Tenere linked brakes question???

[MojoToot]

As I am becoming more familiar with my S10 and am riding more dirt, I am starting to notice that some of my dirt riding techniques (that I last used about 45 years ago) are starting to re-appear.

So I was on dirt. Stopped. And I wanted the angle of the dangle to be about 30 degrees to the right before I started moving forward....

In my distant past (riding bikes with non-linked brakes), I would hold front brake, crank throttle-release clutch-spin rear wheel and rotate the rear of the bike to the desired position.

So, sort of without thinking about it, I tried doing this on the S10, with "limited" success.

Then it occurred to me that the linked brakes is prob'ly fighting the rear wheel spin.....

So here is my question, if you apply rear brake 1st, then front brake, then release rear whilst maintaining front brake...will this leave FRONT BRAKE ONLY engaged?

 

[Karson]

So here is my question, if you apply rear brake 1st, then front brake, then release rear whilst maintaining front brake...will this leave FRONT BRAKE ONLY engaged?

Yes. Applying the rear brake first is key here. The instant you did that before applying front brake, it was unlinked for that braking session. In other words, applying, then releasing the rear and keeping the front applied will ONLY keep the front engaged.

 

[MojoToot]

Excellent. Thanks for that confirmation.

 

[martin_nj]

so it would go

1. press and hold rear
2. squeeze and hold front
3. release rear
4. goose the throttle
5. let go of throttle first, then front brake?

 

[markjenn]

Another factor involved here may be the traction control system/setting.

- Mark

 

[MojoToot]

so it would go

1. press and hold rear
2. squeeze and hold front
3. release rear
4. goose the throttle
5. let go of throttle first, then front brake?

This maneuver is a leg(s) down spin/angle shift without any forward momentum, so basically-the front brake should be on until you're done with the angle shift.

Of course then--it just depends--come to a complete stop 8) or release front brake and start off with rear spinning > or something in-between :lamp:

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If you have long enough legs, you can actually stand on ground, 2-footed and "re-position" the bike under you.

I'm short-legged so I would have to use a pivot foot on which-ever side was needed....

So (due to the linked brake system) the steps would vary on each side:

*While standing on left pivot foot (clutch in, bike in 1st), apply rear brake followed by front brake then followed by release of rear brake...
Then throttle up and release clutch to begin rear wheel spin.

*For a shift using a right pivot foot you would begin the same way, standing on your left foot...

"While standing on left pivot foot (clutch in, bike in 1st), apply rear brake followed by front brake then followed by release of rear brake"...
At this point, you would rock the bike over so that you were on your right pivot foot...then, as before...
"Then throttle up and release clutch to begin rear wheel spin."

 

[MojoToot]

Another factor involved here may be the traction control system/setting.

- Mark

Good point!

 

[squarebore]

That raises a good question about burnouts. My rear tyre is shot and is getting changed this week. To celebrate I did a minor burnout in my shed. TCS to off, hold front brake, twist throttle and release clutch. No problems and a good burnout. Shouldn't the back brake have held the wheel?

 

[krussell]

The linked brakes don't activate if you haven't moved since starting the bike.

If you stop, then release the front brake, then reapply, the linked brakes don't activate either.

I suspect that's how squarebore's burnout worked.

 

[MojoToot]

The linked brakes don't activate if you haven't moved since starting the bike.

If you stop, then release the front brake, then reapply, the linked brakes don't activate either.

I suspect that's how squarebore's burnout worked.

Well if that be the case, it makes for less messin' 'round...only thing would be traction control
(which, as I understand it, won't prevent the rear from spinning but will shut down the spin if it occurs) :question:

 

[squarebore]

The linked brakes don't activate if you haven't moved since starting the bike.

If you stop, then release the front brake, then reapply, the linked brakes don't activate either.

I suspect that's how squarebore's burnout worked.

Good answer. No reason not to do more burnouts now.