Street vs off-road

[Davidr8]

I'm considering an ST as a replacement for my '06 Triumph Tiger which is decidedly road oriented and I never take it off-road except perhaps a gravel road to a parking lot.

Is the ST more suited to someone who wants a more off-road oriented bike than road oriented?

The ST has similar specs to my Tiger but if it's oriented toward off-road it may not be a great choice.
For what it's worth, there are none around me to test ride. :-(


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[Checkswrecks]

I'm sure the ex-Girlie owners will be around shortly. The Tenere is like the Chevy Tahoe, in that it's a great street bike which can be farkled to go heavily off-road. On the other hand, we have a number of forum members with more than 100,000 miles, members who have never installed crash bars and skid plates, and members who just run road tires. I have a trailer hitch on mine to tow a camping trailer and prefer the upright seating to the two FJRs I had when it comes to long distance. Four Teneres were in this years' Iron Butt Rally.

Throw on some knobby tires, a skid plate, and crash bars and you can take it as far offroad you want.

fwiw - This is also a great 2-up machine.

 

[DamMechanic]

I have a KTM 640 along with my Tenere. If I'm just going to ride logging roads or dry two track I alway take the Tenere. It's a great dirt roads bike and remote camp site finder. I have dents in my skid plate

 

[Davidr8]

I'm sure the ex-Girlie owners will be around shortly. The Tenere is like the Chevy Tahoe, in that it's a great street bike which can be farkled to go heavily off-road. On the other hand, we have a number of forum members with more than 100,000 miles, members who have never installed crash bars and skid plates, and members who just run road tires. I have a trailer hitch on mine to tow a camping trailer and prefer the upright seating to the two FJRs I had when it comes to long distance. Four Teneres were in this years' Iron Butt Rally.

Throw on some knobby tires, a skid plate, and crash bars and you can take it as far offroad you want.

fwiw - This is also a great 2-up machine.

Thanks for your reply.
You read my mind as I'm also wondering about the ST as a two-up mount.
The Tiger is great solo but it's a bit cramped for two.
I need to look at the torque specs to get a sense of how it might differ power-wise.


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[Checkswrecks]

You really need to try one. It's the only way to know if it's right or not, even if you need to go into Vancouver or down to Seattle. Think of it as due diligence on an investment.

 

[Davidr8]

You really need to try one. It's the only way to know if it's right or not, even if you need to go into Vancouver or down to Seattle. Think of it as due diligence on an investment.

Absolutely.
I'm intrigued by the bike. It was offered as a suggestion by a fellow on FJR.com


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[2daMax]

When I was looking for one to sit on, it took me months to find one and I was lucky as the local dealer bought in a used one. I just wanted to have a feel of how the sitting is and how heavy is heavy. Turns out, heavy is not a problem for me as it is bottom heavy. I never test rode one, but when I finally got mine, the 1200 was easy on the slow speed than the 650.

Coming from riding a Versys, the off road capability of the S10 is night and day compared to the street oriented bike. I don't ride crazy off roads but on gravel roads, it is so stable, hardly feeling out of control. I am not an off road rider at all but this bikes make it easy. The versys is too bumpy and that throws off the confidence.

 

[Sierra1]

Absolutely.
I'm intrigued by the bike. It was offered as a suggestion by a fellow on FJR.com

Good power, shaft drive, and ELECTRONIC cruise control. There are many here that have moved from an FJR to the Tenere, or still have an FJR in addition to the Tenere.

 

[greg the pole]

Its fine off road, with the right tires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f21-Rg4nZmQ

we did some hairy quad trails that day, and rode a gravel road that was taken over by a river. Plenty of get up and go.

 

[Davidr8]

I'm not really looking for an off road bike though I suppose if I had the potential I might try.
Haven't ridden off road mind you so that could be a fun adventure.


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[Ape]

I am coming off an fz1 to the s10. I can tell you that as a commuter bike this thing is awesome. Back and forth to work a daily rider in and around town it feels light and very maneuverable. I have scraped the toes on my boots in the corners in town with the stock tires on it. I just installed a set of 50/50 shinko tires tonight and went for a ride to try them out. A little Hwy ride to a local gravel road, a 30 km loop on the gravel and then back onto the Hwy. 160 on the Hwy and about 60-70 on the gravel loop and this thing just eats road no matter what the surface is. I live out of city limits so my rides,to work are 60 km round trips every day. If all you every did was ride black top on this thing you would not be making a bad choice. Cruise control heated grips and a very nimble and comfortable ride this thing is made for eating miles upon miles of road. Even with the stock tires gravel roads are no problem. I don't think that buying an s10 is a bad choice no matter your riding style.

 

[AVGeek]

I'm not really looking for an off road bike though I suppose if I had the potential I might try.
Haven't ridden off road mind you so that could be a fun adventure.


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When I've described the bike, it is an "all-roads" bike, or one designed to go around the world. The other thing to keep in mind is the ergonomics of the bike. Having had 2 FJRs prior to the ST, the ST is far more comfortable for me for long distance stretches. Plus, riding an FJR after the ST makes the FJR feel small in comparison!

 

[markjenn]

It depends on a lot of factors, particularly one's ability to handle a bigger bike, but I wouldn't judge the S10 as a decidedly better off-road bike than a 06 Tiger. if your objective is to make a significant upgrade in this regard but stay in the liter-bike class, then you should be looking at a KTM or Africa Twin. Something with less weight and the 21" front wheel.

If you have little or no off-road experience, these big adventure bikes make poor platforms to dip your toe into off-roading in the same way that a Gold Wing is a poor platform to start riding on-road. Last ride I took with a off-road novice on a new GS-Adv resulted in a broken ankle and $6K in damage to the bike on the first significant hill on an easy fireroad.

- Mark

 

[EricV]

Maybe it's me, but I'm reading the OP as that he rides a Tiger mostly on road and will be riding the Super Ten mostly on road, but is concerned that perhaps the Super Ten is more off road oriented, which might make it not as good a choice for him. Everyone keeps saying how it will do off pavement. That doesn't appear to be the question being asked.

I have a '15 now. I put over 100k on a '12 before this one. I rode the IBR in '13 to a mid pack finish. I ride off pavement, but it's mostly two track to fire roads and not much knarly stuff. I'm a wheenie that doesn't go looking for excuses to drift the rear out or nasty sand to play in.

The Super Ten has 19"F/17"R wheels, making it more stable on pavement than 21"/18" combos, which is what you see on more off road oriented bikes like the KTM 1190R and Honda Africa Twin, (both of which will rock on road too).

The seating position is sort of "sit up and beg" rather than "sport-touring slouch", which makes it easy to ride distance on and more comfortable for two-up since the knee to hip ratio is more relaxed than the typical sport-touring bike.

Tires can make a big difference in perceived feel of a bike. Toss some Mitas E07 Dakars on the Super Ten and it will chug along anywhere on or off pavement until you get to loose sand, mud or something requiring the tires to really dig to get traction. On the other hand, toss on some Pirelli Angle GT tires and you can flog it in the twisties and be a hooligan, still seeing 10k out of a rear tire. Choose tires that meet your needs and you'll be a happy rider.

 

[Sierra1]

I'm not really looking for an off road bike though I suppose if I had the potential I might try.
Haven't ridden off road mind you so that could be a fun adventure.

Then the Tenere will do you fine. Superb on road, and quite capable to go off road; skill level deciding how far off road. ::001::

 

[markjenn]

The original query was worded oddly and I mis-interpreted it. In re-reading, it sounds like your worry is that the S10 road mission may be compromised by being too oriented towards off-road. You needn't worry. The S10 makes a great almost-100% road bike that occasionally sees a gravel road.

- Mark

 

[Davidr8]

Eric nailed my question. My apologies that my question was unclear. Definitely grateful for everyone's perspective


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[RED CAT]

The Girly is a boat anchor off road compared to an S10. Light years apart. I;ve owned both. The Triumph terrified me on gravel. The S10 is a stable bullet.