Got to cleaning up on my 12 model last Saturday. I have heard of some of us having some rusty spokes, so I've been keeping an eye on them. Got a pretty good amout of surface rust coming thru. The question is, has yamaha warranted any spokes for this problem. Still under warranty. I've had for 13 mouths 18000 miles. Thanks
rusty spokes ???????
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CDMartin884
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Yamaha warrantied mine, sent out a new set, and paid tech's labor.
You are going to get the same spokes again, sorry , just that way.
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You are going to get the same spokes again, sorry , just that way.
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Stainless is risky with these rims. At least they have been blamed for damaging (destroying) a healthy rim that was under load.
Theory is you need the metallurgy to match between the two objects. (spoke-rim). Stainless spoke wouldn't "give", so rim let go.
I got over the cruddy spoke disease. I embrace them.
Theory is you need the metallurgy to match between the two objects. (spoke-rim). Stainless spoke wouldn't "give", so rim let go.
I got over the cruddy spoke disease. I embrace them.
Yes in a manner of speaking. my 2010 1st Ed had its spokes (and hubs I suspect) replaced at the end of warrenty for corrosion of the spokes , I think they replaced the hubs as they weren't faded like the final drive pumpkin was, probably to save grief with seized spoke nipples (for all I know they may have swapped out the entire wheel?).
As already mentioned Yamaha haven't updated the spokes they are still the same and will corrode at the slightest sign of salty damp air. Best prevention is to wax them with a corrosion block like acf50/similar (not the liquid) . I say don't use the ACF50 liquid as it centrifuges off and gets on your tyres which could lead to dodgy handling characteristics .
As already mentioned Yamaha haven't updated the spokes they are still the same and will corrode at the slightest sign of salty damp air. Best prevention is to wax them with a corrosion block like acf50/similar (not the liquid) . I say don't use the ACF50 liquid as it centrifuges off and gets on your tyres which could lead to dodgy handling characteristics .
If I wasn't going to keep this bike forever I probably won't worry about it. Great bike all the way around. This is my first yamaha. So far I've had one seal replaced under warranty and now in process with the spokes. They seem to stand behind there bikes, thats the way to get me to buy another yamaha.
Doug44
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Yes my 13 wasn't 3 months old and my spokes on the rear, a lot of the fasteners, all turned nasty. Banjo bolts on the front brake lines axle nuts and bolts on the front turned a nasty grey-blue. My dealer took pictures submitted them to Yamaha and they refused to do anything. I called Yamaha in Calif and talked to them myself and they referred me back to my local dealer. I went back to my dealer who was doing all they could for me even let me listen in on the phone while they talked to the factory people at Yamaha in Calif and Yamaha still wouldn't say yea or nay. Bottom line my bike is now 15 months old nothing has ever been done. I know and am not questioning others here that Yamaha has replaced theirs. Bottom line all these spokes on the Tenere and a lot of the fasteners on the brake calipers axle nuts etc are POS and are going to tarnish and rust. I just decided to suck it up, and accept it I am not going to let this ruin my ownership on a otherwise pretty much perfect bike for me. I would like to say YMMV but it won't these spokes and fasteners are a problem. The one thing that is constant with Jap bikes is they are pretty much cookie cutter machines. iE they will all have pretty much the same problems if a model has a weird problem all will have that same disease in that model . Even if you get Yamaha to replace the spokes you then have the problem of getting a decent tech at the dealership that knows how to lace these wheels. Get them tighten true and straight it just isn't a good thing. Sort of like there is not a good answer for this thing. I don't think the spokes are going to rust and fail or break because of this corrosion I just keep an (.)(.) on mine make sure they stay tight and keep enjoying my ST.dardas said:
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Kelvininin
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Any galvanized anything that is exposed to a chloride based deicer, is going to begin to corrode and look like crap. It is however only going to form an oxide later on the zinc and stop. That is unless the zinc layer is compromised, and the carbon steel beneath it, is exposed, then it will rust and more or less never stop.
With the exception of the Tenere, most recent motorcycle I have owned don't have many exposed galvanized bits, for this reason.
With the exception of the Tenere, most recent motorcycle I have owned don't have many exposed galvanized bits, for this reason.
Rainer
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2,5 years old; 54.000 km (drive more or less the whole year)
Water, Soap and liquid wax
I found some hints in the internet, to remove rust with Coca Cola in combination with aluminium foil.
It works with chrom, bur our spokes are galvanised.
Water, Soap and liquid wax
I found some hints in the internet, to remove rust with Coca Cola in combination with aluminium foil.
It works with chrom, bur our spokes are galvanised.
Kelvininin
New Member
Coca Cola contains acetic and carbonic acid both weak acids. Acid is needed to chemically remove rust but it usually take some thing stronger in the nitric or fluoric flavors, both are rather unpleasant to work with. As a general rule of thumb acid and zinc don't mix all that well. I would recommend zero aught steel whoop and a metal polish. After that toss a coat of wax or polish on the spokes from time to time.
Like was mentioned above - the galvanization might corrode, but it will end up being a protective barrier against further corrosion. Remove it, and it'll only further corrode over and over. If you can deal with the spokes being dull in appearance, just keep on keeping on.
Karson, you convinced me. So I can stop polishing and waxing my spokes.
Ha!
I saw very early on they were destined to look like dirt bike spokes. I obliged.
Ha!
I saw very early on they were destined to look like dirt bike spokes. I obliged.
I'm a clean bike nut. Can't help it, I view it as part of caring for and maintaining the machine. Plus, I enjoy the quiet, mindless busywork of tinkering with the bike...and since I have limited mechanical ability, my tinkering is limited to basic maintenance, simple Farkle installs, and cleaning the bike.
Even I've been able to accept the spokes for what they are, and just let it go - if I can do it, anyone can. Karson has really made me feel better about this as, not cleaning the spokes, is actually protecting the spokes. I'm just calling them Matte Spokes, and, as the man said, "keeping on."
Thanks, Karson!
Even I've been able to accept the spokes for what they are, and just let it go - if I can do it, anyone can. Karson has really made me feel better about this as, not cleaning the spokes, is actually protecting the spokes. I'm just calling them Matte Spokes, and, as the man said, "keeping on."
Thanks, Karson!
Mzee
Active Member
Won't normal metal polish do the job?