Spoke Broke Swing Arm Damaged

[trikepilot]

Dose this qualify as "damage"?

What "this" do you refer to? No pic posted.

 

[scott123007]

What "this" do you refer to? No pic posted.

Go back to the end of page 1 and you'll find your pic.

 

[20valves]

Long history of spoke failures on the Tenere.

Um, actually not. Some perhaps, but "long history" is WAY overstating it.

 

[Don in Lodi]

Here are a couple of pics of the damaged swing arm. The wheel is also pretty messed up. The dealer will be asking for "good will"
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??? :'( Wholey Cow! Mine went tick tick a couple times backing out of the garage, I eventually even found the nipple in the driveway. Wind noise, helmet, maybe ear plugs, having one released to flail around at speed... looks like somebody went after you with a chain saw.

 

[Brick]

Ouch! I'm gonna go check mine now. However I did put zip tyes on them when I got this 2014 ES.

 

[shrekonwheels]

Zip tie the spokes on a street bike? Seriously?
I have a new 12 and I would never think to do this. Although it IS a very good idea! Every time I check the air pressure I spin the tire to listen/feel for a loose spoke. That's all I expect I need to do. If Yamaha expects more then I may need to rethink my purchase of this machine.
If they cant design a wheel where the spokes stay captive and/or dont break then they need another vocation and I need a different bike.
Seriously.....I have been riding dirt bikes since I was in grade school (now 51) and I have NEVER has a single spoke come loose off of countless spoked bikes.....Including a couple of GS bikes.
Good grief.....broken spokes on a STREET application.
Good luck OP and let us know how it turns out.

+1, turns out the Tenere is just another bike with faults here and there after all.

I still like it, but Pegasus it is not.

 

[OldRider]

Zip tie the spokes on a street bike? Seriously?
I have a new 12 and I would never think to do this. Although it IS a very good idea! Every time I check the air pressure I spin the tire to listen/feel for a loose spoke. That's all I expect I need to do. If Yamaha expects more then I may need to rethink my purchase of this machine.
If they cant design a wheel where the spokes stay captive and/or dont break then they need another vocation and I need a different bike.
Seriously.....I have been riding dirt bikes since I was in grade school (now 51) and I have NEVER has a single spoke come loose off of countless spoked bikes.....Including a couple of GS bikes.
Good grief.....broken spokes on a STREET application.
Good luck OP and let us know how it turns out.

Good maintenance has help save you a lot of trouble and you've been lucky. Spokes come loose and break for a lot of reasons. I've had hundreds of bikes come into the shop over the years with loose spokes and on all brands of bikes too. Dirt bikes are the most common for obvious reasons, but street bikes aren't immune to broken spokes at all.

 

[J.A.P]

Spoke with a Yamaha rep today. So far I'm boned. They told me in so many words that because I do my own maintenance they aren't covering the repairs. They also stated that the swing arm damage was no more than a scratch. Any advice or Yamaha connections would be appreciated.

 

[scott123007]

Spoke with a Yamaha rep today. So far I'm boned. They told me in so many words that because I do my own maintenance they aren't covering the repairs. They also stated that the swing arm damage was no more than a scratch. Any advice or Yamaha connections would be appreciated.

Well, you kinda had to see that coming. Anyway get a Dremel or an air grinder and use a sandpaper roll. Smooth it out with that and give it a shot of satin black paint and ypu'll never see it.

 

[chr1s]

Spoke with a Yamaha rep today. So far I'm boned. They told me in so many words that because I do my own maintenance they aren't covering the repairs. They also stated that the swing arm damage was no more than a scratch. Any advice or Yamaha connections would be appreciated.

You are allowed to do your own maintenance as long as you can prove it was performed as per the maintenance schedule. Keep receipts and records etc.

 

[scott123007]

You are allowed to do your own maintenance as long as you can prove it was performed as per the maintenance schedule. Keep receipts and records etc.

I think everyone is aware of that, but "IF" you have a problem with something "YOU" supposedly performed maintenance on, there is not a snowballs chance in hell it's getting covered under warranty, unless you bring an arms length list of your qualifications to perform such work, or you have a really good relationship with your dealership. All this doing our own maintenance is fine and dandy and saves us money, but you better be someone more that a "do it your selfer" if you think you are getting warranty coverage for a failure from anything you put your hands on, or for that matter, anything related to anything you put your hands on.

 

[J.A.P]

So no repair or replacement from Yamaha. I'm thinking of replacing the swing arm. Is that to drastic a step? Should I leave it alone and just throw some paint on it? Add some weld to it and grind it down and paint it? Just looking for some opinions. Do you think the integrity of the part has been compromised to badly? Thanks a lot for the help.

 

[offcamber]

They can't deny a warranty claim if you can prove you did the recommended maintenance.....how do you prove you checked the spokes?? The only thing I can think of is keep a hand written log of when you checked them. Checking for loose spokes should not be a dealer only service item. I think there take on it is that spokes come loose like brakes wear.....its not a defect there for its not covered.

For good will the dealer might want to replace the spokes in question and shoot some paint on the swing arm....


Course that's just my opinion I could be wrong.....

 

[Random ride]

So no repair or replacement from Yamaha. I'm thinking of replacing the swing arm. Is that to drastic a step? Should I leave it alone and just throw some paint on it? Add some weld to it and grind it down and paint it? Just looking for some opinions. Do you think the integrity of the part has been compromised to badly? Thanks a lot for the help.

Is this coming from the dealership? You might get a different outcome if you contact Yamaha Customer Service directly. Be polite and plead your case. A person can get done what a dealership can't in a lot of circumstances.

 

[Kevhunts]

So no repair or replacement from Yamaha. I'm thinking of replacing the swing arm. Is that to drastic a step? Should I leave it alone and just throw some paint on it? Add some weld to it and grind it down and paint it? Just looking for some opinions. Do you think the integrity of the part has been compromised to badly? Thanks a lot for the help.

You could pull it, send it to a body shop for paint or powder coating, glue the rubber casting plug in place, then do all your pivot maintenance.

 

[JohnB]

Now I get an inch pound torque wrench and every few thousand miles check the spokes. I don't want to foul up the true of the wheel, so just set the wrench at 32 in/lb and work around the wheel stagering checks until I'm sure all are tight. I usually find one or two that move a little and that's it.

Do you loosen the ones needing adjustment a little first and then tighten or just tighten? Where did you get your wrench?

 

[DonB]

I still cant believe that broken spokes and a nicked/damaged swingarm are acceptable to the S10 owner base and not covered by mother Yamaha. Really? ???
Also seems like some enterprising individual/co out there could make a swingarm protection cover. :lamp:
I am curious if anyone has asked their dealer service desk dude exactly how this "routine maintenance" item should be completed/documented?
I will ask my dealer next time I am in there.

 

[phil Turner]

to anyone who has lost a spoke try a BMW gs1150 adventure spoke crub screw that screws into the spoke nipple and locks the nipple onto the spoke, I had some spare from an old rear wheel, tried it on the s10 and they screwed in nicely, thought it might help someone.

 

[phil Turner]

try a bmw gs1150 adventure spoke crub screw that screws into the nipple and locks onto the spoke, I have them on my s10 works great.

 

[Andylaser]

Do you have a link to these?

Or know their size? Might be cheaper from an engineering supplier.