I had a Russell on my 1200 GS and loved it. I did the flat seat mod on my stock Super Tenny saddle but it's still a butt-burner. I'm thinking of going with a Sargeant this time to save a few bucks. I'm still on the fence about it, Russells are great but spendy.
I used a local seat maker who could work with me directly and make adjustments as the seat was being built. Look around your area, ask automotive interior shops who they would recommend, go to bike nights and ask others. Having a seat made in Cali when your butt is in Florida may not be your best option.
I went a cheaper option, and I am glad I did. Seat Concepts do a foam/cover kit that you put over your original base. It eliminates the forward tilt of the stock seat, is broader at the rear, and is a lot more comfy for my boney arse.
When I bought my 2014 ES from a forum member here he had already installed a practically new seat concepts seat. I have since added a Bead Rider (14x14 seems to fit well) that I've used to keep the boys cool and add comfort to other bikes in the past. I've also added Rox risers and small highway pegs to Jaxon's bash plate and this combo allows me to move around and stand quite a bit while riding. I can run a stock tank dry without feeling uncomfortable.
One last thing I'm doing this weekend will be to perform the seat bushing mod to take the last bit of forward tilt out of the seat (even with seat concepts it seems there's a little there likely amplified by the slippery beads...)
I recommend Terry's Custom seats in Manchester TN. I was the first Tenere seat he did a few years ago and it is great. I had a Russell on my honda st1300 and this compares nicely for a lot less cost. I have done several 800 mile days back to to back, a few 1000 mile days and routine 500 milers with no butt issues. I live fairly local so just dropped off my seat the day before he needed it and picked it up two days later. If you have to ship it, get on his schedule and wait to ship your seat till you are notified - then it is not long till it is returned. Excellent people.
It does not interfere with the passenger seat or rider.
I had a Seat Concepts prior to the Terry's seat and there is no comparision.
Well a Last week I removed the shorter seat bumpers that were supposed to help level the seat and reinstalled the taller stock bumpers, rode it around locally for a few days and it didn’t seem hardly any different. Well yesterday I rode it 400 miles, the first 200 miles was fine but the last 200 miles kept getting more miserable the farther I went. I definitely want to get a better seat.
Well I ended up getting a Sargent. No options on the seat, just the standard black one. I have only had it out for less than half hour stints just commuting. My first long trip will be for the Tenere rally down in TN. That will be 4.5 hours saddle time.
My first impressions are (in no particular order):
1. The quality is good- not that I expected it to not be good. Well made.
2. The seat does move around a bit more than the stock. If I grasp the rear outside edges of the seat, it can be moved around more than I'd like. However, I have not noticed any problem while riding the bike (I have not done any spirited riding with the seat yet.) I suspect I may be able to adjust this movement by shimming up the rear plastic "L" that mates to the frame like what is necessary when you do the stock seat leveling mod. But I haven't messed with it yet.
3. It s much firmer than stock. I definitely notice the bumps alot more - they are more jarring. Certainly not a deal breaker, but something to adjust to. The 2.5 miles of gravel between my house and pavement definitely highlight this fact. But I also notice it just riding around on regular pavement.
4. Unlike the stock seat, the vinyl material along the top of the rear portion of the seat is not attached to the foam underneath. Since the Sargent is a more desirable bowl shape than the stock, the vinyl floats above the foam underlayer, much like a trampoline. It isn't something noticeable in normal usage. I but I do worry that the stretched vinyl could be more prone to damage or tears. If that were to happen the damage would be more catastrophic than if the vinyl was bonded to the foam. My bike has been known to take a dirt nap or two while riding on some overgrown two track.
5. The order shipped quickly. It probably helped that I didn't order anything custom so it didn't need to be built to order. I wasn't sure I'd get it before the Tenere Rally, but I already have it.
6. I haven't noticed any problem with the wider seat interfering with my being up on the pegs and moving around while riding for off-road terrain
I will post comments after the Tenere rally as I will be logging longer saddle times over several days. Ultimately that will be the key deciding factor on whether I like the seat or go back to stock.
Part of the comments on seats always needs to include weight of the rider. Heavier riders need more support. Lighter riders often find the oem seat ok, or certainly better than the heavier riders do. I'm #250ish these days and have been that or more for the last decade for the most part. I put 40k on my FJR before getting a Russell Day Long, then put another 120k on that seat w/o issues and always in comfort w/o a re-work.
I tried another maker for the Super Tenere, but ended up, after a couple of re-works, going back to the Russell Day Long. I do have the heavyweight suspension option and did before. I'm still happy with my RDL. I tried the Sunfast fabric this time and would just do vinyl next time. My first was vinyl and I had no issues. The Sunfast fabric is not as grippy as I had hoped and it stains, but is otherwise fine. I'm 5'11" with a 30" inseam and I don't have issues with my feet hitting the ground, but I'm ok with a toe down, no need or desire to flat foot for me.
I had a ride-in appt w/ Terry at his shop in Manchester, TN while on my way to Helen, GA about 18 months ago - big improvement over the OEM seat. However, I felt that the foam that Terry used was a little soft for me (~ 215 lbs, 6 ft, 32 inch inseam). Traded the Terry for a used Russell a few months ago and now am very comfortable. Longest ride so far on the Russell was about 680 miles in a day. Have had Russells on previous m/c's and always happy w/ the ride comfort that they provide.