycles so we can have some good/hard data to talk about for a change. I believe these results are probably a good representation of overall averages and mirror my own experience, at least with respect to Japanese brands and BMW.
What I don't care for is the sensationalist title of this article or the assumption it makes that the only thing that separates the best and worst is reliability. It's an important factor, but whether it is all-important is something for the individual to decide. If all that mattered is reliability, we'd all be driving Camrys and how much fun would that be?
- Mark