SuperTech 6607...where?????

[Coonass in Bama]

So i just passed 2500 miles Aand i went to change my oil...Rotella T 15w40....and a new Purolator......ok thats not happening with SW Motch skid plate...Went to walmart for SuperTech and they dont sell them anymore!! Neither does Kmart !!!....Can someone fill me in?? Send me a link?? I had to get a 15 dollar Yamaha filter and that just plain ole suuuux.......The Rotella is freakin wonderful in the Tenere !! Or maybe any filter that will fit with SW Motech skid plate ??

 

[Karson]

Oil Filters:
- Yamaha - 5GH-13440-20 (2.5") - THIS IS THE STOCK SUPER TENERE FILTER
- Yamaha - 3FV-13440-00 (3.25") 
- Yamaha - 3FV-13440-10 (3.25") (both of these are earlier, slightly longer versions)

Other Oil Filter Options 
- Honda - 15410-MFJ-D01 
- Honda - 15410-MCJ-000 
- Honda - 15410-MCJ-003 
- Honda - 15410-MM9-013 
- Kawasaki - 16097-0002 (2.5") 
- Kawasaki - 16097-0004 (3.25") 
- Purolator Pure One - PL14610 (3.25" long) 
- Purolator Pure One - PL14612 (2.5" long) 
- Mobil 1 - M1-110 (3.25") 
- Mobil 1 - M1-108 (2.5") 
- Bosch - 3323 (3.25") 
- Bosch - 3300 (2.5") 
- WalMart SuperTech - ST7317 (3.25") 
- WalMart SuperTech - ST6607 (2.5") 
- AC Delco - PF1237 (2.5") 
- AC Delco - PF2135 (3.25") 
- Triumph Motorcycles - T1210444 (2.5") 
- K&N - KN-204 
- Amsoil - SMF103 
- Baldwin - B1400 (short length) 
- Baldwin - B1402 (medium length) 
- Baldwin - B1431 (long length)

Any of the 2.5" ones listed here should be fair game

Shout out to Dallara from this thread for putting in the legwork for everyone http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1326.0

 

[211john]

Supertech oil filters are all gone here in Reno too. I asked at the store but they didn't know why. The price on the Purolators which replaced them is good though.

 

[imrubicon]

One way to make this easier is to follow the Manual and change oil every 6K miles Duh!
Why waste it if you all have that much money please send some to those that need it LOL ::018::


Also the short Purolator Pure One - PL14612 is $5.99 on Amazon and they qualify for free shipping if you order 5 of them ?
Way cheaper than $15 a piece ,its better to have a extra one around then be out and you can always change your oil as often as you want ::009:: As its your money you are wasting and telling you about the damage it does to the planet wont help if you have the idea ingrained into your Thick heads about changing your oil every 3K to start with

 

[stevepsd]

One way to make this easier is to follow the Manual and change oil every 6K miles Duh!
Why waste it if you all have that much money please send some to those that need it LOL ::018::


Also the short Purolator Pure One - PL14612 is $5.99 on Amazon and they qualify for free shipping if you order 5 of them ?
Way cheaper than $15 a piece ,its better to have a extra one around then be out and you can always change your oil as often as you want ::009:: As its your money you are wasting and telling you about the damage it does to the planet wont help if you have the idea ingrained into your Thick heads about changing your oil every 3K to start with

The owners manual recommends to change the oil every 4,000 miles, after the initial 600 mile oil change. The oil filter is changes at the initial 600 mile service and then every other oil change (8,000 miles).

Where did you see 6,000 mile oil change service intervals, unless Yamaha changed it recently? Just a note that my wife received a notice from MINI USA that the oil change interval has been reduced from 16,000 miles to 10,000 miles. Seems they were having a rash of oil related engine failures due to excessively long drain intervals.

The only safe way to extend your oil change interval is to do periodic oil analysis.

And lose the attitude.

 

[stevepsd]

Supertech oil filters are all gone here in Reno too. I asked at the store but they didn't know why. The price on the Purolators which replaced them is good though.

I noticed last time going thru the so-called 'automotive' section (they have got rid of at least 50% of what they used to carry) in our local Wal-Mart that the SuperTech filters are gone.

 

[bvail]

Regarding the ST filters, here's something that might be of interest in the Honda Ridgeline Owner's forum: http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=630062#post630062

 

[justbob]

The Purolator PL14612 is less than 4 bucks at Walmart, I bought one yesterday.
They are white, I spray painted it black.

 

[imrubicon]

The owners manual recommends to change the oil every 4,000 miles, after the initial 600 mile oil change. The oil filter is changes at the initial 600 mile service and then every other oil change (8,000 miles).

Where did you see 6,000 mile oil change service intervals, unless Yamaha changed it recently? Just a note that my wife received a notice from MINI USA that the oil change interval has been reduced from 16,000 miles to 10,000 miles. Seems they were having a rash of oil related engine failures due to excessively long drain intervals.

The only safe way to extend your oil change interval is to do periodic oil analysis.

And lose the attitude.

I will say Im sorry for the altitude was intended for tongue in cheek bad humor and after rereading it was not relaying my message that I wanted to get across about oil changes, as for how long apart I got that information from an PDF copy
and maybe I have the wrong manual or its from Europe as a owners manual was a owners manual I thought for basic's . and I got it from the sales man and it was a 2010 one so they may have changed it , I will look in my hard copy later

 

[Dallara]

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No doubt about it... Oil filters can be expensive, as can good quality synthetic oil, especially if you change oil and filters every 3,000 miles like I do.

But on the other hand, I often wonder just a bit about folks who buy a $12- to $14-K motorcycle and then want to save $2, $5, or even $10 per oil change and not really know if the filter involved is the best for the application. If you rode the bike 100,000 miles, changed the oil and filter every 3,000 miles, and saved that $10 more per filter you're only talking about approx. $330 bucks over how long? I've got 12,600 miles on my Super Tenere right now, and it's been less than 9 months since I got it. Given my current riding miles I'll end up with about 18,000 miles on my bike in a year. That means to go 100,000 miles will take me about 5.5 years. So if I save that $10 per filter buying cheaper filters, and that savings works out to $330 per 100,000, I will save a whopping $60 per year...

I can save way more than that by simply shopping a bit harder for my preferred synthetic oil and buying it in larger containers.

You can buy 10 of the factory Yamaha OEM oil filters quite easily for $8.78 each. Just go here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-CASE-OF-10-YAMAHA-OIL-FILTERS-5GH-13440-20-NEW-/290605774544

I ordered this same case of Yamaha filter from these same folks back before I ever got the bike. Back then the price with shipping was about $60-$65 for the case, or about $6.50 or less per filter... And I *KNOW* that Yamaha can't give me any flak if the engine explodes and they somehow want to say it was oil filter related. After all, it's their filter. Yes, the price has gone up to $74 a case plus $13.81 shipping, but I have found that this price fluctuates slightly from time to time. Still, even at $8.78 per filter it's only costing you about $4 bucks more per filter than the automotive brands.

Personally, it's just not worth it to me on a bike I paid over $12,500, less farkles, for...

And on another note, you can readily buy the Yamaha filters online for less than $9 bucks a piece if you hunt around a bit. And here's a hint for you if you want to buy OEM filters locally... Try Yamaha outboard and boat dealers. The marine engines use the same filter, but those dealers tend to sell a larger volume of filters than motorcycle dealers so they will usually offer them for less.

My Yamaha motorcycle dealer will sell me the OEM filters for about $9 to $10 bucks, so if I need one from them I really won't pay much more, and for me I'd rather support my local motorcycle dealer if it only cost a buck or two more. I changed my oil some pretty frequent intervals at first... Ran Yamaha mineral oil for the first 4,000 miles, and changed the oil at something like 200, 600, 1,000, then at 4,000... and now about every 3,000 miles or so since, and now with synthetic (Mobil 1 20W-50 m/c) oil. I had some of the longer Yamaha filter left over from my FJR1300, so I used those at first, and since going through those I have use 3 of the OEM filters out of that case off e-Bay, so I've got 7 left... Let's see... That's about another 21,000 miles or so. That means, at my current mileage rate, I'm good for more than another year or more - at least about 14 months from now, and most likely more.

Understand, I'm for saving money as much as the next guy, and I'm not faulting folks for shopping around. If I wasn't going to use a Yamaha OEM filter my first alternate choice would be either a Kawasaki or Honda filter, as both are also made by Yamaha's OEM supplier - Denso. The Kawasaki is usually cheaper, BTW. If I had to use an automotive filter it would be a Mobil 1 or Purolator, and after that an AC Delco. If I get that far down my *preferred* list then I'm in trouble, and I'd stick on whatever I could find, then change it when I got home to something I've had experience with.

But then that's just me... YMMV.

Dallara



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[bvail]

"But then that's just me... YMMV.

Dallara"

IMHO, it doesn't matter that much what you use, as long as you use something. I really doubt if you will be seeing any advantage to using an OEM filter and high end oil, but I figure if it makes you feel better about yourself and your motorcycle, by all means, do it.

I'll just keep plugging along with whatever I get my hands on (money is really not the object) and I might even change the crush washer (if it leaks) ::013::

But then, that's just me. I'll report back to the group if and when I ever blow up an engine...been pretty lucky so far I guess.

p.s. ::002::

 

[hANNAbONE]

...I use PureOne 14610 & 14612 in everything I own.

The Triumph (*sold days ago)

The Supa10 '12

The Subaru XT Outback '06

The Subaru Impreza '12

 

[bvail]

Why bother with expensive, exotic filters? Just go with the Frantz TP filter 8) http://www.frantzoil.com/home.html

 

[imrubicon]

Complete kit $200 plus ::007:: ???

 

[Dallara]

IMHO, it doesn't matter that much what you use, as long as you use something. I really doubt if you will be seeing any advantage to using an OEM filter and high end oil, but I figure if it makes you feel better about yourself and your motorcycle, by all means, do it.

I'll just keep plugging along with whatever I get my hands on (money is really not the object) and I might even change the crush washer (if it leaks) ::013::

But then, that's just me. I'll report back to the group if and when I ever blow up an engine...been pretty lucky so far I guess.

p.s. ::002::

Well, then these oils should be right up your alley, bvail....

http://nextgen.valvoline.com/

http://www.safety-kleen.com/products/OilProducts/Pages/EcoPower.aspx

http://www.universallubes.com/

With one of those, and one of those TP oil filters, you ought'a be all fixed up... And maybe you can use an even *BIGGER* font size to "feel better about yourself"! ::025::

Dallara



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[Big Blu]

Don't think I've heard of any oil or filter related engin failures in many years.
Higher price does not always mean a better product. The Rotella oil has a JASCO rating, that's good enough for me.

Regards, Paul

 

[Dallara]

Don't think I've heard of any oil or filter related engin failures in many years.
Higher price does not always mean a better product. The Rotella oil has a JASCO rating, that's good enough for me.

Regards, Paul

Understand, I love Rotella oil. It's all I used in my Hypermotard, and all I currently use in my XR1200. I wasn't the one who steered the conversation toward oils.

My main point was about the oil filters, especially during the warranty, and even after under some certain situations. When I was a dealer I saw a few situations where the oil filters used were called in question on some lubrication-related warranty claims, and more than one where a motorcycle manufacturer stated that the damage would not be covered because the customer used a "car filter". Yes, folks, these days we have the Magnuson-Moss act, and *IN THEORY* the manufacturer is supposed to prove that whatever non-OEM parts on the machine are what caused the failure, but the question becomes do you want to get an attorney, etc. and go through the hassle of trying to force the issue, wasting lots of time and maybe money?

Without a doubt, *ANY* sort of engine failure on current Japanese motorcycles is a rare thing, much less a lubrication-related one. But I have seen an OEM try to even say that a customer installed an oil filter improperly, and as such the engine grenaded. Did the customer actually install it incorrectly? IMHO, no, but we were trying to get the manufacturer to foot the bill. Fortunately the customer's case was better because he used an OEM filter. Had he been using, as the motorcycle manufacturers like to call it, a "car filter" then things would have even been more tense.

Certainly, I'm not even remotely trying to tell anyone what filter to use... I was only wondering why buy a rather expensive motorcycle and then try to save what amounts to pocket change when purchasing oil filters, particularly during the warranty period. There are a lot of great filters out there, but the OEM filters are the ones surely *NOT* to raise an eyebrow with the factory service rep if it comes down to a warranty repair case.

And they're actually pretty cheap if you shop around...

That's all. ;D

Dallara


p.s. I've put together a pretty good list of oil filters right here: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1326.0 That list also has just a few other items that might be of some use to other owners...




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[ainsworth]

You can try to find a K&N Filter
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=KN-204
To know, if you see the "cross reference" is the same for many vehicles http://www.knfilters.com/search/kn_cross_ref.aspx?part=KN-204
May be if you ask a seller about Yamaha ST filter, they don´t know what is the correct, but may be they know one for a HOnda CBR 600 for example.

 

[bvail]

Well, then these oils should be right up your alley, bvail....

http://nextgen.valvoline.com/

http://www.safety-kleen.com/products/OilProducts/Pages/EcoPower.aspx

http://www.universallubes.com/

With one of those, and one of those TP oil filters, you ought'a be all fixed up... And maybe you can use an even *BIGGER* font size to "feel better about yourself"! ::025::

Dallara



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Just kidding about the T.P. oil filter, but I had heard that long ago there was such a thing and Googled the subject and much to my surprise, there is a company who still sells such a product, I thought I would post it he as a joke, but I saw that some folks took it seriously.

As far as you quip about recycled slop oil, Safety Kleen was actually one of my vendors. As a nasty by-product of my asphalt refinery here in Denver we ended up with fume blow down oil while refining vacuum bottoms which our company would purchase worldwide from various refiners. I would sell the oil (or rather Safety Kleen would take it off my hands) and it would go into the recycle stream with such other fine petroleum products as crankcase oil. It would then be transported to the old Whitco refinery in Gary IN, where this waste product from all over the country would be introduced into a crude stream and be refined into usable oil. I didn't realize that they actually produced lube oils, so part of the finished product from the cat cracker must be lube stock which is further processed using a destructive process involving propane in very high temperatures. So although Safety Kleen and Valvoline sell a lube oil I wouldn't consider putting it in any of my motors, including lawnmowers It might be perfectly ok for high speed screw air compressors though. I once put new oil in a Gardner Denver compresser and used the new at the time synthetic oil. Dried out the seals and crunched the blower. Thirty thousand bucks down the drain. Oh and BTW this oil was recommended by the 'dealer'. Back to the drawing board and plain old 30 weight Rotella (it ain't just for Diesels ya know).

As far as my font usage, not for me feeling bigger or better. I just thought it might be easier to read for some of us more seasoned citizens, but since it seems to annoy you, I will use the default font face and font size. See how easy I am?

Over on the FJRForum I think this would be classified as one of those NERPT (?) subjects. Just glad you could share your vast store of knowledge with us NUBs

 

[Coonass in Bama]

Well i appreciate all the input....but....just for your records....the Purolator 16412 is 3 inches....not the 2.5 they claim...therefore it will NOT fit with the SW Motech skid plate....so ive had to go with theOEM filter from the dealer....no big deal really....but i sure would like to find some 2.5 inch filters...and get them in bulk....something not OEM...What about those Volara filters?? anyone use them yet??