Soupys Links

[xylo66]

Anybody fitted the raising links on the S-10 from Soupys performance?

Paid £110 / $167 for the S-10 raising links and they don't fit at all :'(

 

[Karson]

No - haven't even heard of raising links I don't think. You must be a tall drink of water to need raising links, most people want it the other way around! Sorry to hear of your bad luck, I checked out soupy's site and they don't have any pics, so I can't even help you there either...

 

[xylo66]

Hopefully Rasher will be along shortly with a pic or 2. Hope somebody else in US has tried this . Raising for extra ground clearance is often a good idea for off-road usage and not so much needed compared to touring etc.

 

[Rasher]

They seem to have got the sizes muddled up somewhere, the lock nuts are int he way until the bike is about 1 inch lower than stock, wound up to max the bike would be a handy 2 inches higher, and Soupy's sold me a kit to adjust the bike from 0 to +50mm, these would only really allow you to have it lowered 1.5 - 3 inches I would guess.

This is how they were preset, which would put the bike about an inch lower, and even like this the lock nuts catch:

As you go higher it gets worse

The only workaround would be longer Dog Bone bolts spaced with washers, assuming you could find good enough High Tensile bolts of the required length. Unless anyone wants some cheap lowering links as I just happen to have a set now

 

[la-motor]

Jaxon sells dog bones to raise/lower 1 Inch

http://www.rideonadv.com/Ride_On_Adv/Lower_Links.html

 

[Duconce]

Photo doesn't show if they bind at both ends. If they just bind at the top you could leave the locking nut off that end. It should only need to be lock nutted on one end

 

[HoebSTer]

I ran into the nut issue on Blaine's bike today. Soups didn't send him the spacers either. To lower the bike do I need a longer bone or shorter? I am not that familiar with the whole process.

 

[Blaine]

I ran into the nut issue on Blaine's bike today. Soups didn't send him the spacers either. To lower the bike do I need a longer bone or shorter? I am not that familiar with the whole process.

The instructions make reference to Spacers....clearly, the stock washers are not intended for that task....Soupy's has more than likely omitted them from the shipment, as I brought everything they sent to me....Looking at several examples online, it appears that a longer link lowers the scoot....BTW, thanks again for the help.....

 

[xylo66]

Thanks for the replies.
1) Its a " turnbuckle", so , its not possible to fix one side and adjust the other.
2) To shorten the 'dogbone', it will raise the bike and vice versa.
3) Spacers won't really work because , as Rasher explains, the high tensile bolts will need to be replaced with longer ones and then a few hefty spacers / washers ( one isn't enough - due to the turnbuckle , more likely 2 washers per side = 8 altogether)

We need to see what Soupy replies back to us . As far as we can see, this is a engineering oversight and the "raising links " will not work on a S-10 as they are.

Thanks

 

[scott123007]

Thanks for the replies.
1) Its a " turnbuckle", so , its not possible to fix one side and adjust the other.

I don't think he meant that. Because it is a turn buckle, you can remove the nut that is binding (if only one is binding) and use the other to lock everfything in place.
Why can't a little clearance be Dremmeled? The link the bones attach to looks beefy enough to survive a little material removal, if necessary?

 

[xylo66]

I don't think he meant that. Because it is a turn buckle, you can remove the nut that is binding (if only one is binding) and use the other to lock everfything in place.
Why can't a little clearance be Dremmeled? The link the bones attach to looks beefy enough to survive a little material removal, if necessary?

Take my word - both Rasher and I have looked closely at the problem ! The turn-buckle and nut are too close as per the pics and there is NO clearance there at all. And it def can't be dremelled !! - this is def not a area to be messed with never mind weaken anything structurally engineered to handle the suspension!!

As far as I can see, the only solution is for longer high tensile bolts with more spacers added to give more clearance. However, I don't know the tensile strength of these 2 bolts ( I've checked the manual ) - the DIN and grade would be useful.
Nevertheless, you pay and expect the development to have been done already and checked for the S-10 and shouldn't now have to retro-fit extra kit !!

cheers

 

[EricV]

Question, can you remove the adjustable dogbones, adjust them to the length you want, then re-install them w/o them having binding issues with the nuts? I realize this is more of a pain than just breaking the lock nuts loose on the bike and turning the turnbuckle nut, but it would possibly still put you where you need to be.

 

[xylo66]

Hi EricV,
We have already tried this.
If you replace the dogbones with Soupy's and extend the turnbuckle to clear , it drops the bike too low. There isn't much slack anyways.

One can purchase 2 types of links - one that raise or lower the bike ( in addition to the seat settings, of course ). These links are for raising the bike with higher ground clearance; which means adjusting the dogbones closer together. This cannot be done due to the issues listed.

Hope this helps.

Thanks

 

[Rasher]

Thanks for the input guys, I think we have been around the most obvious solutions.

Removing the nut at one end is a good thought - except it does catch (although not quite as badly) at the linkage end, and I too would not want to start taking a dremmel to the swingarm, although it probably could lose some metal without failing I don't fancy trying to guess what may, or may not be risky.

I think the main problem is just how short the stock dog bones are, one nut at one end would maybe work - but only if the threaded sections were offset (i.e. one side longer) Extra spacers as mentioned would need to be 2 thick washers at each side, and require new longer fixing bolts.

I think as lowering links to give something like 1.5" - 3.0 Inch drop they would be perfect, hoping Soupy's will come back with something, either refund or supply of the extra bits to get them fitted, otherwise someone is gonna be getting a great deal on some discounted lowering links subsidised by my good self

Not gonna moan about Soupy's (yet) as they have probably only just got the E-Mail taking into account the time difference and I am sure it was not a deliberate ploy to flog us something that would not work, but a genuine oversight, the links actually look really well made.