Sold: 2017 ES Tenere - 8010 miles - $9,200

Conflubmw

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I don't know why he would need to retain the license plate. But, I also don't know OK rules. Texas does not allow plate transfer either. . . . unless it's a personalized plate that's issued to a person rather than a vehicle. Maybe leave the current plate mounted, until you get home, and registered in MA. Then, mail it back to him. Good luck.
Oklahoma has a new policy, anything to save a buck?, to transfer the plate to a newer vehicle. When registering the Tenere’s replacement, i was requested/asked could we use the same number. Not being a ‘man of the world’ I didn't know how it would bite me in the end. Point to note: the bike does not have a tag. Probably saved member fizzer a lot of grief.
 

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Oklahoma has a new policy, anything to save a buck?, to transfer the plate to a newer vehicle. When registering the Tenere’s replacement, i was requested/asked could we use the same number. Not being a ‘man of the world’ I didn't know how it would bite me in the end. Point to note: the bike does not have a tag. Probably saved member fizzer a lot of grief.
I hate single digit typing. I ment to say, I could have saved fizzer a lot of grief.
 

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I pondered the images of the bike I posted. The tail image showing those wimpy, home made marker lights on the Bumot luggage, there is no tag. I had to look to remember. However, it is common practice to hide or blur out the plate so others can’t determine the number. Perhaps viewers thought I removed it for the same reason. It is on public display on the road, so to me to hide it seems silly. Now I’ll let those in the know respond.
 

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“I’ll just re-tag the Tenere” Nope, I can’t do that, according to the tag agency. If a tag is removed from a bike with intent to sell, I can’t re-tag it. It sounded so simple.
 

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Did the agency give you any advise on how to conduct the sale. . . . without anybody going to jail?
 

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Fizzer told me he talked to the same lady I did at our local Tag Agency. They basically said the same thing, a Bill of Sale, Signed over Title, Proof of Insurance. If you remain sane on the roadways, the police have no reason to pull you over. Don't know if he is going to pull a tag from one of his bikes and bring it with him to blend into the traffic. Thanks for keeping in touch.

Oh yes, it looks like everything is going to be completed to agreement of both parties. Once he is on the road, I'll change this long running status.
 

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Fizzer told me he talked to the same lady I did at our local Tag Agency. They basically said the same thing, a Bill of Sale, Signed over Title, Proof of Insurance. If you remain sane on the roadways, the police have no reason to pull you over. Don't know if he is going to pull a tag from one of his bikes and bring it with him to blend into the traffic. Thanks for keeping in touch.

Oh yes, it looks like everything is going to be completed to agreement of both parties. Once he is on the road, I'll change this long running status.
Yup... The plan is to use my existing bike's tag and drive sane ;)
 

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Oklahoma has a new policy, anything to save a buck?, to transfer the plate to a newer vehicle. When registering the Tenere’s replacement, i was requested/asked could we use the same number. Not being a ‘man of the world’ I didn't know how it would bite me in the end. Point to note: the bike does not have a tag. Probably saved member fizzer a lot of grief.
Well, Sierra1, I appear not to know Oklahoma's rules either. It was sounding like Mass and Okla were at odds regarding pre-licensing. Lots of calls to the Tag Agency. Then they turn around and ask the others there to get confirmation.
 

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Yup... The plan is to use my existing bike's tag and drive sane ;)
For the record. . . . that is not a good idea. It would be better to have no plate, and bill of sale, signed title, and proof of liability insurance. . . . than to have a plate from something else. No plate, with paper work, easy to explain honestly. Different plate equals deception. Deception not good.
 

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Sierra1 is 100% correct. Taking plates off another bike is knowingly breaking the law better to get pulled over 10 times withou plates and explain situation. Why don’t y’all just use an independent title company in Oklahoma and pay them to deal with an out of state transaction?
 

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For the record. . . . that is not a good idea. It would be better to have no plate, and bill of sale, signed title, and proof of liability insurance. . . . than to have a plate from something else. No plate, with paper work, easy to explain honestly. Different plate equals deception. Deception not good.
I would agree with you but it was said previously that in MA no plate = instant confiscation. Unless I live within a few miles of the state line, I don't think I would take that chance.
 

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Massachusetts Resident - You have 10 days from the date of purchase or acquisition of a motor vehicle, tractor, motorcycle, or trailer to register. You should register your vehicleat the local RMV branch office where you live.

I agree with riding a recently purchased bike with no registration, a recent bill of sale, signed title, and insurance is the way to go.
 

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For the record. . . . that is not a good idea. It would be better to have no plate, and bill of sale, signed title, and proof of liability insurance. . . . than to have a plate from something else. No plate, with paper work, easy to explain honestly. Different plate equals deception. Deception not good.
I wouldn't call it deception... There is no clear documentation or understanding of how to deal in this types of situation. Even the people at the registry do not know a clear answer. For the record I went twice to my state's registry and also called OK's tag agency. @Conflubmw also spoke to the Tag agency.

In fact the person at OK tag agency was the one who encouraged me to go this route. I have insurance on my current bike and also this new one in my name. I will have the registration from my bike and all necessary papers from @Conflubmw's bike too.

Riding without plates is not an option as that would invite every cop on my way back to stop me.

I am all ears for better options, but I have seen many people do it and I have done it too but on shorter distances. I am not doing anything illegal, but technically people may find it incorrect.:(
 
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If that's the option you are going to take, I would venture to say that you are going to have to take your level of explaining to another level if a cop gets behind you and runs the plate. You will also have to be careful of where you park it as a some parking control officer will yank it in a heartbeat w/ the wrong tag (towing cars is the highlight of their day). I know you think having no plate is an invite to get pulled over, but it's not like you're riding a clapped out GSX-R w/ no plate - it's an older guy's bike w/ luggage, not exactly the kind that stands out. As a LEO, I would run w/ no plates but have all my paperwork at the ready, just in case.
 

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Yup, no plate, and different plate, are both violations. No plate will always be the most minor of violation. Different plate can vary, depending on jurisdictions, from a ticket. . . . to a trip to jail. Spudley is right, grown ass man with all the correct paperwork, validating his story, is going to have a lot more credibility . . . . than if the stop starts with "hey, that's the wrong plate." Which, depending on what part of the country you're in, is how a lot of stolen vehicle chases start.
 

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Fizzer and I completed our transaction this morning. Unfortunately at the slowest branch of my bank. I gave him half a roll of quarters for his wife to throw into the toll basket to get out of the state going back to his home. To feel his grief with the wonderful Oklahoma weather, I mowed the front yard after he left. Now to relax in the cool until I stop sweating. The excitement of a new bike! He starts manhandling the bike down my driveway. That usually ends up with a. fallen bike and other issues. Mount the bike, balance with your feet and use the brake to control. Then, bang, he was off. So that is what the back of my, er, his bike looks like. Safe riding.
 

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I am glad that is all worked out!
My dad was in sales his entire career. He loved his job, going out and socializing. I just don't have the fortitude to do that. Fizzer was a nice as he could be, but I get stressed out prior to the sale, "If this thing goes south, this fellow traveled all the way from Mass and it's gonna be my fault". Now, who can I blame?
 
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