Seat tongue

[Shovelhead]

This is kinda drivin me nuts.
The rear tongue of the seat . Reckon I just don't know how it's supposed to latch in.
The plastic frame that's used to adjust seat height is right in the road of the tongue in the low position. Hard to tell if the tongue is sliding just under the plastic piece and resting within the metal receptacle or below it.

I assume it should be within the receptacle? If it slides below it, there is no support.
Where should the tongue rest in each of the high and low positions??

Thanks

 

[Shovelhead]

no takers?

 

[VPS1]

It goes under and stops the back of the seat from moving left and right. I don't think it provides any support at all.

 

[klunsford]

There is a slot that the tongue fits in. Sometimes it is hard to hit when putting the seat back on. I struggle sometimes when putting mine back on, but it looks like a little metal box with the face open.

 

[Shovelhead]

yes, I've always figured the tongue goes in the metal slot. What's strange to me is that slot is at least 3 times the thickness of the tongue and it appears you can miss the slot and stab the tongue under it and still latch the seat in place. ??
Questions are where the tongue rests in low and high?
I guess it just rides in there and all the support is on the rubber bumpers to the plastic thang.
New ballgame for me, never had a motorcycle with an adjustable seat.

I wouldn't have given it much thought until I started jackin with different ways to adjust the seat with the rubbers and such.

Has anybody cut the plastic cross piece out the way of the slot?

 

[Shovelhead]

It goes under and stops the back of the seat from moving left and right. I don't think it provides any support at all.

That's how I see it as well.

 

[racer1735]

Correct in that the tongue just slots in the opening. Doesn't provide any support at all, just prevents lateral movement. The weight of the seat is supported by the rubber bumpers. And, if you don't get it into the slot, you'll have a whale of a time getting the metal bar at the front to fit into the locking receptacle.

 

[Boondocker]

I have to open the latch with the key when replacing the seat. Can't be lazy and just slam the seat down.
I fashioned a knob for the seat latch because I didn't like using the ignition key. Sorry, no pictures.
I made a copy of the key and cut it down to fit in a little knob. The key is too short to fit in the ignition, so it's not a theft device. It's stuck in the seat latch keyhole and to the knob. Hasn't come loose in 40K miles of riding and works a treat.

 

[moon]

Seat tongue? Intriguing. Anywho, I also turn the latch with the key. The seat drops obediently into
place.

 

[racer1735]

I believe The OP is referring to the plastic lip at the back of the seat

 

[Shovelhead]

So, if we determined the tongue receptacle is only to keep the seat from moving laterally, then why are folks so concerned about installing another short rubber bumper on the tongue or the receptacle per the "seat mod" sticky. That tells me it's to take up the slack in that giant azz receptacle. Read that thread and you'll see what I'm getting at. There's also a difference in where you "shim" the tongue or receptacle depending on what position you run the seat in.

I know it ain't that critical and I can hang with what I got but the design don't add up to me. I've never seen a "tongue", "tang", or "tab" on any thing that does not fit snug in its intended location.

And.....it's been hotter than hot down here, been a prisoner to my J O B and have not been able to ride much. So I stroll around the shop looking at my bikes and come up with strange thoughts.

Speaking of never seeing a tang or tab fit snug in its receptacle,,,,,,,there was this gal years ago and I'm tellin ya..........we'll never mind.
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Thanks for y'all's input.

 

[barkingllizard]

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Has anybody cut the plastic cross piece out the way of the slot?

there should be no cutting on this...
I can't picture what is in the way, even looking at my own ST.....

 

[Tyke]

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there should be no cutting on this...
I can't picture what is in the way, even looking at my own ST.....

Me neither :-\

 

[Shovelhead]

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there should be no cutting on this...
I can't picture what is in the way, even looking at my own ST.....

I'm at work today, I'll take a photo tonight.

 

[Shovelhead]

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there should be no cutting on this...
I can't picture what is in the way, even looking at my own ST.....

 

[VPS1]

The tray looks to be in the "low seat" position, so the tongue goes in that lower section. If you put the tray in the "upper seat" position, it would block the lower and open the upper area.

 

[Shovelhead]

The tray looks to be in the "low seat" position, so the tongue goes in that lower section. If you put the tray in the "upper seat" position, it would block the lower and open the upper area.

correct, it's in the low position, but what exactly are you calling the "lower section". I see the metal receptacle as only one section, and I also see the plastic piece to be dead nuts center of the receptacle and in the way.
In the high position that plastic cross piece never comes in to play.

from my original post -------

This is kinda drivin me nuts.
The rear tongue of the seat . Reckon I just don't know how it's supposed to latch in.
The plastic frame that's used to adjust seat height is right in the road of the tongue in the low position. Hard to tell if the tongue is sliding just under the plastic piece and resting within the metal receptacle or below it.

I assume it should be within the receptacle? If it slides below it, there is no support.
Where should the tongue rest in each of the high and low positions??

Thanks

 

[barkingllizard]

correct, it's in the low position, but what exactly are you calling the "lower section".

hope this helps.....

 

[Shovelhead]

Well, your picture isn't showing up on this computer.

Last night I got a flashlight and looked inside that receptacle. I was wrong in thinking that it was one big square opening. There's a difference in the casting on the inside of that sucker concerning the depth.
If you were to run your finger inside there just underneath the top edge, there's a step to prevent the seat tab from inserting the full depth(to the back of the receptacle).
If you run your finger inside there along the bottom edge it's open the full depth of the receptacle.

Maybe this is what some are referring the tab position as being in the low or high position and what the Manual refers to as "position A" & "position B"......... ?

 

[barkingllizard]

Well, your picture isn't showing up on this computer.

very odd... try here http://www.mobypicture.com/user/barkingllizard/view/18403320/sizes/full .....