Suspension upgrade report.

Mikeybikey57

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After much brain picking, (thanks Rasher) deliberation and endless analysis of the cost/benefit equation, I finally decided to upgrade my suspension. After deciding to have the shock replaced with a Wilbers unit and have the front forks re-sprung and re-valved, I booked an afternoon with the good folk at MCT suspension in Stowmarket.

The big day arrived last week and I rode off into the sunrise on the Monday morning. I was warmly welcomed by Darren and Tom, who after settling me in with a decent brew and some chocolate hobnobs, got straight to work on my bike. I was surprised when Matt stated that he felt that I didn't actually need to have the forks re-valved, as their updated re-spring and heavier fork oil would give a very good result. He also added that if I didn't think that to be the case after test riding, then I was probably riding the wrong bike.

Once the work was completed, Darren took my bike out for a quick test ride, made a few tweaks and then sent me off down a local road, to "test it out for ten miles or so." For the first five miles, I just couldn't stop myself giggling like an complete idiot. For the next five miles, I decided to turn the wick up a little and the giggles turned into cries of "holy shit." The transformation was that profound.

The initial set up had been brilliant on smooth and fast ‘A’ roads but proved to be a little firmer than I’d like, when riding everywhere else. So since coming home, I've been ‘fine tuning’ the suspension to get it just right. After getting to the “sweet spot”, the way the bike now rides is hugely different to when it was on the stock suspension.
Where the bike used to bounce and move around over bumps and ridges, it now stays firmly planted, with the suspension doing all the moving. Where the front end used to squirm under heavy braking and feel rather vague in bends, it now tracks straight and true.

To give it a proper test, I also rode it over one of the most twisty and badly surfaced road I know (over the top of Strines Moor, if you're local). Riding this sorry excuse for a paved road previously had the rear shock bogging down and kicking me out of the saddle at the slightest excuse, with the traction control light flashing like a strobe. The front end would also bounce around like a gibbon on a pogo stick too. I took the same road the other morning and it was still a lairy enough ride but it was good fun, rather than a bloody chore. My arse stayed in the saddle, the front wheel stayed connected to the road and I saw nary a twinkle from the traction control light.

In essence, the changes have been very positive indeed. The bike now feels much tauter, yet more compliant. It also feels composed, stable and planted on the road, yet it feels lithe and turns more quickly.

With regard to whether this sort of thing is actually worth doing, I suppose it’s all down to personal preferences. It certainly wasn’t a low cost modification but what’s the point of having money, if it’s main purpose is to leave you a very wealthy corpse. I could have put up with the stock set up, were I minded to but the inadequacies of stock set up were becoming intrusive and uncomfortable. So for me at least (and several others on this forum), it has been a very worthwhile upgrade and has made a great bike so much better. ::001::
 

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Same with me. I was at MCT two weeks ago. Riding my 2011 solo I was OK with the standard setup, but two up and luggage it was at it's limit. I now have a Wilbers fitted and forks sorted out.
 

Tony Down Under

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Glad to hear your happy with the suspension set- up. Just wondering how much you weigh and what spring rates front and rear you decided to go with?
 

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I would like to know weight set up as well. I just put in an order for a TFX shock and will be looking to respring the front as well. Hoping springs and oil are all I need as the shock drained my bank account....
 

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Glad you like it ::008::

My setup is probably very similar, the only difference is I dropped the forks about 8mm through the yokes which gives a sharper feel to the steering - but it is still mega-stable, not sure if this would have an adverse affect off-road, but on the road is well worth it, and with the re-work you will have a lot more ground clearance so can get away with this mod.

Yet to be moaned at for recommending the MCT guys, I have had my ZZR1400 / GS / S10 sorted by them, and the Mrs has had her TDM900 done - all have been massively improved for a modest cost, not low cost, but considering the before /after affect I have always found it money well spent.
 

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An interesting read, I'm pleased it worked out for you. I had a Wilbers shock on my former Guzzi Stelvio and it transformed the bike.
 

Mikeybikey57

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Tony Down Under said:
Glad to hear your happy with the suspension set- up. Just wondering how much you weigh and what spring rates front and rear you decided to go with?
I weigh in at around 116 Kilos fully kitted up and Wilbers sent the shock to MCT with a 165-180 spring fitted. MCT have their own springs (I recall being told mine were 85's) and fine tune them with spacers of differing lengths, dependent on the individual bike and riding styles.
 

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Getting the suspension right is one of the most important things you can do on your bike and unfortunately, due to price and ignorance, one of the most neglected. Once you experience a proper set up on your bike you understand what I mean. Too many riders accept the stock set up as a finite issue and compensate for the shortcomings of the ride. I'm glad you discovered the "sweet spot" of your bike and can look forward to more happy miles. By the way, raising the forks does help turn in both on and of road. You might want to play with that. Having a 600 lbs beast turn in quicker is nothing to fear.
 

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Rasher said:
Glad you like it ::008::



Yet to be moaned at for recommending the MCT guys, I have had my ZZR1400 / GS / S10 sorted by them, and the Mrs has had her TDM900 done - all have been massively improved for a modest cost, not low cost, but considering the before /after affect I have always found it money well spent.
I have a tendency to mild cynicism with regards to all motorcycle related tradespeople, until they go out of their way to prove me wrong. I went with MCT on both your recommendation and with the impressions that I got from Tom, when talking to him on the phone. I wound up being even more impressed when Darren told me that I didn't need to spend the extra money on having the forks re-valved too. Being a suspension mod newbie, i'd have coughed up the extra money and still ridden away with an ear-to-ear grin and been none the wiser. Honesty and trustworthiness = more happy customers. ::008::
 
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