The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest

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Just ran my 7's in Tennessee. 1000 miles to get there, back roads, in the rain. Rode pavement, FS roads, and some trails while down there, then blasted back up I-75. The tire was great in all conditions. I'm heavy on the throttle, and roosting out of every corner in the dirt. Tons of tread left, great manners everywhere, and I had no idea I was getting to the edge of my tires until I touched the road with my foot....

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Mounted up some E07's recently and tried them out last weekend. They felt a little different at first but, this went away after 50 miles or so of riding. I think it may have been the "roundness" of new tires after the stock ones got square after 5,000 miles. REVIEW: The tires have surpassed my expectations on the pavement (twisty Hwy 36 northern CA). I didn't expect these to corner so well by the looks of the tread. I did some off-road and they were excellent, especially compared to the stockers. If I get anywhere near the mileage I did with the stockers, I'm sticking with the Mitas.
 

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Mounted another set E07's this morning.

The set I took off had 11k on them. The front was shot before the rear. The rear had a plug in it most of its life.





I noticed the center strip on the new tire seems to be narrower than on the old tire.
 

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I originally purchased the Dakar front and rear over a year ago and got over 8k miles on the rear, and it really didn't need changing but I wanted new rubber for a long distance trip. The front was also at 8k and could have gone much longer, but it had started to chop so for the long trip I decided to pull it for smooth new tire. I could only purchase the regular front as the Dakar version was not available. I have to say, this regular version has chopped and is close to worn down on the knobs that are not in the middle, but not on the side. I only have about 4k on them. Rear is still looking strong like it will last a very long time. With that said, I'm ordering Dakar for the front from now on. Granted I do ride a lot of twisties in the North Georgia mountains.
 

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rush2112 said:
I originally purchased the Dakar front and rear over a year ago and got over 8k miles on the rear, and it really didn't need changing but I wanted new rubber for a long distance trip. The front was also at 8k and could have gone much longer, but it had started to chop so for the long trip I decided to pull it for smooth new tire. I could only purchase the regular front as the Dakar version was not available. I have to say, this regular version has chopped and is close to worn down on the knobs that are not in the middle, but not on the side. I only have about 4k on them. Rear is still looking strong like it will last a very long time. With that said, I'm ordering Dakar for the front from now on. Granted I do ride a lot of twisties in the North Georgia mountains.
Good info.

I bought a set of E-07's a few days ago and I went with the Dakars which were $36.00 more over regular E-07's. I'm glad that I did. I'll be doing a 4,000+ mile trip next month and I'm anxious to see how they work for me.
 

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I only have about 500 miles on a set of Mitas Dakar e-07's and like them a lot.
... have ridden them on freeways, commuter streets, residential streets, rural roads, mountain roads, rough back country roads with weirs, river roads rough and smooth, and twisty smooth wide asphalt with constant elevation changes (should be a race track :) )
... the personality of this tire changes a lot with tire pressure.
... for now I am running 33F 36R. It handles a little slow for me but I am liking them.
... more pressure speed them up and less pressure slows them down.
... at 36F 41R they are scary fast with the emphasis on scary.
... does not like grooved concrete or grated bridges. I am guessing this will reduce as miles are added.
 

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tomatocity said:
I only have about 500 miles on a set of Mitas Dakar e-07's and like them a lot.
... have ridden them on freeways, commuter streets, residential streets, rural roads, mountain roads, rough back country roads with weirs, river roads rough and smooth, and twisty smooth wide asphalt with constant elevation changes (should be a race track :) )
... the personality of this tire changes a lot with tire pressure.
... for now I am running 33F 36R. It handles a little slow for me but I am liking them.
... more pressure speed them up and less pressure slows them down.
... at 36F 41R they are scary fast with the emphasis on scary.
... does not like grooved concrete or grated bridges. I am guessing this will reduce as miles are added.
Thanks for the info, especially about the tire pressure and grooved pavment/grates. I hope that the tires start to behave on grooves when the miles rack up.
When I start my trip I will put on quite a few miles before I anticipate hitting grooves, especially since I try really hard to stay off of interstates.
 

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Velvet said:
Thanks for the info, especially about the tire pressure and grooved pavment/grates. I hope that the tires start to behave on grooves when the miles rack up.
When I start my trip I will put on quite a few miles before I anticipate hitting grooves, especially since I try really hard to stay off of interstates.
I have about 3K miles on my E-07's, and they still like to grab the grooves and keep you awake. Also to me they don't do so well with the "tar snakes". But this also may be more due to I am running 41/36 in them on my long trips.

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HeliMark said:
I have about 3K miles on my E-07's, and they still like to grab the grooves and keep you awake. Also to me they don't do so well with the "tar snakes". But this also may be more due to I am running 41/36 in them on my long trips.

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The tar snakes are a well known issue
 

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No tire is good on tar snakes. My rear E07 has 4000kms on it and not sure it will do 8000kms. You guys must be easy on tires. I've tried them all just about and never gotten over 10,000kms on any rear tires. Must admit I do like the E07 though. Going to try a Front one soon. The current K60 is just too dam noisy on pavement.
 

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Do you have the Dakar model or the standard? The Dakars go further.
 

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I'm disappointed to hear about the E-07's tracking grooves. The freeways in Vegas are heavily grooved in some spots (I remember my FJR tires really tracked them too), and the K60's seem impervious in that regard.
 

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Can't honestly say I've noticed a difference between the E07 and any other tire in regards to groved pavement or metal bridges. I find all tires to be about the same in those situations.

I've finally worn out my first set of E07s. It would have happened last year, but the bike wearing the first set was taken away when the bike was totaled, so never got to finish out that set. Due to the need to get my bike inspected this month I'm forced to change tires even though I could probably squeeze another 500 miles out of them...maybe, since there is almost 1mm before hitting the wear bar.

Rear tire (Dakar): 7,350 miles
Front (non-Dakar): 6,000 miles

That's about as good as I could ever hope for a rear tire life. For some reason I never get as much mileage as most people on my back tire, so I'm very happy with the tire life, and everything else I've experienced with the E07 over the last 12K+ miles.

Front tire is a bit of a disappointment for tire life. But it was not a Dakar tire, so I'll try again.

On a related note, my wife is still on her first set of Dakar E07s. Both have more miles than my tires and look to have many, many more miles to go. She always beats me on tire longevity.
 

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D_D, you know it is not fair to post tire mileage and/or performance without posting the tire pressures.

Can't say anything about tire life but I have never had a tire that was so affected by tire pressure. I started at 36F 41R (scary) and made four tire pressure changes. Currently using 33F 36R and they react slower but more stable at these pressure. Going to try 34F 38R to see the difference. Should be riding more this week.

Want to confirm the tracking on grooved concrete. The grooves are straight lines. Somewhere in my travels I have seen wavy grooves. Don't remember where or when and I am sure it was while riding my KLR or DL1000.
 

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Wow, wavy lines...have not seen that one. No experience to report on that situation. It may be a personality thing. Personally I like messing around on tar snakes and seek them out, metal bridges amuse me. My wife dislikes both of them on the E07...and every other tire she's ever had.

As far as tire pressure I've not been super strict with that. As long as I'm between 38 and 41 on the rear, and usually 33 or 34 on the front then I'm happy. I don't ever intentionally run tire pressures lower than those, so I have no idea how it might act.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
As far as tire pressure I've not been super strict with that. As long as I'm between 38 and 41 on the rear, and usually 33 or 34 on the front then I'm happy. I don't ever intentionally run tire pressures lower than those, so I have no idea how it might act.
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Dirt_Dad said:
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Due to the need to get my bike inspected this month I'm forced to change tires even though I could probably squeeze another 500 miles out of them...maybe, since there is almost 1mm before hitting the wear bar.

Rear tire (Dakar): 7,350 miles
Front (non-Dakar): 6,000 miles

That's about as good as I could ever hope for a rear tire life. For some reason I never get as much mileage as most people on my back tire, so I'm very happy with the tire life, and everything else I've experienced with the E07 over the last 12K+ miles...
Wear bar? I consider that a tie bar and when you level that off you have about half life of the tire remaining. I would estimate you have another 5K miles left on it not 500. Of course you lose some off pavement traction but not very much IMO.

Tires I recently removed below, I'm not super hard or super easy on tires. I like to hit the throttle and slide some in the dirt and brake hard on pavement at times (front lever only). But also have plenty of long pavement touring miles in the mix.
Rear tire is 11,741 miles
front tire is 18,180 miles
neither are completely gone for me but I had an off road ride and wanted optimum traction. Went with E-09 Dakar's, I really like the rear but front is too squirmy for spirited pavement so I need to compromise next tire to an E-10 or other big block. I dislike the E-07 front for off road and I think it is the main cause for the rain groove and tar snake handling. I bought another E-07 for my spare rim so will be my quick changeout for long rides and tours.



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Wear bar? I consider that a tie bar and when you level that off you have about half life of the tire remaining. I would estimate you have another 5K miles left on it not 500. Of course you lose some off pavement traction but not very much IMO.
Spoken like a man who doesn't have to do an annual bike inspection to keep the bike street legal. I've failed those PITA inspections, and I do what I need to do to avoid going back for re-inspection.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
Spoken like a man who doesn't have to do an annual bike inspection to keep the bike street legal. I've failed those PITA inspections, and I do what I need to do to avoid going back for re-inspection.
Not true, annual safety inspections are required here. They do have a tread depth requirement but your tire would pass. Bottom of the tread to the top. That tie bar or "wear bar" as you called it is not bottom of the tread. But I sympathize if you've been hassled on that as you shouldnt have been. I would try another inspection station where hopefully they were more knowledgable.

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I stand corrected.

I've fail based on that tiny light in the corner of either side of the headlight. So small I never noticed it. Absurd to fail on a light that does absolutely nothing. I've never gone back to that inspection station. Another inspector warned me based on tread too close to the wear mark. Close enough to pass, but they are clearly looking at it.

If there wasn't an inspection due in the next week I would not have been in a big rush to change it. But I don't like going much past the wear bars. My wife once totaled a bike that was approaching the wear bars. Wet conditions and, unknown to us at the time, the road had a spring that flowed over it that allowed some invisible slippery stuff to coat the road. I can't say for certain if she had better tread that she would have been successful following me through that downhill decreasing radius, wet turn, but it's always been a question that nags at me. Ever since then I've had less of a problem tossing a tire when it's close enough. After all, I'm going to need it anyways, why wait.
 
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