So much short term Tenere ownership?

[greg the pole]

Put some more foam in the seats, cheaper than a new bike ::008::

or a sargent seat, some straight rate springs. $400 bucks all in and you have it sorted.

 

[barkingllizard]

25xxxkm on mine in 1.5 yrs, and i'm not selling.

dave6 has 30xxxkm on his, and he's not selling.

camshaft, and red cat are both hovering around 20-25xxxkm, not selling.

This is just the calgary guys that I can think of.

38500kms in 1.5 years, NOT SELLING, but seriously thinking of moving away from the snowfields of Calgary to anyplace where I can ride.....

 

[greg the pole]

::006::

38500kms in 1.5 years, NOT SELLING, but seriously thinking of moving away from the snowfields of Calgary to anyplace where I can ride.....

Whoa, you got me beat. This pesky job thing gets in
The way. This weekend looks
Promising

 

[Karson]

any model-specific forum is going to lend itself to being the exception, more than the rule in most cases. if you go to a jeep forum, i bet you'll see a lot of jeeps for sale...

noticing an "up-rise" in bike for sale postings here is probably due to it being prime-time of the motorcycle season...there's times in the year where that sub-forum is deader'n a doornail.

 

[tomatocity]

some reasons...
- break-in period. they are selling before the Tenere is properly broken-in
- rattley engine sound
- windshield buffeting
- poor windshield options
- uncomfortable seat
- no option for heated seat
- no cruise control
- both the lack of good front and rear suspension
- poor ergonomics of the OEM handlebars
- hands-on gauges
- no heated grips
- very poor lighting (headlights)
- no 4-way flasher (safety)
- low frame clearance
- no ABS off switch
- lack of optional electrical connectors
- handguards that don't protect hands from the cold
- radiator heat
- poorly designed tail plate

+ but overall it is a good dependable adventure motorcycle for the money

 

[snakebitten]

Dang Tomatocity,

That's a heck of a list. But looking at it closely and giving it some thought, it dawned on me there ain't a bike on the planet you couldn't make a similar list.

And fortunately, there is nary an item on that list that I haven't addressed and therefore shortened it to almost non-existent.

For your penance, you must now make the OTHER list. The list of superlatives. The list why most Tenerista are NOT selling their bike.


Me? There currently is only one bike in the world that could someday make me switch. It's the exact same bike that Yamaha so obviously aimed at.

But the list on THAT bike has got some much tougher items to address. In fact, some that I as an owner couldn't.

Maybe someday though. Or maybe another bike shows up that beats them both.

 

[Danno]

I have to admit I am really wanting cruise control. I know I could pay $1000 and get it looks a nightmare to install. I'm not even confident about installing the longer hydraulic lines I have and a $195 quote from the dealer to do it is a bit much IMO. Of course spending over $22K on the Victory makes modding the ST look cheap.

 

[tomatocity]

Dang Tomatocity,

That's a heck of a list. But looking at it closely and giving it some thought, it dawned on me there ain't a bike on the planet you couldn't make a similar list.

And fortunately, there is nary an item on that list that I haven't addressed and therefore shortened it to almost non-existent.

For your penance, you must now make the OTHER list. The list of superlatives. The list why most Tenerista are NOT selling their bike.


Me? There currently is only one bike in the world that could someday make me switch. It's the exact same bike that Yamaha so obviously aimed at.

But the list on THAT bike has got some much tougher items to address. In fact, some that I as an owner couldn't.

Maybe someday though. Or maybe another bike shows up that beats them both.

Hey Snake don't blame it on me. The original post asked "why adventure riders were selling" and I listed things that had been discussed at length on this forum. There are more. The list of "why owners keep their Tenere" is another thread. I will say there is probably (maybe) 20 Tenere's that have been sold and all or almost all (one still available in Connecticut) of them have been purchased by other adventure riders. The Super Tenere speaks for itself. IMO it is neither the best or the worst adventure motorcycle currently available.

 

[greg the pole]

some reasons...
- break-in period. they are selling before the Tenere is properly broken-in
- rattley engine sound
- windshield buffeting
- poor windshield options
- uncomfortable seat
- no option for heated seat
- no cruise control
- both the lack of good front and rear suspension
- poor ergonomics of the OEM handlebars
- hands-on gauges
- no heated grips
- very poor lighting (headlights)
- no 4-way flasher (safety)
- low frame clearance
- no ABS off switch
- lack of optional electrical connectors
- handguards that don't protect hands from the cold
- radiator heat
- poorly designed tail plate

+ but overall it is a good dependable adventure motorcycle for the money

I would hate to see your miss list on some poorer
Bikes. Ie: klr's, vstroms and the like.
It's not perfect but my god it's close

 

[tomatocity]

I would hate to see your miss list on some poorer
Bikes. Ie: klr's, vstroms and the like.
It's not perfect but my god it's close

I am not against the Super Tenere. Again... this is not my list though items that have been thoroughly discussed on this forum. There are other items like the ECU and the restricted power in 1-2-3 and the lack of proper throttle body sync from the factory. Things like these make some adventure riders wonder why they paid $15,000 and why they sell so quickly before giving the Tenere a fair chance.

I currently own a KLR and used to own a Vstrom 1000. Haven't ridden the KLR since before purchasing the Tenere.

 

[greg the pole]

LOL
Just busting your chops Tim.

I owned a dl1000 for 55k, two KLR's (99 and a 08).

I agree with a lot of the points, but quite a few of those are owner related (fitting to the bike etc)
my mods to get the bike right (major points only were as follows)

-New rear shock ($$ well spent there)
-new linear front spring
-sargent seat (tried a corbin hated it)
-adj. windshield bracket and mra screen
-aftermarket pipe (for the go sound! ::014:
-tb sync
-usual protection items (crash bars, skid plate etc)
-luggage

But really, all the above would have to be put on to any bike. My runner up would have been about $10 more (my usa price vs canadian price) plus another $5 in accessories.
By a long shot, the best bike I have ever owned, and my go to bike everytime. The other ones feel lonely in the garage

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Crap, once again I'm doing things backwards. I ride a Tenere for a few thousand miles, then I buy another one. I always mix up that buy/sell thing.

 

[Steven Gllenn]

My worst fear is, when I die, that my wife will sell all of my motorcycles for what I told her that I paid for them.

That's what I fear with all my bikes and gear too

 

[snakebitten]

Crap, once again I'm doing things backwards. I ride a Tenere for a few thousand miles, then I buy another one. I always mix up that buy/sell thing.

Can't really blame ya. You hadn't seen the list yet. But it does kinda suck that you have double the problems the rest of us are suffering with. All those cruddy spokes.

Just kidding tomatoeman. I actually get it. But if folks really do get rid of a bike quickly for some of those reason, I doubt they will ever find the cats meow.

I'm actually ok with someone not "getting" this bike. Especially if you don't ride much. It's the polar opposite of the kind of bikes that fill your cup in 10 minutes.

 

[Dallara]

some reasons...
- break-in period. they are selling before the Tenere is properly broken-in - And That's the bike's fault?
- rattley engine sound - I don't think mine's "rattley"...
- windshield buffeting - How many bikes have good stock windshields?
- poor windshield options - WTF? CalSci, Parabellum, Givi, Cee Bailey's, Powerbronze, MRA, V-Stream, etc., etc., etc. What 2012 or 2013 brand model has more windshield options?
- uncomfortable seat - For some. For others they love it. Me, I changed mine, and got a used custom from a forum member and I'm happy.
- no option for heated seat - Sargent has one.
- no cruise control - Not a deal breaker for most...
- both the lack of good front and rear suspension - As compared to what? Most tests rate its suspension as good or better than others, especially off-road.
- poor ergonomics of the OEM handlebars - Again, for some, but not the majority, and a handlebar swap is easy. BMW, KTM, Triumph, etc. owners do it all the time.
- hands-on gauges - WTF?
- no heated grips - Gee, I thought Yamaha had those in their accessory catalog...
- very poor lighting (headlights) - As compared to what? I love my S-10 headlights... Of course, I took the time to properly adjust them.
- no 4-way flasher (safety) - Oh, PUH-LEEZE!!! You really think anybody out there is selling their Super Tenere just because it doesn't have 4-way flashers standard?
- low frame clearance - Again, as compared to what, other than perhaps a KTM?
- no ABS off switch - It doesn't need one thanks to a decent ABS system.
- lack of optional electrical connectors - WTF? It comes with one... How many does, say, a Beemer come with? And again, do you think anybody is selling one just because of that?
- handguards that don't protect hands from the cold - WTF? Again compared to what? Mine work great for that, and have done into the 20's... And I don't have heated grips.
- radiator heat - One more WTF??? It's engine heat compared to what other adventure bike?
- poorly designed tail plate - Geez! I've looked, and I haven't seen one guy selling his with the reason "It has a crappy tail plate."

+ but overall it is a good dependable adventure motorcycle for the money

Interesting list... But for the most part a bit odd considering the original question... Look at your list again and tell me how many of those have ever actually been used as a reason for someone listing their S-10 for sale.

Dallara



~

 

[tomatocity]

Crap, once again I'm doing things backwards. I ride a Tenere for a few thousand miles, then I buy another one. I always mix up that buy/sell thing.

You're special Dirt Dad ;D

 

[bruised]

probably a lot of impulse buys gone wrong coming from a ultraclassic i had to think long on how i planned to use the bike i knew the comfy ride on the ultra would be long gone. but i also knew when the pavement ends the ultra would be turning around and the tenere would keep on going,pavement is nice but you miss so much if you never go off of it.last trip to ozarks i missed a lot of places i really wanted to go because of a little muddy dirt road which the ultra does not like.so i am going to try again in a month or so on the tenere ::012::

 

[fxst78]

I love my S10, the only issue I have is the buffeting. I am slowly working through it. If I can not come up with a solution I am happy with I will sell the bike. I really hope I can find a solution!
But when I do sell I won't list it as for sale because of a woeful windscreen and buffeting that leaves me with a sore neck for days!


Sent with a leaf using a pointy stick.

 

[Rasher]

Some people just change bikes a lot, either for specific reasons, or just that they like to change often, or always have to have the "latest and greatest"

I think you can do a similar "Whats wrong" list for any bike, which is why I accept whatever bike I but will have compromises and things I do not like, maybe some things others rave about will make my shit list.

I could just keep swapping bikes in search of the Holy Grail of Motorcycling, GS-Tenere-Explorer-MTS-KTM-Latest GS etc. etc. I did this as a yoof with sportsbikes, now I tend to buy a bike and tweak it to suit me.

The Tenere's biggest failing for me was the restrictions which the clutch mod sort of fixes, and £350 for a re-flash is a lot cheaper than trading the bike in.

IMO very few bikes have great suspension out of the crate and I have altered the front and rear ends of my last three bikes, none were awful, but they were all a hell of a lot better with the mods (especially two-up)

I have also modified the seats on my last three bikes, changed the screen, adjusted lever / pedal positions and fitted hard luggage.

My bike now goes, stops, handles very well regardless of road and laod, is comfy and can carry me and the Mrs for thousands of miles - not gonna be selling it any time soon ::008::

 

[creggur]

I love my S10, the only issue I have is the buffeting. I am slowly working through it. If I can not come up with a solution I am happy with I will sell the bike. I really hope I can find a solution!
But when I do sell I won't list it as for sale because of a woeful windscreen and buffeting that leaves me with a sore neck for days!


Sent with a leaf using a pointy stick.

I know there are many solutions available for this, and I experienced the same thing. It felt like John Bonham was playing triplets on my head with a pair of Louisville Sluggers.

Adjustable bracket and a CalSci Shorty smoothed the turbulence and got my head above it. YMMV...